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Tascam vs A&H vs Rane

OK, here's what it's come down to. What's best for trance/house/ prog/downtempo? Keep in mind I'm a complete noob, and if I\m going to drop 1000 on one of these mixers, and they're all pretty much teh same im price, I want it to be the best for me and for a long time to come.

Tascam X-9
Allen & Heath Xone 062
Rane Empath


Cheers!

IMO the 62!

never used the rane, but out of the other two id go for the 62.

the X-9 is just too damn fiddly and the Xone is just too damn nice

If you're looking for the sheer quality of sound and functional performance, the Allen&Heath mixers are your best bet.

mix and scratch: Rane Empath

Mix and filters: A&H xone62

BTW, the xone has nice filters and eqs. but no send/returns.

what are send/returns?

if you have an fx unit and a mixer without S&R you can only stick it between master out on the mixer and your amp. hence only affecting the main out signal.

send and return allows you to send each channel from the mixer to the fx unit individually and then the fx affected signal is returned to the mixer.

it basically means you can select which channel you want to put the fx on, and gives a lot more flexibility.

I would say go with Allen & Heath

right, thanks. but with all the effects the xone62 comes with, will I ever really be needing an external fx processor?

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Originally posted by Tegu right, thanks. but with all the effects the xone62 comes with, will I ever really be needing an external fx processor?

the 62 doesn't have any effects except the filters

right...

thanks for pointing that out. i am an idiot. in that case, maybe it'd make more sense if i could pick up a used empath and put the difference toward and effects processor. wonder if i'll need an effects processor though, if not, im going xone62.

You absolutely dont need f/x, especially if your still new to this. I have the Xone:62 and Im gonna learn on that, because from what I hear its not the easiest of mixers to use if your a newb. Than when I feel comfortable, Im gonna upgrade to a 464 or something else like a Urei if the funds are sufficent.

cheers vlad. i'll likely be doing the same, just depends what i can get a better deal on and find used, the empath or the xone62...

sounds like the tascam is definitely out of the picture, though?

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Originally posted by Vlad You absolutely dont need f/x, especially if your still new to this. I have the Xone:62 and Im gonna learn on that, because from what I hear its not the easiest of mixers to use if your a newb. Than when I feel comfortable, Im gonna upgrade to a 464 or something else like a Urei if the funds are sufficent.

Urei is definately the best sounding mixer i ever owned

xone's are kinda like 1200's, everyone says they are the best blah blah blah. they are fucking sweet, but out of those i would choose the tascam x9.

unless you are a big audiophile, the sound quality difference between the tascam and a&h is negligible. the x9 has a really sweet fx box, whereas the filters on the a&h, while being fun to use, are very limiting.

i have not extensively used an empath, but it was built like a tank, thats for sure.

caleb

I really don't like the tascam xs9. To me it's just too much crap that's a pain in the ass to use. Plus, i don't like the feel of it's faders. For a noob i wouldn't suggest the tascam.

This is what Ive always said, the Tascam X-9 is the Pioneer DJM500/600 on Steroids.

how come noone ever considers the vestax pmc-37 pro (my personal fav)?
its really an awesome mixer (especially if you like having the eq in faders instead of knobs)

xone 62 by far.

I'd say the Rane or the 62...I own the Empath, and love it. The Xone will do you no wrong either, so ultimately its like comparing a Porsche 911 twin turbo vs. a Ferrari F40. Both are sweet rides that will get you lots of ass so pick the one YOU want and it won't be the wrong choice.

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Originally posted by Psy-T how come noone ever considers the vestax pmc-37 pro (my personal fav)? its really an awesome mixer (especially if you like having the eq in faders instead of knobs)

I'm actually strongly considering purchasing that mixer. I'm just not sure if its worth the money over the pcv 275. I also worry about those equilizer faders. They just seem very likely to break down.

well I solved the problem. I went ahead and got an Allen & Heath Xone 92 Rotary. Wow that's fuckin overboard for my first mixer...but I got a sweat deal on it. Now I just need some Technics...

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Originally posted by beats and beeps I'm actually strongly considering purchasing that mixer. I'm just not sure if its worth the money over the pcv 275. I also worry about those equilizer faders. They just seem very likely to break down.

its MUCH MUCH MUCH better then the pcv 275!!
main reason: source selection, the fact that you can have the same track playing on all 3 channels, each with diffrent eq settings (and diffrent fx if you have an effects unit), that fact alone makes this mixer one of the best in the market.
minor reasons: the filter & the fader eq (if you like it like that, like i do)

the only thing you got to worry regarding the eq faders is weather you will prefer to use them over knobs, they are not at all likely to break down.

btw, when i bought my mixer, my decision was between the X9 & the PMC37.
i went for the pmc37 mostly because i allready have an fx box (pioner efx500), and a little because i heard rumors that the x9 has got some serious bugs.

my partner on the other hand went for the empath which is a beautiful peice of gear by itself (i would have gone for it too, if it had the source selection the vestax has)

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Originally posted by Tegu well I solved the problem. I went ahead and got an Allen & Heath Xone 92 Rotary. Wow that's fuckin overboard for my first mixer...but I got a sweat deal on it. Now I just need some Technics...

Lol good luck its an ok mixer i had the rotary and now have the slide....i was gonna grab off that guy in the buy/sell section but i couldn't bring myself to just send money hoping to get the mixer in the post.....i'm not very trusting

u got a great deal if u got it from him!

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