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Thread on DJ Santana's message board...please give feedback!

Ok...I am copying and pasting a thread from my best friend's message board on www.djsantana.com

As most of you know...my best friend is DJ Santana...a trance DJ here in Tampa. I would like to get your feedback because I plan on posting it back in that thread. The thread is regarding Paul's June mix. Here is the track listing:



01 - Kane - Rain Down On Me (tiesto remix)
02 - DJ Cor Fijneman ft Anita Kelsey - Healing (vocal mix)
03 - Passiva - Clouds Like Heaven (faraway project remix)
04 - Marc Dawn - Random Walk (nu nrg remix)
05 - Signum ft. Anita Kelsey - Come Around Again (extended vocal mix)
06 - True Form - Forbidden Colours (original mix)
07 - JS Ten - Elements (naxos project remix)
08 - Jono Grant vs Mike Koglin - Circuits (original mix)
09 - Cloud Nine - Transmission (g & m project remix)
10 - Matt Darey - Nocturnal Delight (sandler mix)
11 - Dumonde - Cold (original mix)
12 - Abel Ramos - Aquarius (randy katana remix)




Now here is a response from someone followed by our responses:




Airtrack

Location: United States
Posted: 25 June 2004 at 6:44am


I thought this mix was horrible. You would think a successful Dj would play what the fans wanted to hear but I guess all that is changing in the years 2000+. Not trying to bash you Santana but personally I feel you have gone downhill ever since you quit spinning breaks. I know trance is your new thing but you are running off fans that have liked you forever. Take this how you want, whether is a critique or whatever, but I personally dont like the new trance faze people are going through. Some of your older Progressive mixes were good especially the Bonus Mix but here lately Im not feeling it!


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DJ Santana
Admin Group


Posted: 25 June 2004 at 7:34am


Its amazing to me how you can listen to the bonus mix and like it and not like this mix. They are the same genre of muisc. BUT thats Ok like I always say...
You can't please em all, all the time.

Santana

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Airtrack

Location: United States
Posted: 25 June 2004 at 7:45am


Theres alot more vocals in this mix that I really dont care for. Its to trancey where as the Bonus Mix was more progressive sounding.

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trancebrat

Location: United States
Posted: 25 June 2004 at 9:34am


Hmmm...vocals makes it sound more "trancey"? That's a first. Vocals tend to take away from the feel of trance sometimes. Can't say I have ever heard someone say that vocals made something sound more trance like. I have heard vocals can make a trance song sound more like "cheese", but that's another conversation in itself. There are enough breaks DJ's in Tampa and the surrounding cities...dime a dozen if you ask me. Trance isn't his new thing...he has been spinning it for years. A successful DJ doesn't exactly spin what the crowd wants to hear...he spins the style that he wants to be defined as (as a DJ). It may seem like he is spinning what you want to hear when the truth of the matter is that you chose to be a fan because of the style that he is spinning. It just seems like he is spinning what you want to hear. It should be that fans like the DJ for what he is and stands for...not what they want him to be. If not, then you are a DJ for all the wrong reasons. Spin what you LOVE or why even bother? To please other people that wouldn't support you otherwise? Doesn't make too much sense if you ask me. If you aren't spinning what you LOVE then your heart will never be 100% into and after a while it will take its toll on you. You will always feel like something is missing.

Keep spinning what you love Paul. Your true fans will support you. I wouldn't want you to have bandwagon fans...fans that only support you when you are spinning what they want to hear and then bitch when you spin what you love. No thanks.

Keep putting out mixes like the February bonus mix and the January mix. Neither mix has vocals...they kicked ass...and they are the true definition of trance.

I am copying this entire thread and posting it on tranceaddict. I would love to see feedback from some trance fans (err...people going through a "faze") and then post it here.

NU NRG!!! :-)))))))))))))))

great mix!

screw that guy

I should post the track listing from the bonus mix so you all can get a good laugh. It is TRANCE!!! haha!

DJ Scuba-Steve


Location: United States
Posted: 25 June 2004 at 10:17am


I kinda agree with him, Santana you're a great DJ and I'll always support you whether it's trance or breaks, I'm more of a dance person so personally I do dig breaks more, But. I also love trance mostly for the vocals, I'm a vocal junkie, without vocals it just isn't complete, I can't listen to a beat go on & on and be sattisfied, on the other note, I could see where he is coming from about you losing fans cause you're a trance DJ now, cause mainly it was your cd's & mixes that got me so addicted to that type of sound, now I can't get enough of it. Trance is great music don't get me wrong, but for me it's a bit too commercial some ppl will say that about breaks also, but you honestly can't go out in a cd store & buy a breakbeat mix cause it's more underground, now you can go out and find any trance mix pretty much in any store. I really dig your breaks rmx's that you do and I luv the trance breaks you do as well. But I'm not gonna say you're losing a fan just cause you choose to be a trance DJ now that is your preference. But I will say that I miss your breaks mixes, keep doin what you do Santana! You're always #1 in my book. And when is your new record comin out I heard Mark Sanchez play a rmx of Ong Diggi Dong @ Icon when Infiniti played, is that your mix? Damn I luv it! Great job!!

Breaks will never die

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trancebrat


Location: United States
Posted: 25 June 2004 at 10:24am


haha! Breakbeat is NOT underground! I can't get away from it! Trance CDs are primarily imported...apparently because there is a demand. Tampa is just stuck in a time warp.

Tell me what trance DJ is spinning here in Tampa...other than Paul? I will give you a huge list of all the breaks DJ's...it goes on and on. Most of the vocal breaks that you love were initially trance songs. Without them you wouldn't have the breaks version.

Ahhh! Its good ta have a place to go where everyone can agree on one thing...


TRANCE RULES!

Thanks for all the good feedback. Every once in a while that guy decides he doesn't trance. Although he DL's all my mixes.

Here's the TL for the bonus mix he's refering to:

01 - Armin van Buuren ft. Airwave - Slipstream
02 - Mark Otten - Mushroom Therapy (armin van buuren remix)
03 - Envio - Touched By The Sun (airbase remix)
04 - Corderoy - Sweetest Dreams (ferry corsten remix)
05 - Mr Sam vs Tim Coltrane - The Tribute (mr sam vs fred baker 1 more day mix)
06 - Scott Bond vs Solar Stone - Naked Angel (original mix)
07 - Sun Decade - I'm Alone (ronski speed mix)
08 - Signum - Push Through (m.o.r.p.h. remix)
09 - Castaneda - Floor Control (original mix)
10 - Fictivision vs Phynn - Escape (phynn mix)
11 - Cern - The Message (southern mix)
12 - Woody Van Eyden - Unfinished Symphony (funaki remix)

This mix was put up in mid February.

Santana

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Originally posted by dj santana Ahhh! Its good ta have a place to go where everyone can agree on one thing... TRANCE RULES! Thanks for all the good feedback. Every once in a while that guy decides he doesn't trance. Although he DL's all my mixes. Here's the TL for the bonus mix he's refering to: 01 - Armin van Buuren ft. Airwave - Slipstream 02 - Mark Otten - Mushroom Therapy (armin van buuren remix) 03 - Envio - Touched By The Sun (airbase remix) 04 - Corderoy - Sweetest Dreams (ferry corsten remix) 05 - Mr Sam vs Tim Coltrane - The Tribute (mr sam vs fred baker 1 more day mix) 06 - Scott Bond vs Solar Stone - Naked Angel (original mix) 07 - Sun Decade - I'm Alone (ronski speed mix) 08 - Signum - Push Through (m.o.r.p.h. remix) 09 - Castaneda - Floor Control (original mix) 10 - Fictivision vs Phynn - Escape (phynn mix) 11 - Cern - The Message (southern mix) 12 - Woody Van Eyden - Unfinished Symphony (funaki remix) Santana

Woody Van Eyden - Unfinished Symphony (funaki remix)


I love this song! OMG! I could listen to it everday! That song owns me!

You have Fred Baker in that mix...nice!

OMG OMG OMG OMG...your friend rocks.

RANDOM WALK (NU-NRG REMIX)

that track is siiiick. He has a good playlist...that guy was a jerk off and obviously knows jack shit about music. people suck.

hehe! Everyone loves NU NRG!!!

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Originally posted by dj santana 05 - Mr Sam vs Tim Coltrane - The Tribute (mr sam vs fred baker 1 more day mix)

OMG...that track is awesome. I <3 when Mr. Sam & Fred Baker team up to produce, something good always comes out.

Naked Angel is a plus too...nice playlist all around!

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Originally posted by FallingMoon OMG...that track is awesome. I <3 when Mr. Sam & Fred Baker team up to produce, something good always comes out. Naked Angel is a plus too...nice playlist all around!

OR....when Terry Bones & Fred Baker team up! hahaha! Yes...I am biased! They are an amazing duo!

Paul...put Introspection in a mix!!! hahaha!

Oh yeah...hehe.

Mushroom Therapy owns me

I'm telling you...that whole mix is tight! Quality!

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Originally posted by trancebrat DJ Scuba-Steve Breaks will never die

Yes it will, because I will kill it.



The tracklist I saw had lots of titles by great artists/producers. Enough said.
Well done, DJ Santana. Keep 'em coming TRANCE-style. Cheers.

Anything Armin and Nu NRG is always good. Whats great is evry week theres a new tune coming out on A State of Trance. This week Markus Shulz presents Elevation - "Somewhere b/w Clear Blue and Envio remixes of "Time to Say Goodbye" I cant get enough of this music. If only there were a club in Tampa that would allow a trance night on a Friday or Saturday. WOW! That would be tha shit.

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Originally posted by dj santana Anything Armin and Nu NRG is always good. Whats great is evry week theres a new tune coming out on A State of Trance. This week Markus Shulz presents Elevation - "Somewhere b/w Clear Blue and Envio remixes of "Time to Say Goodbye" I cant get enough of this music. If only there were a club in Tampa that would allow a trance night on a Friday or Saturday. WOW! That would be tha shit.

If only...


*sigh*

ok...I am not posting anything else from that thread. Airtrack seems a little pissed off. I'll let it die...I think my point was made.


Long live TRANCE!!!

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Originally posted by trancebrat ok...I am not posting anything else from that thread. Airtrack seems a little pissed off. I'll let it die...I think my point was made. Long live TRANCE!!!

Amen.

i dont want to sound like an ignorant bastardbut who is dj sannta?

www.djsantana.com

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Originally posted by nchs09 i dont want to sound like an ignorant bastardbut who is dj sannta?

hmm.....

I've seen Mr. Santana here in Atlanta @ Riviera prolly about 4 years ago...

I've heard that name since his breaky days

Mario...u are just too new to the "scene"

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Originally posted by FallingMoon OMG...that track is awesome. I <3 when Mr. Sam & Fred Baker team up to produce, something good always comes out. Naked Angel is a plus too...nice playlist all around!

BTW...just thought I would point out that it was never a "team up" in the way that one might think. Fred Baker is the person behind all of the Mr. Sam productions. That is all his work...his creations. Need to give credit where credit is due. Yes...once again...I am biased.

LOL!!!

whahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa omg. i just fall off the chair

btw,,, do you know Fred?

fred is great!!!!!!!!! deserves so much more recognition for all his work. too sad sam ripped him off. the cockbag!

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Originally posted by arturob LOL!!! whahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa omg. i just fall off the chair btw,,, do you know Fred? fred is great!!!!!!!!! deserves so much more recognition for all his work. too sad sam ripped him off. the cockbag!

Yes...indeed...it is very unfortunate.

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