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Alright, is Rev. Sun Myung Moon a Freakin' Nut or What?
And what's worse, who are these lawmakers who were "duped" by this loon who runs the Washington Times?
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| The Rev. Moon Honored at Hill Reception Lawmakers Say They Were Misled By Charles Babington and Alan Cooperman Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, June 23, 2004; Page A01 More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be "reborn as new persons." At the March 23 ceremony in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) wore white gloves and carried a pillow holding an ornate crown that was placed on Moon's head. The Korean-born businessman and religious leader then delivered a long speech saying he was "sent to Earth . . . to save the world's six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent." Details of the ceremony -- first reported by Salon.com writer John Gorenfeld -- have prompted several lawmakers to say they were misled or duped by organizers. Their complaints prompted a Moon-affiliated Web site to remove a video of the "Crown of Peace" ceremony two days ago, but other Web sites have preserved details and photos. Moon, 85, has been controversial for years. Renowned for officiating at mass weddings, he received an 18-month prison sentence in 1982 for tax fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice. In a 1997 sermon, he likened homosexuals to "dirty dung-eating dogs." Among the more than 300 people who attended all or part of the March ceremony was Sen. Mark Dayton (D-Minn.), who now says he simply was honoring a constituent receiving a peace award and did not know Moon would be there. "We fell victim to it; we were duped," Dayton spokeswoman Chris Lisi said yesterday. Other lawmakers who attended or were listed as hosts felt the same, she said. "Everyone I talked to was furious," she said. With Minnesotans demanding to know whether Dayton is a follower of Moon, Lisi said, the senator persuaded the St. Paul Pioneer Press to write an article allowing him to reply. The event's organizers flew in nearly 100 honorees from all 50 states to receive state and national peace awards. The only "international crown of peace awards" went to Moon and his wife. Some Republicans who attended the event, including Rep. Roscoe G. Bartlett (Md.), said they did so mainly to salute the Washington Times, a conservative-leaning newspaper owned by Moon's organization. "I had no idea what would happen" regarding Moon's coronation and speech, Bartlett said yesterday. But a key organizer -- Archbishop George A. Stallings Jr., pastor of the Imani Temple, an independent African American Catholic congregation in Northeast Washington -- said Moon's prominent role should have surprised no one. He said a March 8 invitation faxed to all lawmakers stated that the "primary program sponsor" would be the "Interreligious and International Federation for World Peace (IIFWP), founded by Rev. Dr. and Mrs. Sun Myung Moon, who will also be recognized that evening for their lifelong work to promote interfaith cooperation and reconciliation." The invitation was signed by Davis and the Rev. Michael Jenkins, as co-chairmen of the IIFWP (USA). The event's co-sponsors were the Washington Times Foundation, the United Press International Foundation, the American Family Coalition, the American Clergy Leadership Conference and the Women's Federation for World Peace, according to the invitation. Stallings, a former Roman Catholic priest who was married in Moon's church, said Moon's association with those organizations is well known. "You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know that any event that is sponsored by the Washington Times . . . could involve the influence, or the potential presence, of the Reverend Moon," he said. Use of the Dirksen building requires a senator's approval. Dayton said he gave no such permission, and Stallings said the question of who did so is "shrouded in mystery." Moon has claimed to have spoken in "the spirit world" with all deceased U.S. presidents, Jesus, Moses, Mohammed and others. At the March 23 event, he said: "The founders of five great religions and many other leaders in the spirit world, including even Communist leaders such as Marx and Lenin . . . and dictators such as Hitler and Stalin, have found strength in my teachings, mended their ways and been reborn as new persons." Several Web sites quoted Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) as praising Moon at the event for "always standing up for what is right." In an interview yesterday, Cummings said, "I don't recall saying that. That may have been confused with what I was saying" about Bishop Joseph Showell, a constituent being honored. The Rev. Walter Fauntroy, a Democrat who was the District's congressional delegate for 10 years, was the event's master of ceremonies and recipient of a "National Crown of Peace" award. Also speaking at the event was Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.). Davis said in an interview that he is a lifelong Methodist who does not agree with many of Moon's religious teachings. But he praised Moon's efforts to promote world peace. Davis said that some Moon associates have donated money to his congressional campaigns, but that that has nothing to do with his support for Moon's organization. The prominent role played by Davis, Fauntroy and Stallings, among others, reflects Moon's efforts to reach out to the black community. Jenkins said many African American clergy members "have become strong allies" of Moon because they sympathize with the "mistreatment and labeling" he has faced. � 2004 The Washington Post Company http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2004Jun22.html |
pics?
Hail to the Moon King!
Good article in salon, BTW:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...n/index_np.html
Here's another:
rofl
god, can you imagine the looks on those senators' faces?
Re: Alright, is Rev. Sun Myung Moon a Freakin' Nut or What?
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 I must admit that I rarely read the Washington Times, but I really must wonder if anyone reads it seriously. And if so, don't you find it a little strange that the owner of the paper thinks of himself as the Messiah? |
Re: Re: Alright, is Rev. Sun Myung Moon a Freakin' Nut or What?
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| Originally posted by imokruok Thankfully, the owner exercises no editorial control. |
That Rev Moon is a nut. Keep him over there in Korea!
Hey, Jesus pulled it off, it's worth a try! Who knows, in 500 years he might be considered the real messiah 
Hail to the king of kings baby!
aawww our senator must have done well to please his master 
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hey, Jesus pulled it off, it's worth a try! Who knows, in 500 years he might be considered the real messiah |
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| Moon has claimed to have spoken in "the spirit world" with all deceased U.S. presidents, Jesus, Moses, Mohammed and others. |
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| Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be "reborn as new persons." |
Didn't the Rev Moon marry like the most people at once a few years back?
Want to see something spooky, check out my local gaming forums NIUCGL
If you happen to see a michael citta disaper from around chicagoland you can take a wild guess why my moonie msg that got a russian looking for guys not more then 2 hours after my post
fucking christ I'm paranoid now
The msg from the "girl" NOTE the times b/t my moonie post and this "girl looking for action" post
also note the Lady_from_Russia's registeration date
check out what they wanted me to look at #1321
think i'm going to guy buy me a gun to sleep with like that colinbin(sp?)(yeh know that moore movie)
its just like outta a army field manual i read
maybe the counter insurgency one or the psy-ops?(ah hell I can't rember)
using a "girl" to lure people out into the open to a location, is a common method of abducting people
her post on my forum
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Lady_from_Russia
n00B
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
Posts: 1
Location: Russia
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: Want to meet...
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Hello, my name is Rose.
I�m from Russia and I want to meet serious attentive man. Recently, I�ve tried the marriage agency�s services
www.MyLady.info , there I�ve placed my info into a VIP catalog (my ID number is 1321)
I�ll be very happy to receive your letter. May be it�s the mail I�m waiting
for so long! It�s the first time I use such services. Hope it�ll be the nice beginning.
Yours sincerely,
Rose.
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the shit she wrote on her link she wanted me to read
from the link she gave
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Rose ID 1321
Your letter will be delivered absolutely FREE
May be this letter will become the main in your life!
Name: Rose
City: Shymkent
Country: Kazakhstan
Age: 27
Date of birth: 1976-08-17
Height: 162 cm
Weight: 45 kg
Hair color: brown
Eyes color: brown
Marital status: Not married
Children: no
Religion: No religious
Education: university
Languages: English
I�m looking for my second half, my true love forever with whom I want to make a family, for whom family will he for
the first place. I value such qualities as sincerity, faithfulness, kindness. I can give all my love to beloved
man, all my tenderness and faithfulness. I need a good man to live together, to walk, to take care about each
other, to bring up children, to share joys and sorrows together, to meet sunrise and to see off sunset together. I
want to fill in our life with love, happiness and harmony. I have never been married, I have no children. I hope to
find my man, whom I�ll love and value and who will answered me with reciprocity, who will love me, understand me.
Age:29-45. True, reliable, attentive, responsible, intelligent, generous, fair, open, magnanimous, kind, he was
well educated, interested with good moral qualities, loves children and wants children. HIGH growth, courageous,
sporty, in the good sports form, without harmful habits, conducts a healthy way of life
Occupation: Teacher
Hobbies and interests: Nature, fen-shuy, reading classical Japanese prose, the Chinese philosophies: Lao-Zcy,
Konfuciy, cin
Motto / slogan: success
Attention to your partner's children: normal
Attention to your partner's smoking: normal
Character: I�m calm, honest, faithful, romantic, sincere, kind- hearted, tender.
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not more then2 hours after my moonie post this crap comes up, I mean you have to register a accout to post on there
so its not just random spam
I had the admin get the ip of the preson that registered lady_from_russia its 195.14.51.246 rektorgstr-gw.corbina.net
who registered "her" account right before posting
C:\WINDOWS>tracert 195.14.51.246
Tracing route to rektorgstr-gw.corbina.net [195.14.51.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 10.165.86.1
2 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 68.87.228.109
3 27 ms 11 ms 12 ms 68.87.229.245
4 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 12.118.76.5
5 13 ms 14 ms 12 ms 12.123.6.82
6 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms ggr1-p360.chail.ip.att.net [12.123.216.137]
7 57 ms 58 ms 58 ms chi-bb1-pos0-3-0.telia.net [213.248.84.69]
8 80 ms 80 ms 77 ms nyk-bb1-pos0-3-0.telia.net [213.248.80.154]
9 77 ms 76 ms 76 ms nyk-bb2-pos0-0-0.telia.net [213.248.80.134]
10 170 ms 168 ms 169 ms kbn-bb2-pos1-3-0.telia.net [213.248.64.33]
11 177 ms 178 ms 181 ms s-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.30]
12 200 ms 199 ms 198 ms mow-b2-pos6-0.telia.net [213.248.101.14]
13 199 ms 202 ms 200 ms zao-corbina-01796-mow-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.78.134]
14 201 ms 202 ms 201 ms ko-sw3-vlan1.msk.corbina.net [195.14.50.121]
15 201 ms 201 ms 200 ms rektorgstr-gw.corbina.net [195.14.51.246]
Trace complete.
according to
http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/num/domains.htm
.gw = Guinea-Bissau ? wheres that you and I both where wondering
I need to check this part again
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/African_St...issau_19846.gif
their it is in africa
(pics a little large just to have up)
'Lady_from_Russia'
mmmm they couldn't be attempting to attract me based on what they gathered about me from my handle GODLESSCOMMIE could they??
well we all know that GODLESSCOMMIES come from russia right?
after all we are the big bad americans that defeated those godless punks in the USSR! FOR THE PROHLETET!@!!!!(if only I could spell that word without finding where I wrote it down)
(dont think they quite get my handle's joke)
Religion: No religious // ?? well at least they didn't put GODLESS
or I might have noticed something was up
// not to mention no religious man thats a very asian way of screwing up english
City: Shymkent
Country: Kazakhstan // Right! then why is she transmitting from Guinea-Bissau ??
where is that you may ask
here you go south central asia bordering russia and china
sure doesn't line up with the northwest area of africa now does it?
come to think of it they choose a great place to say where "she" came from as it borders both russia and china> to explain why she dosen't look russian but still is(a monglod(is that a word?) if you will) non white russian
Languages: English // Dosen't speak anything else eh??? no russian?? nothing slovic?? no korean?
Age:29-45. // funny i tend to think of age as more mmm non continus
True, reliable, attentive, responsible, intelligent, generous, fair, open, magnanimous, kind, he was well educated, interested with good moral qualities, loves children and wants children. HIGH growth, courageous, sporty, in the good sports form, without harmful habits, conducts a healthy way of life
is their anything this chick cant do?
Occupation: Teacher // come on now be more honest 'BAIT'
Hobbies and interests: Nature, fen-shuy, reading classical Japanese prose, the Chinese philosophies: Lao-Zcy, Konfuciy, cin
those sure as fuck dont look like the hobbies of a russian
slovic eh? russian eh? more like korean
ah hell linking didn't work
so just go here to look at her pic
http://www.mylady.info/free_person.php?lang=en&id=1321
much better to be well know then secretive at this point shifts their objective from destroy to control through direct or indirect means wonder how they would try to get me in jail
I also can reject that this is someone playing a prank on me as A) I don't know anyone in .gw = Guinea-Bissau, B) this is far to elebrate a plot C) who in .gw = Guinea-Bissau would be reading my local gaming forum? more like they found it with some sort of spider or bot searching for hot words D) more paranoid then even I thought that I could stomach is that their watching for people like me(sorry again about the ego snapping in) online
"I�m looking for my second half, my true love forever with whom I want to make a family, for whom family will he for"
Yeh maybe a family of undead fucking zombies
Even the mere fact they chose a more quiet selectively targetive place(my local gaming forum) to place their bait makes me even more suspicious.
Yes I my be paranoid, but in a healthly life perserving sorta way.
Nor do I care if I make an ass of myself this situation has set off every red flag possible in my head for me being targeted by a psy-op(I'm quite relived that their so incompetent though)
(This is my current working theory if you will as to their goals.)
In addition I do belive they really didn't like me posting why white people are so pissed off at blacks at the moment. http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=192859
and where waiting for me to post someplace that was more quiet not nesccarly the topic of the moonies pissing them off so much. Maybe they where planning on using the moonies as a good cover to hide the fact that they don't want better race relations in the USA if they made me disapeer(egotisticly true true I dont much care to have any sort of ego). Hence why their cover was so god awfuly bad they figured the average layman paranoid would belive it, and not pry any further
In part by PSYOP I sorta mean this http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/a...0-8/Apph.htm#s3 (love that freedom of information act)
though I can't seem to find the stuff on spying in their or the exact passage on what I'm talking about being targeted by.
"Assist the government in providing psychological rehabilitation for returnees from the subversive insurgent movement" LOL!
my name is once again Michael Citta, if you see me drop off the face of the earth due to some 'act of nature' 'overdose' et all something went south for me, and sorry folks I want no part of getting anywhere near these sort of people
What drugs are you on man? They seem good, I want some too!
A movie I belive everyone should see, espically any Americans reading this is, Holy Mountain, The (1973) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071615/
It allows for the 'waking dream' if you like dune qoutes, but more to the point so far anyone I've shown it to seems to be put in a mediative state.
Also this movie has some interesting history, as does its director. http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky/disinfo.html some infos
http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky/ajinfo.html more infos and a interview(in english)
http://www.notcoming.com/features/d...jodorowsky.html hints at the problems caused by Allen Klein
Beatles� manager Allen Klein bought the rights to El Topo and produced The Holy Mountain � neither has been released domestically in any legal form (*El Topo was released briefly on the Red River label, and went out of print shortly thereafter).
http://www.hi-beam.net/fw/fw16/0312.html Hits the nail on the head. I do belive someone put pressure on Allen Klein not to release this video/audio LSD trip. Completely safe to use, but very very effective.
http://film.guardian.co.uk/intervie...,844764,00.html
do a google search for Alejandro Jodorowsky allen klein
Look for more yourself and ask this questions
why did his version of dune fail?
why is their no american release of the Holy Mountain?
why did one of the major finacial backers(allen klein) suddeleny get such cold feet about distribution?
*edit* perphaps they didn't want the hippies to win.. well to late for that they still lost Nam
I'm searching for a site I found earlier with Alejandro Jodorowsky speaking on his films not being released here
overview of how to find your own happiness
1) RELAX (mediate, relax the mind, rest the body)
2) FIND SOMETHING PLEASENT TO CONCENTRATE ON (music, porn, vidoegames, art, eating, Anime, Foriegn films/tv shows/news, Old movies, ESP old scifi movies/shows like from the 70s,catweasel doctor who etc, older music, non pop music(not that it kills you to listen to some but find some other music as well), find your own stupid games to play to entertain yourselves, etc)
3) GET YOUR BODY HEALTHY (exercise not to much, purge yourself of toxins, eat properly)
4) YOUR GOAL IN ALL THIS IS TO INCREASE YOUR CONCENTRATION, LET GO OF FEAR, LET GO OF HATE, (well in my case ego to but I cant be that picky with everyone eh?) clear out the shit between your ears.
to clean a mess you must destroy a mess so must you do to your self(well that sounded way to fancy but it gets the point across)
oh by the way this is kinda a prealpha even version just getting spooked so much made me want to share at least something I've figured out to others. Come to think of it they might have spotted me through my google searches for this. Oh yeh if your in the Chicagoland you can get foriegn perspectives on channel 20 WYCC, BBC News commerical free 6pm 10pm week days and I belive 10pm only on weekends, in addition to other shows like http://www.superpowertv.org/ etc. Bascilly let some foreign into you, balance out all our shite news media with some of theirs.
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 What drugs are you on man? They seem good, I want some too! |
start mocking me I deserve it, but still why wasn't the movie released? (oh and my method does work)
There's really two sides of my personality that are conflicting right now when I read over your posts, GODLESSCOMMIE, and I'm afraid the immature, irrational side is winning over. With that said, I have to ask you,
WHAT IN THE FUCK?!?!?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON?!?!?
WHAT FUCKING SENSE ARE YOU FUCKING TRYING TO MAKE?!?
GIVE ME ONE FUCKING COHERENT SENTENCE THAT SUMMARIZES WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WERE ATTEMPTING TO SAY, PLEASE GODDAMNIT!!!!!!!!
THIS FUCKING POLITICAL FORUM IS NOT INTENDED FOR YOUR DRUG-INDUCED BULLSHIT RAMBLING!!!
YOU'RE KILLIN' ME HERE. YOU ARE FUCKING BREAKING ME, PLEASE NO MORE!!!!!
Some people really tend to take spam messages too seriously.
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Some people really tend to take spam messages too seriously. |
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 I know, sorry. Just a little grumpy this mornin'. |
GIVE ME ONE FUCKING COHERENT SENTENCE THAT SUMMARIZES WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WERE ATTEMPTING TO SAY, PLEASE GODDAMNIT!!!!!!!!
Cultural assimilation is meant to be much more of a open, clear, two way street which is why the rest of the world is so pissed off at america. Now I really just want to go back to sleep, days following being very productive, and overly emotional aren't much fun.
Not like the movie aliens(cultural assimilation gone way way wrong) like america is behaving like today. Nor like the borg. Robotech would be an example the of the japs trying to make us less militant, and how they are planning to get this done(the 3 spies).
Iraq 1 and 2 are just training exercises(esay target to boost morale, test out new equipment, and get us used to losses) for what some military nut jobs belive to be an inevitable WW3, powel, our general dove, seems like someone is strong arming him. A) the mistake in numbers he gave out would get by a censor but it sure was pretty damn obivious a mistake b) that footage of him when he was speaking live, when his 'aid'-> goverment watchdog spun the camera to point at some trees he was able to get the person to yield to him on live tv, by saying their name and if i rember correctly called them his 'aid' so how could they not let him finish his talk?(course this powel thing/iraq war reasons are pretty damn paranoid by themselves) The cover for this beeing from the version I saw on fox news is that it's a standard thing for 'aids' to cutoff talks that have run to long. Also its kind a wierd that a spambot would only hit 37 different forums with different messages all geeky techy sorta places to(come to think of it they could figure I'm a geek bassed on my sig and being on a gaming forum), and considentially enough all after my post on blacks.(ug here I go again, but I'm not buzzed from watching this movie tomany times/I've got more in my gut then dropping my box of cherrios on the floor(different hieghts for different levels of hunger) and eating only what spills out no more no less and water like i did the past 2 days without sleep oh and some oatmeal and pizza/cherrycoke)
ug heres another paranoid thought
"
Hobbies and interests: Nature, fen-shuy, reading classical Japanese prose, the Chinese philosophies: Lao-Zcy, Konfuciy, cin"
--> these might not be the habbits of a russian, but they sure seem like the habbits of someone trying to emulate being a russian at the same time a buddhist(which they might have pulled from looking at my post on religion)
Education: university
Age:29-45
Age: 27
Date of birth: 1976-08-17
Occupation: Teacher
True, reliable, attentive, responsible, intelligent, generous, fair, open, magnanimous, kind, he was well educated, interested with good moral qualities, loves children and wants children. HIGH growth, courageous, sporty, in the good sports form, without harmful habits, conducts a healthy way of life
did they profile me?
arrrggg enough paranoid thoughts. going back to sleep now
Thinking more about the Japanese I belive that they have been benevolently manipulating us over the years like a true pimp. The people with the tinfoil over their heads have got it wrong they should be placing some tinfoil over their ears(one only needs to look at micheal jackson to see what happens if you go to far, you become alien(truly your self but unable to relate to others)). The goverenment is using social controls(moors goals) to keep us in line with what they want to produce. Back in the day they wanted astronaughts and smart people now they want dumb fearful hateful prideful workers/soldiers. (drones and soldier ants). When the japanese are trying to communicate with us they tend to us big breasted/thighed women, when trying to reach their own their more normaly porportioned(though not always watch Gantz for example). Watching steel angel"2" Kurumi(americanized, commerical DVD) vs steel angel kurumi(fansubed original) its pretty funny.(opps I was wrong again "2" is a whole new show I dont know if it aired in japan or not I would assume so though) THe american version swaps the little boy for a little girl that is the object of steeel angel kurumi's heart and desieres. Why did they do that? Well simply put to make the pill easier to sollow, they want us to think sexual thoughts before to many moors of our environment get ground into our heads(to the subconsious,-> double inductronation break concentration feed message to target) However such behavior in our social culture is just plain to alien. to make us become slightly more alien is the goal of the local provider(that and to make $$$ of course they might not even be thinking about providing a jap message)
wow its like a whole new show meant to target us. If you pay attention in alot of animes america's or a global army is defeated and a group of charaters defeats whatever it is through love and determenition.-> ralphxephon(sp?) the final seen is kinda likeglobal cultural assimliation happenign at once rather then over time.
speaking of which just fire questions away at me, I do not mind.
"to think I was unknowling assiting the enemy LOL!" now theirs a line not to mention all these budha etc symbols shown
-> watch comic party a friend showed it to me as I thought the japs where going to attack with a superior culture in the future(hence the reason I went into writting down how I found happiness(enlightenment... if you prefer)(the procedure for you CSCI folks/the ah gez the word has escaped me the thing with the lines and uh.. FLOWChart yeh thats it) was to combat them. it showed me they simply want us to grow up already
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