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Posted by MinsK on Jun-18-2004 08:31:

Question Is Trance really established in your country?

Hello everybody !!

I would like to know how is establish Trance music in your country?

So, i'll start !
In France there is almost none club which diffuse only Trance music
And there is only one national radio (not small regional radio) which diffuse Trance: ContactFM
But it doesn't diffuse real Trance

So, in France Trance is not implanted it still perceived like "BOOM BOOM" music !!! But I think it's because people don't know Trance music

I wish it will progress in the future! And I think that Benassi Bros songs (like illusion or rumenian which tends to Trance)will bring closer people to Trance music.

Thx for your answers


Posted by Nautilus on Jun-18-2004 09:01:

Bonjour mon ami !

Well, here in the States Trance is still pretty much an underground thing. You'll find most EDM clubs only in the major cities and trance tracks are almost never played on the radio or TV; except for those weekend Midnight to Two shows.
So while not established EDM does have its niche in the states, for which I'm very greatful.

See you USTAs in San Francisco in October!


Posted by ga11agher on Jun-18-2004 09:09:

don't think trance is truly 'established' anywhere - sure here in the uk we get the diluted radio friendly trance played on occasion. But for the real trance you gotta listen to the specialist shows and visit the clubs where you have to pay over the odds for tickets!


Posted by tranceloverasia on Jun-18-2004 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by ga11agher
don't think trance is truly 'established' anywhere - sure here in the uk we get the diluted radio friendly trance played on occasion. But for the real trance you gotta listen to the specialist shows and visit the clubs where you have to pay over the odds for tickets!


true true. I think that this particular genre is not very widely known in my country........ even to find good trance compilations you have to search and search the streets, and when you find it it costs a bomb!! Mostly what you can get here is cheese ( eww) , just think floorfilla, old classic reworks etc.. but popular dance albums like dj tiesto just be and AVB state of trance is available here. Radio wise it's impossible to hear trance... I only know one local radio station that plays dance music 2 hours a day on weekdays and most of the time house music and drum and bass is on only.. not to say it's a bad thing, but trance has very little coverage here, most of the clubs play prog house and R&B stuff, but i do think that that are clubs out there that play trance. tell me what you think


Posted by wippet on Jun-18-2004 10:28:

in panama its not established very strongly..
we do have some small lounges over the city that only play EDM, and we do get some really good gigs coming our way from time to time (and all get packed with ppl). For buying the music, well its almost imposible of get good and faily new stuff.

I think that this type of music has always been something undergound. A big probem for EDM to become more 'established' like rock and pop is the way things are handled with the way the music is played (distribution and copyrights for the tracks)..

but i don't really know at what im going with this, my stoned mind has to go to sleepp..


Posted by Eye-Q on Jun-18-2004 10:33:

In Autria.....
Not at all. I wrote elsewhere, that trance nearly is a swear word Because of such shit like Scooter, Floorfilla, Gigi Dagostino,... Ppl don't differ between them and "trance"


Posted by George Smiley on Jun-18-2004 10:39:

quote:
Originally posted by ga11agher
don't think trance is truly 'established' anywhere - sure here in the uk we get the diluted radio friendly trance played on occasion. But for the real trance you gotta listen to the specialist shows and visit the clubs where you have to pay over the odds for tickets!

Dunno, I think trance was very well established in this country (which is why most of the 'superclubs' are all trance like Gatecrasher, GodsKitchen etc) but us British are fickle! We like what we are told to like! Trance was hugely popular around 1998-2000 then after that we were told to like funky house so no all the clubs play funky house! Obviously that is to all those people who think they are 'cool' and not to those who actually genuinely like a genre of music not just jumping on the band waggon.

I think trance was dealt two major blows in the UK - progressive trance and that old hard house hoover and horns shit.

Progressive was boring as fuck and killed Cream and the same crowd that like trance also went to hard house nights (as the two genres are closely related). Now we have a more evolved Hard House (UK Hard trance which is basically more tance than hard house) but the damage was done! The masses are now demanding funky house and hip hop! But I'm sure that will pass too...


Posted by nettwerk on Jun-18-2004 12:30:

In Portugal... NO. The only trance that has some acceptation around here is psy. The rest, is left aside. But we have some cheese, sometimes... and HOUSE. And PROG. But I have hope that the situation will return to what it was some years ago, when PvD rocked the dancefloors...


Posted by slinkyhead on Jun-18-2004 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Dunno, I think trance was very well established in this country (which is why most of the 'superclubs' are all trance like Gatecrasher, GodsKitchen etc) but us British are fickle! We like what we are told to like! Trance was hugely popular around 1998-2000 then after that we were told to like funky house so no all the clubs play funky house! Obviously that is to all those people who think they are 'cool' and not to those who actually genuinely like a genre of music not just jumping on the band waggon.

I think trance was dealt two major blows in the UK - progressive trance and that old hard house hoover and horns shit.

Progressive was boring as fuck and killed Cream and the same crowd that like trance also went to hard house nights (as the two genres are closely related). Now we have a more evolved Hard House (UK Hard trance which is basically more tance than hard house) but the damage was done! The masses are now demanding funky house and hip hop! But I'm sure that will pass too...


yep agreed. up to 2000/1 every commercial large club had a room playing dance music in its various forms. it was never really really established but u did hear it on the radios in the charts etc but now RnB and HipHop has taken over. i reckon everyone will get bored of it eventually like they did with trance in 2000/1


Posted by Tomas_P on Jun-18-2004 13:17:

Here in iceland people think that all "boom boom" music is the same and is called techno. I'm one of few that are trying to build up icelands "real" trance scene. But people look down on our efforts
becouse of the stupidity of drug users here that think that you have to listen to trance when you are poping some pills or or snorking something. The litle group i'm in makes the music do it for them and don't need drugs to listen to trance.

There have been effords to set up trance clubs over here in Reykjavik but those clubs were over-run by drug users and police officers waiting to see if anyone was using drugs. (they just could have looked at most of the people to figure that one out). Anyways it's hard to build something up , we just have to keep at it :]


Posted by ebeneezer_goode on Jun-18-2004 14:03:

I live in England and at the moment it is fairly well established, their are other genres taking over but still a trance scene. Some clubs are dedicated to it, others rarely play it but if you really want to go to a trance night you can find one.

As Tiesto said in this months Mixmag:
quote:
Lots of DJ's become big there because Britain is the capital of dance music


Posted by krivi on Jun-18-2004 14:04:

I am from SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO (ex Yugoslavia).That's all!!!
I have never seen pvd,amrin or tiesto...I have no money for travelling,country is totally fucked up.We have good techno scene,but trance no no,i am sick of that!Message for all people from uk or fraince:be happy!


Posted by Tim81 on Jun-18-2004 14:09:

All clubs, every weekend!!
Tiesto, Armin van Buuren, Sander Kleinenberg, Ferry Corsten, etcetera... all from the Netherlands!

We are a bit lucky!


Posted by krivi on Jun-18-2004 14:15:

Dunno

please stop!i'll shot myself in head with 10 bullets!


Posted by slinkyhead on Jun-18-2004 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Tim81
All clubs, every weekend!!
Tiesto, Armin van Buuren, Sander Kleinenberg, Ferry Corsten, etcetera... all from the Netherlands!

We are a bit lucky!


yeah but they always seem to be playing in ohter countries


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jun-18-2004 14:20:

NYC gets a lot of good djs weekly.


Posted by pirannia on Jun-18-2004 14:22:

Here in Romania things are moving pretty well, we had Tiesto, Digweed, Gabriel last year, James Holden and Zabiela this year. In Bucharest we have same 5-6 clubs dedicated to trance and one radio, available on the net too.

Dedicated sites too, you may have a look:

www.nextlevel.ro
www.sonicvibes.ro
www.nights.ro
www.mixed.ro

There's also a major club (kinda Amnesia) on the sea side for the tourists.

Overall, looking good.


Posted by noonboy on Jun-18-2004 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by pirannia
Here in Romania things are moving pretty well, we had Tiesto, Digweed, Gabriel last year


You had James Lavelle from U.N.K.L.E as well, according to GU026 being released. (god damn you!)

Norway's nothing in trance, though progressive dance music may start to evolve into a bigger half-underground/half-scene soon. Trance died 1,5 years ago, as 'techno' nearly became the name of all electronic music. Officialy, that is


Posted by jp on Jun-18-2004 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkySimon
I'm from the Netherlands.... enough said


We ARE trance


Posted by DJ-PANISH on Jun-18-2004 15:12:

I think here in the US there is most of the people who have never even heard of trance or EDM and when they hear it (the acltual music) they call it techno. It's really kind of annoying. alot of people also really don't know what a real DJ does. I also think if more people were exposed to it they would like it. There really needs to be more exposure.


Posted by sleepydragon on Jun-18-2004 15:17:

compared to most countrys trance is pretty well established here there r a few good nights to go to


Posted by Tranceguy1 on Jun-18-2004 16:35:

In the states ive lived in San Francisco, L.A., and Boston and all have clubs that tons of TA's visit frequently...Club 1015 in S.F., Spundae in 12 different cities in the U.S. and Avalon in Boston all have premier lineups every week.

This is the upcoming weeks of lineups at Avalon in Boston..

June 15th: Tiesto
June 18th: Max Graham
June 25: Sasha
July 2nd: Carl Cox
July 3rd: Paul Oakenfold
July 9th: Tall Paul (residency)

Not too shabby and only a 2 minute walk from my apartment

So plenty of good trance in the states...they even play it on the alternative rock and hip hop stations!


Posted by TOR on Jun-18-2004 17:23:

in Belgium it was from 1997 till about mid 2000

since then it's all been about cheesy techno and hardstyle...

it seems to be getting popular again now though.. very slowly, but still. i guess it's the Tiesto-effect..


Posted by angelicapple on Jun-18-2004 20:52:

i agree, here in belgium trance is getting more and more popular .. but it's still not well known ..
most of my friends havent heard anything of trance .. they think tiesto is techno and havent heard of artists like avb or pvd
clubs are usually r&b or techno, from time to time some sucky 'traffic' pops up but nothing good :/ .. also not a lot of big names, wish those dutchies would come over here instead of those long distance travels they make


Posted by idoru on Jun-18-2004 20:58:

It's kind of underground over here in Seattle. From what I've seen, a good majority of the scene here is Drum 'n Bass. Ti�sto, Armin, and PVD come here every-now-and-then, but not as often as other places in the States.

Tunes such as Burned with Desire and Beautiful Things are just now getting heavy air-time on the local cheese-dance stations. I haven't heard Love Comes Again, yet, but I'm expecting that in two months.


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