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Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-28-2004 22:52:

lets educate the n00b, eh fellas!?!?

Recently I've become more and more interested in politics, world issues and the like. However, for the last couple of years I haven't really been keeping up with what's going on (hey I'm young, we're not supposed to care about that stuff yet). I was watching FOX News and CNN- have you guys noticed that FOX seems really... pro-bush? pro-war? and CNN to me seems... at least a little more centered on giving both sides.. Anyways I was hoping you guys could give me a little insight on the whole iraq deal. Tell me why you like/dislike bush. What is he doing in Iraq, and why is he doing it. why do you like kerry instead? What does he plan on doing with the whole war on terrorism? what do you think of our occupation of iraq? what do you think of North Korea's nuclear "threats?" Please include if you consider yourself liberal or conservative, democrat or republican (or whatever). thanks


Posted by Shakka on Jun-28-2004 23:02:

Re: lets educate the n00b, eh fellas!?!?

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
Recently I've become more and more interested in politics, world issues and the like. However, for the last couple of years I haven't really been keeping up with what's going on (hey I'm young, we're not supposed to care about that stuff yet). I was watching FOX News and CNN- have you guys noticed that FOX seems really... pro-bush? pro-war? and CNN to me seems... at least a little more centered on giving both sides.. Anyways I was hoping you guys could give me a little insight on the whole iraq deal. Tell me why you like/dislike bush. What is he doing in Iraq, and why is he doing it. why do you like kerry instead? What does he plan on doing with the whole war on terrorism? what do you think of our occupation of iraq? what do you think of North Korea's nuclear "threats?" Please include if you consider yourself liberal or conservative, democrat or republican (or whatever). thanks


A good idea would probably be to start browsing thread topics and I'm sure you'll find the answers to all of your questions and then some.

I tend to lean conservative on most issues.


Posted by emander on Jun-28-2004 23:14:

That's about as wide as the Grand Canyon. Might want to narrow the topic a little. We can work with you a little if the flamers don't try to suck the life out of you first.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-28-2004 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
A good idea would probably be to start browsing thread topics and I'm sure you'll find the answers to all of your questions and then some.


...yeah... thanks for the advice buddy. what I'm really looking for is people from both liberal and conservative sides to sum up their opinions on the war on terror. thanks again

(didn't mean to come off as an ass)


Posted by Krypton on Jun-29-2004 01:38:

bill o'reilly is an avid bush supporter.

arent both sides starting to use hitler in their political commercials??


Posted by emander on Jun-29-2004 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
...yeah... thanks for the advice buddy. what I'm really looking for is people from both liberal and conservative sides to sum up their opinions on the war on terror. thanks again

(didn't mean to come off as an ass)


Would help immensley if you stated your own opinion first. That's how it normally works. Folks against you flame, and folks for you back you up. You need to take a position. Otherwise, it's a bunch of so what.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-29-2004 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by emander
Would help immensley if you stated your own opinion first.



...good point. I guess I'm kind of a fence-sitter, that's why I want everyone's opinions. I guess I can only state what I've heard from talking with others.
So I hear that Bush is some war monger that is occupying Iraq for no reason.. I hear that Saudi Arabia (our main oil source?) is giving haven to terrorists, and they're supposed to be allies? I also heard Bush wants to continue relations with the Saudi's because he and the oil companies are profiting from them? so really bush is just corrupt?

why is it that so many countries hate us?

please feel free to correct any of the hearsay I just recited.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jun-29-2004 05:55:

Perhaps you should watch the movie Fahrenheit 911,that might help you understand teh whole situation better.


Posted by trancaholic on Jun-29-2004 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
...good point. I guess I'm kind of a fence-sitter, that's why I want everyone's opinions. I guess I can only state what I've heard from talking with others.
So I hear that Bush is some war monger that is occupying Iraq for no reason.. I hear that Saudi Arabia (our main oil source?) is giving haven to terrorists, and they're supposed to be allies? I also heard Bush wants to continue relations with the Saudi's because he and the oil companies are profiting from them? so really bush is just corrupt?

I would answer all those with "yes", but that is just my opinion.
A good place to start if you want to know other people's opinions on this would be this one

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...40&pagenumber=1

and the links/quotations within.

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
why is it that so many countries hate us?

The radical muslims hate you because you interfere with their plans to live in theocracies. The everyday Arab hates you because he's told to hate you by his religious superiors and because you support Israel.
Europeans love you, but hate your current government, for its mingling in other countries affairs, and its determination not to follow any international treaties which has a negative aspect (as well as a positive aspect) for the US.
I, as a person, cannot stand Bush, because he feels like a stupid puppet.

Hope that was OK?


Posted by Shakka on Jun-29-2004 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Perhaps you should watch the movie Fahrenheit 911,that might help you understand teh whole situation better.



Wow. Just wow.


Posted by Yoepus on Jun-29-2004 14:02:

did you say n00b?
checks the guy an't a moderator

Sooo! Shoo!



Posted by Shakka on Jun-29-2004 16:03:

Hey, where in Atlanta are you from? I know the area rather well.


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-29-2004 16:23:

Re: Re: lets educate the n00b, eh fellas!?!?

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I tend to lean conservative on most issues.


in which does you not?

anyway, i think trancaholic sumed it up rather well


Posted by igottaknow on Jun-29-2004 16:36:

Re: Re: Re: lets educate the n00b, eh fellas!?!?

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
anyway, i think trancaholic sumed it up rather well

Agreed! Btw, I'm ultra-centrist.


Posted by Shakka on Jun-29-2004 18:35:

Re: Re: Re: Re: lets educate the n00b, eh fellas!?!?

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
Agreed! Btw, I'm ultra-centrist.


And I'm Michael Moore


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-29-2004 19:18:

thanks for the input guys. Shakka I'm not actually from ATL, long story...


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Jun-29-2004 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
bill o'reilly is an avid bush supporter.


Maybe if you actually listened or watched him on a regular basis you would realize how off the mark this comment is.


Posted by Krypton on Jun-29-2004 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Maybe if you actually listened or watched him on a regular basis you would realize how off the mark this comment is.


i dunno, who would he support personally in an election?? u know its bush. o'rielly=conservative=bush


Posted by igottaknow on Jun-30-2004 01:42:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Maybe if you actually listened or watched him on a regular basis you would realize how off the mark this comment is.

You quite right he pretends to be an avid bush support, while in reality he just does it to boost his rating and become the Rush Limbaugh of Cable. I call it the "No Win Zone"


Posted by Kev K on Jul-02-2004 00:53:

As a born again aethieist who was born into protestantism who dosent vote what the F*** is stuff like this doing on a music orientated website.

I have to laugh guys. Just to let you know there is a law which was passed in the UK around ten years ago, I don't remember the exact date but I was talking about it with a fellow student last month. This law prohibits people from gathering together in a crowd (crowd being a number of people of which is not defined, only a crowd, 3 maybe lol) and listening to music without having aquired a licence and permission from whichever local authority/government to do so. This effectively outlawed what we used to call outdoor or ware house raves and what are now called "illeagal" raves. Politics should have nothing to do with music, this is the sort of thing that happens when the two mix. This is oppression and opposes democracy and freedom. Anyway I believe that one should never discuss religion or politics in a pub/public house or drinking establishment. Thats my rule, and I don't even like pubs.


Posted by emander on Jul-02-2004 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
thanks for the input guys. Shakka I'm not actually from ATL, long story...


Don't claim Atlanta as your home if you don't live there. Hell, I'm from 'Bama and damn proud of it!


Posted by igottaknow on Jul-02-2004 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by emander
Don't claim Atlanta as your home if you don't live there. Hell, I'm from 'Bama and damn proud of it!

Hey smokeape what did you get banned for?

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Posted by Lira on Jul-06-2004 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
did you say n00b?
checks the guy an't a moderator

Sooo! Shoo!


Posted by squirrelly on Jul-06-2004 18:38:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Perhaps you should watch the movie Fahrenheit 911,that might help you understand teh whole situation better.


I hope for your sake that was comment was filled to the brim with sarcasm.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jul-06-2004 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
I hope for your sake that was comment was filled to the brim with sarcasm.


I thought it was a good movie



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