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Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 13:43:

A message to Paul Martin

Do us all a favour and work with the covervatives to form a government. Perhaps its time that Canadians have a government that truely represents them. A Liberal-Conservative coalition would represent 67% of the voter's wishes. There are many issues within the 2 parties that are very similar (unlike what they would like you to think) and i think this coalition is doable. The nice part will also be that the other parties will ensure that the investigation into corruption gets completed and that no more scandals occur.

Ontario held its breathe and voted for the Liberals. Martin needs to understand that his government is not free to continue its arrogant ways. Just Remember Joe Clark....


Posted by starsearcher on Jun-29-2004 13:46:

I think Paul Martin is a frequent visitor to the Guvernment nighclub as well...I'm sure he'll see your post any minute now


Posted by djeso on Jun-29-2004 13:48:

omg when are these political threads are gonna stop!!!! think that's enough


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 13:48:

Obviously the message is not FOR Paul Martin


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by djeso
omg when are these political threads are gonna stop!!!! think that's enough



WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
BABY WANT HIS BOTTLE????



Posted by malek on Jun-29-2004 14:08:

Re: A message to Paul Martin

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Do us all a favour and work with the covervatives to form a government. Perhaps its time that Canadians have a government that truely represents them. A Liberal-Conservative coalition would represent 67% of the voter's wishes. There are many issues within the 2 parties that are very similar (unlike what they would like you to think) and i think this coalition is doable. The nice part will also be that the other parties will ensure that the investigation into corruption gets completed and that no more scandals occur.

Ontario held its breathe and voted for the Liberals. Martin needs to understand that his government is not free to continue its arrogant ways. Just Remember Joe Clark....


you have no clue.

He doesn't need to work with any party to get the majority. He remains the PM and will seek votes from other parties to pass new motions. (he will get it from any party that supports any given bill).

The only way to bring the govt down is if no other party supports its budget.


Posted by Ziggy on Jun-29-2004 14:10:

Hello!

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
I think Paul Martin is a frequent visitor to the Guvernment nighclub as well...I'm sure he'll see your post any minute now


Yah. I saw him few times at the guv. He probably doesn't have time
to surf on TA with the new dudies that come with the
won election, but I am sure you'll see him on the dance
floor so you can tell him about your idea, and see what
he thinks...


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 14:13:

Re: Re: A message to Paul Martin

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you have no clue.

He doesn't need to work with any party to get the majority. He remains the PM and will seek votes from other parties to pass new motions. (he will get it from any party that supports any given bill).

The only way to bring the govt down is if no other party supports its budget.


The ONLY way he get can get anything passed is by getting a majority in parliament to vote it in. This means he has 2 choices, the Bloc or the Conservatives.

The NDP did not win enough seats to be counted on alone when it comes to voting the passage of a bill. This is why i call on MArtin to work with the Conservatives and not the Bloc in order to get something done in parliament.

So you see... i do have a clue..


Posted by Skipper on Jun-29-2004 14:14:

I believe NDP did win enough seats to form majority opinion with the liberals.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 14:16:

Nope.. they are one seat shy.

the combined total makes up 154. They need 155 which means they have to work with either the Bloc or the Conservatives.


Posted by Swamper on Jun-29-2004 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I believe NDP did win enough seats to form majority opinion with the liberals.


Actually, they're off by 1


Posted by djeso on Jun-29-2004 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
BABY WANT HIS BOTTLE????




get a life .... please


Posted by Skipper on Jun-29-2004 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Actually, they're off by 1


The people on BT need to get their facts straight it seems.


Posted by JRinger on Jun-29-2004 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
The people on BT need to get their facts straight it seems.

a number of ridings were very close...the NDP dropped a few seats in the wee hours of last night as the last polls started reporting....there are a number of mandatory recounts for several ridings; it could take a while before the actual seat count is final


Posted by malek on Jun-29-2004 14:39:

Re: Re: Re: A message to Paul Martin

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
The ONLY way he get can get anything passed is by getting a majority in parliament to vote it in. This means he has 2 choices, the Bloc or the Conservatives.

The NDP did not win enough seats to be counted on alone when it comes to voting the passage of a bill. This is why i call on MArtin to work with the Conservatives and not the Bloc in order to get something done in parliament.

So you see... i do have a clue..


the liberals are closer to the Bloc and NDP on most issues than they are with the cons. This means that won't have any trouble passing new laws and measures.

If let say they want that missile defense for example then they'll have no choice but go with the cons...

The liberals will have many options to get their things going.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 14:43:

Actually... the Liberals and Conservatives are closer in many ways. The Liberals are pretty closet conservatives with politically correct thinking (or red tories as most people refer to them as).

This is why Martin forced out the lefter leaning Liberals such as Sheila Copps.

Read the 2 platforms of the parties and then tell me that the Liberals and Conservatives are radically different.

PS did you know that on Sunday our Foreign Affairs minister announced he'd be sending Canadian troops to Iraq under a NATO command?

Canada..... shafted again!


Posted by malek on Jun-29-2004 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Actually... the Liberals and Conservatives are closer in many ways. The Liberals are pretty closet conservatives with politically correct thinking (or red tories as most people refer to them as).

This is why Martin forced out the lefter leaning Liberals such as Sheila Copps.

Read the 2 platforms of the parties and then tell me that the Liberals and Conservatives are radically different.

PS did you know that on Sunday or Foreign Affairs minister announced he'd be sending Canadian troops to Iraq under a NATO command?

Canada..... shafted again!


are they similar in regard to the social issues? or that the Liberals want to keep the public health care system PUBLIC? or how about the foreign policy?

don't kid yourself.

Nato are sending troops as a peace keepin mission (UN is involved too). Canada is part of NATO and supports almost every UN mission. Canada is only doing what it has done many times. This is not an invasion and destruction mission that the Cons were supporting last year.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 15:17:

In Lieberal attack ads they said "Harper would support sending troops to iraq" leading people to believe that they wouldnt.

Also under the Lieberals we have had an INCREASE in private clinics in Canada. Why just the other day i visited a private walk in clinic. The service of course was paid by OHIP but it was a for profit company providing the service. I only waited 20 mins too!


Posted by JRinger on Jun-29-2004 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
In Lieberal attack ads they said "Harper would support sending troops to iraq" leading people to believe that they wouldnt.
they wouldn't and they didn't....troops are now being sent as part of a PEACEKEEPING mission; something Canada has a worldwide reputation for...it is NOT the same thing as sending troops as part of an invasion or war exercise....


Posted by starsearcher on Jun-29-2004 15:31:

Isn't war excercise a good thing? Sorry totally off topic...lol


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 15:50:

This is exactly why i said that the lieberal campaign was nothing but scaremongering and half truths. Sending troops to Iraq no matter what the reason still puts them in harms way which is what the Liberal party was playing on to get votes.

Deception..... get used to it Ontario... you voted for them!


Posted by starsearcher on Jun-29-2004 15:56:

Wait...you mean Canada actually has troops???

Last time I checked they didn't even have the apropriate uniforms


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2004 15:57:

Yup, and harper wanted to change all that. Hard to have a peacekeeping force when you cant even transport them overseas isnt it?


Posted by starsearcher on Jun-29-2004 16:02:

Canada doesn't really need troops...
But whatever's there now should be better supported...don't get all excited though JX i'm not a cons supporter


Posted by JRinger on Jun-29-2004 16:17:

Deception? that's ridiculous....anybody with any intelligence knows exactly what was implied by "sending troops to Iraq".....if the Conservatives and their supporters want to continue down the road of trying to discredit and campiagn against the Liberals, even after the voters have spoken, go right ahead - people will get tired of it.

ps> Canada's peacekeeping forces are among the most highly regarded in the world.


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