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Posted by malek on Jun-20-2004 22:05:

Fahrenheit 9/11 trailer

check this out!!!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions...f911_large.html


its out on the 25th of June!!!


Posted by Trancender on Jun-20-2004 22:22:

going to see it for sure.


Posted by FunKenLouis on Jun-20-2004 22:37:

funk bush bastard


Posted by Kate Manus on Jun-20-2004 23:05:

I am sooooo glad they got a distributor for this film on this side of the ocean. Can't wait to check it out.. nicely timed with U.S. elections too.


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-20-2004 23:12:

can you imagine ... the prime minister of canada is a conservative while america finally gets rid of bush , wtf this is unfair


Posted by vano on Jun-22-2004 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
can you imagine ... the prime minister of canada is a conservative while america finally gets rid of bush , wtf this is unfair

if America votes for Bush most probably the Conservative party here might win and vice versa...
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This movie should be a very interesting to watch for sure!


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-22-2004 03:24:

Don't predict yet, this will be the closest election in decades and the ones that will decide are the people are undecided 9% and the last poll was 31 to 29.

Now turning my attention to Michael Moore, I give Disney massive props for not releasing this piece of junk. Michael Moore has bothered me for years, not because he hates Bush, I could careless, it is funny how the man is a walking and talking hypocrite machine

First of all he states he wants people to have a natural dialogue about things yet he takes the forums off his site
Second of all, he goes on and on about Americans being obese and eating too much, when the man himself is 300 pounds+
Third, he calls himself the working class American, yet in his last book, he goes on and on about his richness and how he lives
Fourth, the man says he presents the truth, when all his stuff is just crafted to push his lame ignorant message.
Fifth, the man said the message is more important than profits yet turns down requests to release the film via the web ahead of time, proving that the profit is more important than the message.


I'm tired of his crap and I'm tired of him writing books and putting out movies of his tired biased crap, the man can't present one factual thing. His movie was so bad that Bill O'Reilly walked out less than halfway thru it, I mean if O'Reilly leaves a movie early, it must be bad.


Posted by RnakR on Jun-22-2004 03:36:

if this documentary can help opening eyes to people that only listen to CNN etc etc etc why are you against that ?
i red his book and i dont see any real false facts...just make a "portrait" of the bad situation ...

and when he tells us that we shouldnt elect conservative you are against to ? i guess so


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-22-2004 03:56:

Remember now, this is the man who made a film who's main premise was discredited by Richard Clarke a few weeks back that he made the decision about the bin laden family exit. There goes the main part of the movie.

He came up with this gem of late

Recycling creates an illusion of saving the planet." He said he disapproves of simply recycling without knowing where recycleables go - they might be sent to a Third World country where people work under sweatshop conditions.
http://www.arcataeye.com/top/020312top02.shtml

He recently stated in an interview (Small businesspeople are rednecks that suppress the town

-defender of the working class? I think not (sorry michael, your vail is gone)

Poor Michael Moore who is protector of the working class in America, outsourced his website to Canada. Look it up if you don't believe me

In his upcoming film, he talks to congressmen and tries to get them to send their sons to war but he mysteriously left out his oncamera interview with Mark Kennedy (Rep from Minn), who has his two sons in the Army (biased, I think so)


Posted by vano on Jun-22-2004 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Now turning my attention to Michael Moore...


HYPOCRISY is when CNN and family call Regan a hero. This guy says something you'll never hear on the news for instance. His last movie "Bowling for Columbine" is full of interesting facts and ideas such as poverty in the USA, making scapegoats out of Black Americans, NRA... He speeks about things that most of the people never thought or simply didn't know.


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-22-2004 03:59:

yes because the news usually has some ounce of truth, moore has not said a true thing yet.


Posted by malek on Jun-22-2004 04:01:

don't shoot the messanger.

the message is what counts here.


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-23-2004 00:09:

you think the message counts even if tainted?


Posted by malek on Jun-23-2004 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
you think the message counts even if tainted?


the guy is presenting some facts that he and his team researched. If you want to prove that his message is tainted, prove that his arguments are false!!!

i don't really care about micheal moore...i care about the things he portrays in his documentaries.


Posted by discojoe on Jun-23-2004 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
the guy is presenting some facts that he and his team researched. If you want to prove that his message is tainted, prove that his arguments are false!!!

i don't really care about micheal moore...i care about the things he portrays in his documentaries.


there are far more facts on cnn and you call that propaganda


Posted by RnakR on Jun-23-2004 14:16:


Come on !
CNN shows the facts they want....


Posted by malek on Jun-23-2004 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
there are far more facts on cnn and you call that propaganda


propaganda is the news that the govt wants you to hear. It can be facts, half-facts by omitting information, complete lack of coverage of something that might interest the population, etc etc.

CNN does it very well. But they're not the worst out there!


Posted by vano on Jun-23-2004 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by RnakR

Come on !
CNN shows the facts they want....

CNN shows what sells and nothing more; may be sometimes something real for 30 sec...


Posted by Az on Jun-23-2004 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance

In his upcoming film, he talks to congressmen and tries to get them to send their sons to war but he mysteriously left out his oncamera interview with Mark Kennedy (Rep from Minn), who has his two sons in the Army (biased, I think so)

erm
how on earth is that biased, it'd just make for a shit scene in the film

Moore: Why aren't your sons in the war?
Kennedy: They are
Moore: Oh

think about it for fucks sake
the forums were taken down because of the sheer level of moderation needed, I'm sure they'll be put back up soon.
So he picks up on what he wants to put across, so what? if you base your opinions solely on what he says, you're fucking moron, and vice versa. He's an extremely intelligent bloke, with a gift for entertaining his audience, whether it be his books, TV shows, or Films.

I severely doubt the guys 300lbs as well, I think you may be exagerating, he's not exactly slim, but he's hardly obese compared to some people

That recyclable thing is a very valid point, theres numerous councils in the UK being sued because they were disposing recycling bins in the same way as ordinary rubbish, and if it happens here, you can bet it happens elsewhere.

all his stuff is "crafted to push his lame ignorant message"? whats that? guns are bad and George W Bush is a moron? well fucking hell

maybe he had issues with the web ahead that were non profit orientated, like dickhead coordinators, don't always jump to conclusions.....


Posted by RnakR on Jun-23-2004 16:27:

anyway i hope he makes profit,,,,that's because of them he can make movies


Posted by j@y on Jun-23-2004 18:37:

il faut voir ca de facon critique
il faut en prendre..et en mettre de cot�
c'est des panflets..c sur que c pas objectif dutout

mais ca releve quand meme certains faits interesants
jai bien hate de le voir!


Posted by SiM Pe�Rf on Jun-23-2004 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by j@y
il faut voir ca de facon critique
il faut en prendre..et en mettre de cot�
c'est des panflets..c sur que c pas objectif dutout

mais ca releve quand meme certains faits interesants
jai bien hate de le voir!


un jay s�rieux


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-23-2004 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
erm
how on earth is that biased, it'd just make for a shit scene in the film

Moore: Why aren't your sons in the war?
Kennedy: They are
Moore: Oh

think about it for fucks sake
the forums were taken down because of the sheer level of moderation needed, I'm sure they'll be put back up soon.
So he picks up on what he wants to put across, so what? if you base your opinions solely on what he says, you're fucking moron, and vice versa. He's an extremely intelligent bloke, with a gift for entertaining his audience, whether it be his books, TV shows, or Films.

I severely doubt the guys 300lbs as well, I think you may be exagerating, he's not exactly slim, but he's hardly obese compared to some people

That recyclable thing is a very valid point, theres numerous councils in the UK being sued because they were disposing recycling bins in the same way as ordinary rubbish, and if it happens here, you can bet it happens elsewhere.

all his stuff is "crafted to push his lame ignorant message"? whats that? guns are bad and George W Bush is a moron? well fucking hell

maybe he had issues with the web ahead that were non profit orientated, like dickhead coordinators, don't always jump to conclusions.....


what a pleasure it is for me to read your posts , Mark you're more than welcome buddy in the Montreal forum


Posted by FunKenLouis on Jun-24-2004 00:00:

id wish you guys could hear the new NIC B track

called SHAME ON YOU MISTER BUSH

man the track rocks for sure

he used parts of Micheal Moore's oscar speech and turned it into a crazy deep house song

a pleasure for your ears

a beauty actualy


Posted by habsfan on Jun-24-2004 00:22:

torontotrance is a fukin moron. Moore is trying to open the eyes of the American public ; to show them something that the news won't because of governement control. He is showing America the problems with their country, both internally and with foreign policy. He is showing them why 9/11 occurred. He is showing them why there exists so much violence in their society!!! Michael Moore is doing what no other film-maker in history has done: Created a MAINSTREAM documentary opposing the current US government and releasing it in the US!!

I'm assuming that torontotrance is a dumb redneck hillbilly from the south and for that reason, I forgive him for his monumental ignorance. LEAFS SUCK!!


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