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Which soundcard does everybody use (any other Audigy 2 users)?!

Hi,

I was wondering which soundcard everybody uses? If you only want to play VSTi's and not record any external stuff, is the basic Audigy 2 (not talking about Platinum or whatever) then (almost?) as good in sound quality as higher priced cards like the Audiophile 2496, etc..

How is the audio quality of the Audigy 2? Any happy Audigy 2 users over here? No problems with the ASIO driver or something.. I believe people complained about the Audigy in the past but perhaps the latest drives are OK now.. even at low latency as long as you use 48khz in Cubase SX ofcourse.. but perhaps people also like to critisize the Audigy 2 cards while they might be perfect OK so please be objective in your comments! Thanks!!

I use an Audiophile. Never had a problem with it.

Does everybody use that Audiophile card (I know it's a good and popular one) or are there also happy Audigy 2 users. Anybody has both and can compare regarding sound quality when playing VSTi's. Do VSTi's sound much different between those cards or will it be more or less the same..

Also, is the fact that the basic Audigy 2 has only ASIO 1 really a problem for VSTi's. What does ASIO 2 offer more then direct monitoring. Is direct monitoring relevant for playing VSTi's or only if you record external stuff.

Dunno about basic Audigy 2 but I'm pretty damn happy with my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

MOTU 828 firewire, its glooorius

Mark Of The Unicorn own you, broken.

I use an M-Audio Delta 1010 with the PC and an M-Audio Ozone with the laptop.

I don't believe that the soundcard will affect the quality of your VSTi's. VSTi's don't generate sounds in the soundcard, but in the systems memory ( correct me if I'm wrong ).

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Originally posted by Timothy I don't believe that the soundcard will affect the quality of your VSTi's.

The souncard will only affect the sound quality coming out of your monitors.

Delta 1010
and waiting to get an RME card

Echo Mia

I would like to try out an RME.

I just ordered an E-mu 1820M and it should be here next week, but right now im using a Audigy zs platinum
You can get down to 10-20ms depending on which vsti's you have running, but that is a little how for me.

Re: Which soundcard does everybody use (any other Audigy 2 users)?!

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Originally posted by Dance123 Hi, I was wondering which soundcard everybody uses? If you only want to play VSTi's and not record any external stuff, is the basic Audigy 2 (not talking about Platinum or whatever) then (almost?) as good in sound quality as higher priced cards like the Audiophile 2496, etc..

it comes pretty close. you might be able to hear the difference when using a good pair of speakers, but, then again, you might not. it depends. i currently use audigy 1 bulk (it costs like 50 USD now) which aint that bad, but i am getting an emu 1212m in a few days, and then i will be able to tell if the quality difference exists.

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How is the audio quality of the Audigy 2? Any happy Audigy 2 users over here? No problems with the ASIO driver or something.. I believe people complained about the Audigy in the past but perhaps the latest drives are OK now.. even at low latency as long as you use 48khz in Cubase SX ofcourse.. but perhaps people also like to critisize the Audigy 2 cards while they might be perfect OK so please be objective in your comments! Thanks!!

the converters are pretty basic stuff - better than onboard ones, but not completely suitable for pro level. i don't know anyone who uses audigy or live card with standard creative drivers though - creative sucks in that department. everyone i know uses kx drivers which proved to be pretty good.
you must understand that audigy cards will never be as good as the pro stuff simply because creative main buyers of audigy cards are not professional musicians, but gamers and people who want to watch movies in 6.1 sound.

Im using Delta 6/6 Alright to me. No problem at all.

Anybody who uses the basic Audigy 2 (or Audigy 1) that has only an ASIO 1 driver I believe can tell me how low latency you can get without problems when using 48khz samplerate in Cubase SX (or similar program). Can you go below 10ms at 48khz? I believe the ZS cards can have 2ms at 48khz, but what about the original Audigy 2 cards at 48khz?! I would use it in a 3Ghz PC in case that matters. Thanks for the info!!

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Originally posted by Dance123 Anybody who uses the basic Audigy 2 (or Audigy 1) that has only an ASIO 1 driver I believe can tell me how low latency you can get without problems when using 48khz samplerate in Cubase SX (or similar program). Can you go below 10ms at 48khz? I believe the ZS cards can have 2ms at 48khz, but what about the original Audigy 2 cards at 48khz?! I would use it in a 3Ghz PC in case that matters. Thanks for the info!!

i could play pro53 in standalone with 5.33 msec latency. but cubase, no friggin' way. i work in 22 secs all the time, since my projects include 6-9 synths, and at least one of them is zeta
if you didn't buy a soundcard yet, go to emu.com and consider emu 0404 - i mean, an emu card for 100 quid! it looks like a steal from here.

22ms? That seems high? Which Audigy do you have? Did you set samplerate at 48khz in Cubase? Isn't it possible to get below 10ms with this card playing multiple VSTi's? Which driver do you use? Did you try the SB driver with the latest updates from there site? Let me know if you can get it better then 22ms in Cubase (don't forget to set at 48khz)!

By the way, if you go below 22ms in your Cubase project, which problems occur then?

Generally, if you have an audio card and you set the latency lower then it can handle, how will you normally notice this?! Do you get distortion, CPU overload,.. ? What are the signs that indicate you have reached the lowest latency for your card?! Anybody can please list those..

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Originally posted by Dance123 22ms? That seems high?

not really, but i must have the best one! HAHAHAHAHA!

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Which Audigy do you have?

the cheapest one available on this planet, audigy 1 bulk.

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Did you set samplerate at 48khz in Cubase?

of course, asio drivers do not work in anything else than 48k since the chip itself is locked to 48 k. don't tell me you didn't know that.

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Isn't it possible to get below 10ms with this card playing multiple VSTi's?

i think it is possible, but not like 5,6 of them. and especially not if yeta is one of them.

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Which driver do you use?

kx drivers, revision 3524.

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Did you try the SB driver with the latest updates from there site?

hell no. tried them when i bought the card, and it was crap. nobody i know uses official drivers for making music.

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Let me know if you can get it better then 22ms in Cubase (don't forget to set at 48khz)!

i had some arrangements with pro53, two instances of synth1 and battery. along there were ohmboys delay, ambience reverb and two kjaerhus compressors, and tls limiter. all was running at 11 ms, and it was pretty ok. and then i added albino and cubase said no way.

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By the way, if you go below 22ms in your Cubase project, which problems occur then?

depends on the synths. the problems which occur is that the are pops and clicks in the sound, when you try to open a mixer when the song plays, there are even more pops and clicks, and the mixer open up channel per channel, and it takes him 15-20 seconds to open. play/stop buttons react with 5-10 second delay, etc. when not playing, the cpu usage is about 70%, and when playing, it goes to 100% just like that.

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Generally, if you have an audio card and you set the latency lower then it can handle, how will you normally notice this?! Do you get distortion, CPU overload,.. ? What are the signs that indicate you have reached the lowest latency for your card?! Anybody can please list those..

look above. and don't worry, you'll hear it for sure

i run a sblive 5.1 with kx audio drivers.. no probs @ all.. can't be arsed with all these other 'pro'cards :P

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