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Posted by Ian on Jun-25-2004 09:52:

For the Portugal Fans

A Point that I thought of as I was about to goto sleep last night here, I'm not in any way trying to bitch by making it too, just an interesting thought...

You had 61% posession, yet I don't remember James making too many saves than in a normal game, do you think that you didn't use the possession that well, or was it a case of the system you play (only 1 upfront for the majority) being relevant ? Just interested as to whether you think you have to create more & work the keeper more times than last night, england only had 39% yet at the end of 120 minutes we were still level, just makes me wonder obviously what you think about it

Posted by noikeee on Jun-25-2004 10:00:

the problem with portugal have always been that. We have the ball during the whole game, our midfield works great, with loads of creativity but..... when it's time to create chances we get too desperate and out of ideas apart from long shots outside of the area, or crosses for the only striker who never gets a chance with 4 defenders around. So, yes you're right, ball possession doesn't mean everything in the game. But yesterday Portugal did have a few missed chances, and a lot more shots than England

Posted by m0sh on Jun-25-2004 11:23:

england plays like shit.
i'm glad they lost
i hope czech or sweden will win the euro.

Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Jun-25-2004 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
england plays like shit.
i'm glad they lost
i hope czech or sweden will win the euro.

Yea really that adds to the topic made.

If you want to rant about how shit England is, just make a thread on it or something.

Posted by Ian on Jun-25-2004 13:24:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
the problem with portugal have always been that. We have the ball during the whole game, our midfield works great, with loads of creativity but..... when it's time to create chances we get too desperate and out of ideas apart from long shots outside of the area, or crosses for the only striker who never gets a chance with 4 defenders around. So, yes you're right, ball possession doesn't mean everything in the game. But yesterday Portugal did have a few missed chances, and a lot more shots than England

would there not be a case for losing one of the holding players like Maniche & going out for 2 upfront then ?

Posted by m0sh on Jun-25-2004 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
Yea really that adds to the topic made.

If you want to rant about how shit England is, just make a thread on it or something.

no its just such bullshit ... this threard i mean, does it even metter?
bottom line is = england played like shit

Posted by michiel on Jun-25-2004 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
no its just such bullshit ... this threard i mean, does it even metter?
bottom line is = england played like shit

word
they'll get to be the subject of songs like these more often I guess

Posted by m0sh on Jun-25-2004 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by michiel
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they'll get to be the subject of songs like these more often I guess

hahahahaha

Posted by Ian on Jun-25-2004 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
no its just such bullshit ... this threard i mean, does it even metter?
bottom line is = england played like shit

quote:
Originally posted by michiel
word
they'll get to be the subject of songs like these more often I guess

This whole thread is irrelevant to the result of the game, I don't see Israel there or Holland playing well, the point is that I wondered how portugal could dominate so much & not score more for it

Posted by m0sh on Jun-25-2004 16:10:

cuz they aint good

sweden or czech will take the euro , at least i hope so

and just somthing funny I found...I hope you can laugh aswell ian

Posted by RenderedDream on Jun-25-2004 19:18:

yeah, portugal has a few problems, just like other teams, hope our striking force will do better

Posted by isoterra on Jun-25-2004 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
no its just such bullshit ... this threard i mean, does it even metter?
bottom line is = england played like shit

Oh for fuck's sake go home. You're spouting more bullshit than any thread I've seen on here. This thread was about Portugal & their future chances.

Great job with the image too. Only about the 5th repost on this forum in the past day?

Re: Portugal, I think their main problem was getting the ball on target for most of the match. They took far more shots than England did and most of them seemed to go over/wide. I would say they needed to work on crossing more instead of making the long shots (ok they got one in during ET but they had loads more chances in normal time).

Posted by nettwerk on Jun-25-2004 23:19:

The main problem is that the other team always has something called "defense"

mmmkay, out of jokes, the main point is that, in the last decade, we got used to play with only one striker, and him against 3, 4 or more defenders doesn't have much of a chance, unless he is a phenomenon (a thing we don't have for a looooong time), and so, we gotta rely on the crossings for the area, or the plays from behind, especially when we're losing and we begin to become even more nervous. Look at the game against Greece.

(only noted later, paranoik0 has already pointed some of the stuff I mentioned. Oh well )

Posted by noikeee on Jun-26-2004 11:01:

Yeah, taking out Maniche and playing another striker could be a good idea, but somehow everybody here thinks that our team can only play good football with two defensive midfielders (because of the sucess we had with that tactic in euro2000). Anyway Maniche is already somewhat an offensive player that shoots a lot, and makes up for the hole Deco leaves in the midfield everytime he goes away from his position to try to destabilize the opponent's deffence.

Posted by evil_bastard on Jun-26-2004 15:55:

Portugal take too much time in the final third, they try to play a fast attacking game but they're not able to draw defenders out of their position to create the space for anyone running through. As we saw yesterday and throughout this tournament, they're restricted to long range efforts, crosses and trying to get free kicks. They're not making the runs for each other. C.Ronaldo for example was very energetic yesterday but he was more than matched by Ashley Cole. I never understood why he didn't switch flanks and try to get more joy out of Gary Neville. It was England's right flank where they got the space to cross for Postiga's equaliser and Ronaldo could have found a lot more room there because Neville and Beckham were more tired and ineffective than Cole and Hargreaves on the other side. Ronaldo is far more effective as a free roaming midfielder.

Portugal haven't convinced me at all in this tournament, they are one of the best teams in terms of technical ability but too often with them it's about running at defenders and then thinking about your teammates, rather than the other way round. That said, Deco has really impressed me, always looking to bring other players into the game or make that killer ball, although his cynical theatrics are bloody frustrating.