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Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 00:10:

making music

what is your biggest problem when it comes to making music.

mine is that i'm not good at song structure therefore I have thousands of unfinished tracks sitting on my PC.

Posted by Haak on Jun-21-2004 00:15:

finishing tracks

Posted by Zenchowdah on Jun-21-2004 00:15:

i think the hardest part for me would be getting used to the software. im sure that if i took the time to become accustomed to it, i would be able to use it easily. however.. i dont. so.. i cant.

Posted by Zombie0729 on Jun-21-2004 00:15:

being satisfied w/ a piece... there is always a point where i think it can be better... and it really keeps me from ever "finishing" anything...

edit: damn u guys, we finished all these posts like back to back to back... i thought i was gonna be 1st to reply for sure

Posted by Zenchowdah on Jun-21-2004 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
being satisfied w/ a piece... there is always a point where i think it can be better... and it really keeps me from every "finishing" anything...

well, i think making music is a lot like writing. most authors are rarely satisfied with what they create, and its once you become satisfied, once you become complacent that you should start worrying that your skills are declining.

ie, i imagine Oakie is very satisfied with himself right now.

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 00:21:

well you guys have made me feel better, anyways

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 00:40:

your all not gonna believe this but ive been using fruity loops for 3 years and not been satisfied with the drum beats.
This is mainly because of the fact that fruity loops provides you with the shittiest samples you've ever seen.

so anyway, after about one and a half years of using it I decided to make it easier on myself so I downloaded the fruity loops retail sound packs.

these packs contain lots and lots of drums.

I like to add FX to kicks, hihats and snares and all that because I was always paranoid that if I released an album there was the possibility that someone would say "hey! I recognize those samples!"

I know, I know, its not really anything to worry about but thats just me

so anyway, after these three years I recently got a job at a secondary college and I was talking to the music teacher there about how I am no good with drum beats because I have nothing to work with.

I was told him the reason why I dont want to use drum loops and I told him the reason why I dont like to use samples is because everybody uses free samples and people are always likely to recognize them.

I also told him how i want to buy some proper electric drums... you know, the very expensive $10,000 ones

and he said "nah nah, just use the acid samples"

So I finally gave in and I extracted lots of different kicks snares and hi-hats from acid loops.

....and SHIT!!!!!

last night I used thos samples and made the most fuckin' awesome break you've ever heard!!!!

ohhhh i'm so happy

hmmm..... now for the hard part....

....making an original tune

Posted by Tranc3 on Jun-21-2004 00:42:

Don't worry about the sampling, I recognize tons of samples in all sorts of tracks taken from sample cds I have. Sampling is everywhere, and has been ever since Hip Hop took off.

Posted by Zenchowdah on Jun-21-2004 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3

ive always wondered, man, is that you in your avatar?

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 00:56:

so i dont have to feel guilty about it then?

Posted by Zenchowdah on Jun-21-2004 00:58:

guilty? nah.

according to a number of users on this board, tiesto constantly steals from other artists. if stealing makes me like tiesto.. im gonna fuckin steal

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
guilty? nah.

cool

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:05:

im happy then...

by the way are you guys good or bad at buildups/breakdowns?

Posted by Tranc3 on Jun-21-2004 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
ive always wondered, man, is that you in your avatar?

I wish....

http://www.jamesholden.org.uk/

This probably belongs in the production studio btw.

Posted by Tranc3 on Jun-21-2004 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
so i dont have to feel guilty about it then?

Only if you steal other artist's work without their permission, but if you buy some samples or get some provided for free, usually you can do pretty much anything with them...sometimes you're required to give credit though, as in "samples taken from ______. Used with permission."

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:10:

steal other's work...

nah im just talking about drums and i dont take anything to long. just tiny things that I have named snippits

I just love those choons that have really "snippity" drum beats

Posted by Tranc3 on Jun-21-2004 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
steal other's work...

nah im just talking about drums and i dont take anything to long. just tiny things that I have named snippits

I just love those choons that have really "snippity" drum beats

Otherwise known as the "one-shot" sample

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
Otherwise known as the "one-shot" sample

you know any choons like that?

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
http://www.jamesholden.org.uk/

man i'm getting impatient waiting for an album from that guy. especially because I havent heard any of his stuff full stop.

Posted by Tranc3 on Jun-21-2004 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
you know any choons like that?

Eh? I think you got it confused. A one-shot is a sample of just one note or one hit of the instrument. So hitting the hihat once and recording it would be a one-shot sample, same with playing a single note on a flute and recording that.

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:42:

RRRR! no no no I mean choons with those sort of beats

(really chopped up drums)

Posted by Tranc3 on Jun-21-2004 01:46:

Oh...uhh, if I'm thinking of what you're thinking of, you might try looking at some 2-step/half-step stuff.

Posted by meneedit on Jun-21-2004 01:50:

2 step/half step?

Posted by Psiweaver on Jun-21-2004 01:56:

I can never seem to finish anything that i start in either fruity loops or in reason.

Posted by montie on Jun-21-2004 01:59:

you should also start recording and making your own loops

don't worry too much about getting the best quality. all you need is an SM57 (which runs about 70 bones).
to record to your computer its best to get a good sound card like an M-Audio Audiophile, but you can make do with connecting an SM57 to a DJ mixer via XLR and taking the recording out on the mixer and bringing that into your normal sound card.
theres alot of programs you can record with. what matters is the plugins you have for them. its amazing what you can do with compression, reverb, flanging, and all the FX
one way you can get a beat is just record yourself banging on a counter top. compress the hell out of the recording and then noise gate a low tone side chain so that when the beat hits, a low tone comes into the mix giving it alot of punch.
its amazing with what you can do with recorded sounds.

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