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Posted by james sound on Jun-27-2004 17:47:

Vinyl Questions...

why the hell do pressing companies press their vinyl soo hot (loud) that the needle skips?

some of my vinyl is unplayable because the pressing is soo hot that the needle is on the "verge" of skipping 24/7.


Posted by Freak on Jun-27-2004 17:53:



In all my thousands of records ive never had that to be honest.

Is your stylus worn? Not enought weight?


Posted by james sound on Jun-27-2004 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak


In all my thousands of records ive never had that to be honest.

Is your stylus worn? Not enought weight?


are you serious!? im 100% sure my stylus isnt worn...

i set 0 point on my tonearm weight completely parallel to the platter so its like this =========. then i set the weight to 3 grams, antiskate 1.5. i got ortofon nightclub (s) and my decks are completely level also.

this mainly happens with hot pressings like yoshitoshi stuff.

i cant believe u never had this problem before...


Posted by sleepydragon on Jun-27-2004 18:46:

no ive never had this problem before and ive never known anyone else to have this problem either


Posted by Tiger777 on Jun-27-2004 19:10:

Very weird. This must have something to do with your tonearm weigt. Check it, and give it 3.5 grams and set the anti-skipping on 3 too. If the needle still skips, check your tonearm itself. Take the arm in your hand, and move it back and forth. On a good tonearm, you shouldn't be able to move the tonearm, butif you can, there is spindle on it. Give the screws a few turns until you can't move it anymore.


Posted by james sound on Jun-27-2004 19:18:

guys it is a problem with the vinyl not my tonearm...

because it only happens on certain points, the needle will wiggle ALOT before skipping.. as if the grooves were pressed too hot so it has to vibrate too hard..


Posted by Psy-T on Jun-27-2004 20:48:

never experienced that myself either.
just plain weird


Posted by Tiger777 on Jun-27-2004 21:32:

you grab your tonearm with your finger. You push it back and forth towards the turning mechanism (= there where you adjust anti-skipping). Of your tonearm follows the movement, there is something wrong. Then you need to recalibrate your tonearm. I'm pretty sure that's his problem since I had it too

It's just impossible that your needle skips from a too high volume

Check here at about half of the page: CALIBRATION:
quote:
Tonearm calibration is critical for correct playback of records. An improperly calibrated tonearm can result in skipping needles, increased record wear, decreased stylus life, and poor fidelity. Proper tonearm calibration translates into proper stylus performance and allows you to make the most of your turntable and stylus.


Posted by Freak on Jun-28-2004 13:13:

i agree
there is a limit to vinyl pressing, both amplitude wise and bass wise- becasue if you exceed that you cut through to the other side of the vinyl...lol.


Posted by tu_face on Jun-28-2004 16:19:

i have never had a record like that. and i'm pretty sure it will have something to do with the way you treat your vinyl, as opposed to pressing companies being shit at pressing, otherwise more people would have the same problem.

have you had a chisel to them recently?


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-28-2004 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i have never had a record like that. and i'm pretty sure it will have something to do with the way you treat your vinyl, as opposed to pressing companies being shit at pressing, otherwise more people would have the same problem.

have you had a chisel to them recently?


yeah..i think that is the problem...i know lots of people that treat their recs like shit...not me...mine are pretty and clean


Posted by TwoPlow on Jun-28-2004 18:25:

I have a record like that too. Completely unplayable. It's pressed pretty loud, but I don't know if that's the actual source of the problem.


Posted by Inertia on Jun-29-2004 03:52:

quote:
Originally posted by james sound
guys it is a problem with the vinyl not my tonearm...

because it only happens on certain points, the needle will wiggle ALOT before skipping.. as if the grooves were pressed too hot so it has to vibrate too hard..


you could play it on someone else's deck to see if it is infact the vinyl or your toenarm.

another possibility: perhaps your vinyl has been exposed to warping conditions?


Posted by D Dubya on Jun-29-2004 05:02:

I think Inertia's idea about warping is the most likely culprit. Never in my life have I heard of a record being pressed too loudly that it makes the needle jump. Make sure there isn't a bump in the record or that the grooves aren't warped for one reason or another. I hate to say that the pressing volume is not the case, but I can promise you that it isn't.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jun-29-2004 17:28:

I would be inclined to say that the problem is with the deck/stylus and not the vinyl especially if this happens with more than one record.

It could be badly pressed vinyl or dirty but for it to constantly be a problem I would say it's most likely something in your set up.

The thing with vinyl is that if a track is loud the groove doesn't get deeper but wider. That's why 12" are louder than old style albums as they can have wider grooves.

Cheers
Nem



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