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Posted by Massive84 on Jun-30-2004 15:22:

Cool How Many Instruments you use on a production?

Hey am Curious

For Temple i used 2 full reason mixers, 28 instruments

but you may not count layerd stuff with same instrument, like for a kick, some people layer 10 same kicks..(cough luke)


Posted by Digital Aura on Jun-30-2004 15:24:

Does that really kick the crap outta your CPU usage?
Just wondered... I get problems not so much with having many instruments, but when I start to mixdown and put multiple effects on each of them LOOKOUT!!

quote:
some people layer 10 same kicks..
THATS INSANE!


Posted by hey cheggy on Jun-30-2004 17:11:

I normally use about 10 synths, but some of that is hardware so it doesn't munch too much CPU. As far as channels go though, I might be running about 30 channels all up.


Posted by Psy-T on Jun-30-2004 17:59:

well usually it goes like:
2-4 redrums
2-5 subtractors
2-5 malstroms
1-3 dr.rex's
1-2 nn19s (or 1 nnxt)
3-10 scream's
1-3 rv7000s
1-5 reverb units (the old ones, forgot the name)
3-6 compressors
2-5 delay units
4-7 filter units
1-4 eq units
a vocoder

and a mixer or two


Posted by Massive84 on Jun-30-2004 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
well usually it goes like:
2-4 redrums
2-5 subtractors
2-5 malstroms
1-3 dr.rex's
1-2 nn19s (or 1 nnxt)
3-10 scream's
1-3 rv7000s
1-5 reverb units (the old ones, forgot the name)
3-6 compressors
2-5 delay units
4-7 filter units
1-4 eq units
a vocoder

and a mixer or two


hmm curious what do you compress? i use only 3 compressors max, 2 min clap and kick..sometmes bass.


Posted by robin on Jun-30-2004 23:29:

digital aurora, its not like he would use all 28 at once.

gonna do a little test on how much i can run bbl


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-01-2004 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by robin
digital aurora, its not like he would use all 28 at once.

Why not?

I used 48 channels on Genesis (10 channels on the lead alone) out of which at least 20-30 were used throughout the main section...

I would had taken a screenshot but I can't fit them all in the same screen.

Edit:
Right, not counting layered stuff... ahem... 36 channels.


Posted by broken silence on Jul-01-2004 06:25:

i usually use about 8 or so virus parts, 6 nova parts, 5 or so subtractors, orchestral vst with about 3 instruments (ie strings, piano etc), usually 1 sometimes 2 redrums, 1 dr. rex, 2-3 NN19s, battery for SFX..usually like 20-30 samples, usually like 3 vsts fer extra sounds like pro-53 or vanguard, very few effects, usually like 2 reverbs on cubase's send and 2 delays, then about like 4 or so individual reverbs, and a bunch of PSP vintage warmer compressors.

so usually about 30ish, maybe more sometimes. my cpu doesnt like much more though, especially with fuckin orchestral vst :P


Posted by Psy-T on Jul-01-2004 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
hmm curious what do you compress? i use only 3 compressors max, 2 min clap and kick..sometmes bass.


i dont only use the compressor to compress, i sometimes use it as an effect unit (together with a nice distortion, or a proper filter setting)


Posted by Digital Aura on Jul-01-2004 22:50:

Wow...this really sheds some light on things for me.
I used 14 channels total on my first piece. Guess some of my patches are feeling lonely!


Posted by Sebraa on Jul-02-2004 06:48:

2 mixers of REASON intruments! (32ch)


Posted by Rob on Jul-02-2004 07:00:

Mixer 1: with a compressor
Redrum(kick)
Subtractor(for lowend bassline)
Subtractor(for upper bassline)

Mixer 2(percs): with a compressor
Redrum(1 perc sample)
Redrum(1 perc sample)
Redrum(1 perc sample)
Redrum(1 perc sample)
Redrum(1 perc sample)
Redrum(clap)
Redrum(clap)
Subtractor/Maelstrom - for any elctro percs

I do this because it gets too cluttered having 10 samples in the one redrum. It makes tracking easier too

Mixer 3:
Subrator: 2-5(leads)
Maelstrom: 2-5(leads)


Posted by DjParis on Jul-02-2004 08:23:

well seen i do everything on my MC909 Groove Box i dont have the luxary of doing 100's of layers of samples and am limited to 2mfx and 16 channels. but i guess if i can make it sound good with just that ill be breezing through it when i get my cubase sx next week


Posted by EternalMusic on Jul-02-2004 09:59:

I use 30 to 40 channels in a track, and i use a compressor on each channel .


Posted by TOR on Jul-02-2004 09:59:

usually two mixers in Reason as well..


that's impressive Nik what you did for the lead in Genesis. for a lead, i always use 3 or 4 instruments max., nothing more (those EQ units in Reason are a hassle).
Plus Ultra contains 3 instruments for the lead (+ 3 strings to fill things up)


and layering 10 kicks hehe, never tried that...


Posted by AirPole on Jul-02-2004 10:09:

- PErcussion: All NN19's --> Grouped together to a mixer called 'Percussion'
- Bass: 2 Subtractors or more --> Grouped to a mixer called 'Synths'
- Lead: 4 Subtractors or more --> Grouped to the same 'Synths' Mixer
- Pads/Strings: NN19/ Subtractors --> Also connected to 'Synths' Mixer
- Fx: Subtractors --> Also connected to 'Synths Mixer'


So i have some mixers: Synths, Percussion (and sometimes Synths2, Percussion2 etc. etc.) and all these mixers go into one main mixer.
I use send effects the most: on Synths mixer, 2 delays, 1 panned left a bit , 1 panned right a bit, with steps of 3 and 4. And also use insert fx as well, but not often.

Further only compression on kick, claps en bass. Equalize almost every nice instrument, like leads pads etc. etc.

The setup I use, is taken from someone 'big' on these forums


Cheers!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-02-2004 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
usually two mixers in Reason as well..


that's impressive Nik what you did for the lead in Genesis. for a lead, i always use 3 or 4 instruments max., nothing more (those EQ units in Reason are a hassle).
Plus Ultra contains 3 instruments for the lead (+ 3 strings to fill things up)


and layering 10 kicks hehe, never tried that...

Well it was a bit of an overkill, I must admit. And to top it all off the release (if it's ever happening) won't even have those synths in it


Posted by Luke Terry on Jul-02-2004 23:17:

Cool



it varies


Posted by Unknown DJ on Jul-04-2004 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Well it was a bit of an overkill, I must admit. And to top it all off the release (if it's ever happening) won't even have those synths in it



why not?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-04-2004 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Unknown DJ
why not?

Reworked.


Posted by Massive84 on Jul-04-2004 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Reworked.


wow again :S..?



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