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Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 16:31:

what a dull eurocup

with all the major teams gone (and the mickey mouse teams still alive), am I the only one not enjoying it as much?


Posted by Blik on Jun-26-2004 16:33:

Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by malek
with all the major teams gone (and the mickey mouse teams still alive), am I the only one not enjoying it as much?


Maybe some people have to realize that it isn't Germany, Italy and France who is running the show in Europa, nowadays there are other teams who are running the show.


Posted by chesco on Jun-26-2004 16:42:

Re: Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
Maybe some people have to realize that it isn't Germany, Italy and France who is running the show in Europa, nowadays there are other teams who are running the show.


I think that was evident in world cup 02 with the likes of turkey and south korea etc doing well.

What the great teams of old have to realise is that while they were covering themselves in glory over past wc and ec wins other teams like sweden, greece and latvia were building up strong teams.

the world is a much more level playing field now and until the big names reealise that and learn to work harder they will continue to get embarrased by the "smaller nations".


Posted by noikeee on Jun-26-2004 16:47:

it hasn't become "dull" but i'm a bit worried about the overall success of the cup now. considering the big teams to be a group of 6 including england, france, italy, germany, holland and spain, only holland is in competition (and could be eliminated today). yeah, portugal and czech republic became fans' favourites the last few years, but we surely are 'smaller' than those 6.

a probable reason about what is behind this is the huge number of matches that players do in the whole season, in the biggest clubs. that was more than clear the last world cup.

this is also very comparable to this year's champions league, which obviously doesn't have to do with physical aspects, porto and monaco did as much or more games than the other big teams. dunno exactly what's going on


Posted by Fundamental on Jun-26-2004 16:49:

Personally I think the tournament has been fantastic so far. There have been so many great exciting matches - all worth watching for one reason or another. As a neutral spectator it's been fantastic!


Posted by TranceGiant on Jun-26-2004 17:12:

If a dj plays fantastic trance then it still blows me away, despite the fact that his name is not tiesto, pvd or armin.....


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-26-2004 17:14:

i think teams with too many stars in it may be too litle motivated. which makes them bad.

i don't mind at all they are out, like france, they played really shitty fotball, not interesting at all this cup.


Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
If a dj plays fantastic trance then it still blows me away, despite the fact that his name is not tiesto, pvd or armin.....


but matter of fact, there hasn't been that many good games played, from about 30 games played so far or so, i can honestly say there's maybe 5 or 6 games that showed a good competition level.

Thats bad in this kind of major tournament.


Posted by noikeee on Jun-26-2004 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
but matter of fact, there hasn't been that many good games played, from about 30 games played so far or so, i can honestly say there's maybe 5 or 6 games that showed a good competition level.

Thats bad in this kind of major tournament.


i think it was more like 5 or 6 matches of an absolutely awesome level, 5 or 6 of bad quality, and the rest of a good level

compared to wc2002, i think it has been more spectacular and fun to watch. i remembered most of the games two years ago being disappointing, probably the worst tournament i've seen in terms of excitingness.

i also think you're just a bit frustrated with the tournament because the teams you support are out. be a little less biased, and enjoy football.


Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
i think it was more like 5 or 6 matches of an absolutely awesome level, 5 or 6 of bad quality, and the rest of a good level

compared to wc2002, i think it has been more spectacular and fun to watch. i remembered most of the games two years ago being disappointing, probably the worst tournament i've seen in terms of excitingness.

i also think you're just a bit frustrated with the tournament because the teams you support are out. be a little less biased, and enjoy football.


hehe you are a bit biased too because your team did good so far...

i am bit old fashioned i guess, i prefer seeing matches involving the big teams, much more exciting than let say a final involving Greece and Sweden or something like that.


Posted by Stassi on Jun-26-2004 17:52:

Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by malek
with all the major teams gone (and the mickey mouse teams still alive), am I the only one not enjoying it as much?

This is great, Greece beat France how can you call that dull!


Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 18:05:

Re: Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
This is great, Greece beat France how can you call that dull!


well the game was dull.


Posted by evil_bastard on Jun-26-2004 18:07:

I think this has been an excellent tournament full of controversy and excitement.

I expect it to continue in that vein but it does concern me that all the teams dropping out could leave us with a poor final. The 'smaller' teams are capable of producing just as exciting games, but tend not to. I mean, we all love a real clash of the titans in the final.


Posted by noikeee on Jun-26-2004 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
hehe you are a bit biased too because your team did good so far...


well, maybe just a bit


Posted by Switch on Jun-26-2004 18:24:

Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by malek
with all the major teams gone (and the mickey mouse teams still alive), am I the only one not enjoying it as much?


like Germany, Spain, Italy, and France showed awesome gameplay this eurocup


Posted by isoterra on Jun-26-2004 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
hehe you are a bit biased too because your team did good so far...

i am bit old fashioned i guess, i prefer seeing matches involving the big teams, much more exciting than let say a final involving Greece and Sweden or something like that.


Well the 'big teams', to be fair haven't performed that well. I think it's great that the underdogs have been outplaying them, and it should be interesting when two different teams end up in the final


Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 22:00:

Re: Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by Switch
like Germany, Spain, Italy, and France showed awesome gameplay this eurocup


how about the most boring game ever by holland and sweden today... man, we bought double short espresso to keep us awake....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Posted by Ian on Jun-26-2004 22:36:

if you're not getting off to the games that's your loss, there's plenty of us who are enjoying all the action, sometimes the tense games are needed, you can't have 7-7 every game, and hopefully europes best team (Czech Rep) of the last 18 months will win it, they deserve to


Posted by Jantjeuh on Jun-26-2004 22:59:

Re: what a dull eurocup

quote:
Originally posted by malek
with all the major teams gone (and the mickey mouse teams still alive), am I the only one not enjoying it as much?


So we are a mickey mouse team uh

Yeah whatever.. we got some of the world's best players but alright. And I wouldn't call the Czech Republic a mickey mouse team either.

But I've read some of your posts and it really seems you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.. Obstructing a goalkeeper a carded offense at best? roflmao.. Get a clue.


Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 23:36:

a team like Holland that hasn't qualified for the last world cup, isn't the greatest in my book.

but forget about the past, honestly, do the dutch really play that well? be honest?


Posted by Simcut on Jun-26-2004 23:38:

Thumbs down

christ malek you talk some bollocks!

this tournament has been wonderful, full of suprises, magnificent action, if it comes out on DVD I am SO buying it!.


Posted by Jantjeuh on Jun-26-2004 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
but forget about the past, honestly, do the dutch really play that well? be honest?


At least we play better than the Italians, French or Germans right now Which seem to be the non-'mickey mouse' teams according to you.

The team that plays best right now is the Czech Republic. I pray for a Holland vs. Czech Republic final Should be a very good game again hopefully.


Posted by razmataz on Jun-26-2004 23:42:

Its been a great tournament so far compared to others and Ive watched a lot of football in my life. Week in and week out really. It depends on what kind of fan you are I guess. If you are the type to tune into soccer every world and euro cup only then obviously you're hoping to see the big names.

I can't say there were many terrible games. The one that quickly comes to mind is Germany - Holland but that is only because it was a huge disappointment. You surely can't expect every game to be nail biting dramatic.

I think the lowest of tournaments was Italia 90 and back then you had England, Germany, Italy and Argentina in the semis.


Posted by Jantjeuh on Jun-26-2004 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
this tournament has been wonderful, full of suprises, magnificent action, if it comes out on DVD I am SO buying it!.


You are so damn right

And I'm not just saying this cause Holland got to the semi's.


Posted by malek on Jun-26-2004 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Jantjeuh
At least we play better than the English, French or Germans right now


you mean, you went farther than these teams, not play better.

anyhow, i hope its portugal and czech, in the final four they're the best playing teams.


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