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Posted by romchik on Jul-02-2004 01:05:

Progressive trance

I just wanted to find out what do u exactly call progressive trance
I thought Sunrise at Palamos by M.I.K.E was progressive , but a lot of trance addicts said it is not.
Could you define progressive trance , and give an example of hot progressive choons.

Thanksz

Posted by Luke Cartwright on Jul-02-2004 01:15:

Re: Progressive trance

quote:
Originally posted by romchik
I just wanted to find out what do u exactly call progressive trance
I thought Sunrise at Palamos by M.I.K.E was progressive , but a lot of trance addicts said it is not.
Could you define progressive trance , and give an example of hot progressive choons.

Thanksz

Progressive to me is tunes that sound the same all the way through.

I wouldn't class Sunrise At Palamos as progressive it is a quality definition of a great chillin trance tune,

M.I.K.E does have a progressive feel to alot of his newer tunes but i think they will always have that trancy sound.

Nathan Fake Outhouse is a good example of progressive trance and alot of Airwaves production are too.

Posted by Floorfiller on Jul-02-2004 01:16:

i think a lot of people consider

James Holden

progressive trance.

Posted by romchik on Jul-02-2004 01:34:

James Holden creates more of a "chilliout"sound .He mixes trance with chillout , and slows down the tunes` tempo

Posted by Floorfiller on Jul-02-2004 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by romchik
James Holden creates more of a "chilliout"sound .He mixes trance with chillout , and slows down the tunes` tempo

just trust me...

Posted by fitom tiel on Jul-02-2004 01:55:

Benz & MD
Subpshere
Azior

Posted by mto on Jul-02-2004 01:58:

Re: Progressive trance

Posted by TwoPlow on Jul-02-2004 02:20:

Re: Re: Progressive trance

quote:
Originally posted by mto
prog is gay

Then I love the cock.

Prog has a deeper, darker sound. Less of the big uplift that Trance has. More housey, as well. Really hard to define.

James Holden - A Break In The Clouds
Matthew Dekay - If I Could Fly
Underworld - Dark And Long (Dark Train Mix)
Yunus G�venen - Euphrates

Those are a few of my favorite prog songs, if you want examples.

Posted by mto on Jul-02-2004 02:21:

Re: Re: Re: Progressive trance

quote:
Originally posted by TwoPlow
Then I love the cock.

Prog has a deeper, darker sound. Less of the big uplift that Trance has. More housey, as well. Really hard to define.

James Holden - A Break In The Clouds
Matthew Dekay - If I Could Fly
Underworld - Dark And Long (Dark Train Mix)
Yunus G�venen - Euphrates

Those are a few of my favorite prog songs, if you want examples.

okay, i really needed your lesson

Posted by Spang on Jul-02-2004 03:12:

It has always amazed me why MIKE is considered progressive trance. His tracks are always 137-140 bpm and that is nowhere near progressive. He is the trance master. For me prog trance is more 130-135 bpm at most

For good prog trance listen to sets by Markus Schulz, Sasha, Ian ossia etc.

Check out tracks by Subsky, Probspot, Perry O'Neil, Shiloh, lemon8, Leama & Moor, Deepsky etc. There all class.

Posted by citric_acid on Jul-02-2004 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
just trust me...

lol i trust him, that convised me that he knew what he was talking about :P

Posted by surfrgal on Jul-02-2004 03:33:

My favorite progressive mix CD is Chris Fortier's "Trance Nation America" on Engine in 2000. I never get tired of this mix.

Posted by TwoPlow on Jul-02-2004 03:37:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Progressive trance

quote:
Originally posted by mto
okay, i really needed your lesson

Nothing past the first line was directed at you. I was referring to the original topic of the thread past there.

Posted by Ghostface on Jul-02-2004 04:12:

Like Spang said, Leama & Moor is a good place to start. I think of tunes like this as progressive trance.

Li Kwan - Point Zero (Leama & Moor Mix)
2 Players - Signet (Leama & Moor Mix)
Brian Eno - An Ending (Ascent) (Leama & Moor Mix)
Peter Martin - Perfect Wave
Vadim Zhukov - Exit
Probspot - Foreplay
Ozgur Can - Irony
Michael Burns - The Ambience
Whirpool - Under The Sun (Markus Schulz Mix)
Mark Ottens - Mushroom Therapy

Posted by Tetraflux on Jul-02-2004 07:49:

Fernandez & Chable 'come to me' Chris Fortier mix.. prog trance down to a fine art.

Posted by j�c� on Jul-02-2004 08:02:

Dave Seaman - GU016

this IS progressive trance!

Posted by XeQtOr on Jul-02-2004 09:22:

Get some Global Underground compilations from Sasha, John Digweed, Nick Warren, Dave Seaman....The list could go on for ages.. Those are mostly quality progressive trance/house..

Posted by noikeee on Jul-02-2004 10:27:

"progressive trance" is a very, very broad name used to describe pretty much everything that goes from M.I.K.E.'s tunes to Subsky's

on one side, you got the bonzai progressive trance with M.I.K.E., L-Vee & co making stuff above the 135 bpm rank, eventually a blend of uplifting with progressive

on another side, you got the so-popular nowadays blend of progressive house/progressive trance/progressive breaks that people just call "progressive" for convenience. stuff like Subsky, Ozgur Can, Yunus, all of the prog bandwagon that eventually gets discussions about whether it's trance or house. if it has a different beat than 4/4, then it immediately becomes "breaks"

Posted by Zombie0915 on Jul-02-2004 13:42:

What confuses me the most is the super repetitive really old trance songs, these seem to be more "progressive" then any of the stuff out now, they change sooo gradually and such, but they are not considered progressive at all, they are just called trance. Many people find the looping nature of prog to be more entrancing then the massive supersaw tunes that are being called trance now. In general "progressive" seems to mean repetitive and gradualy changing, but if the repeating and changing is done in a certain style then prog heads don't claim it and it gets called trance instead.

Posted by mto on Jul-02-2004 14:04:

ok its like this.. listen to GU comps, listen to Sasha, Digweed, Sander K, Holden, Dekay, D:Fuse, Fleming.. if u like the more housey vibe listen to Deep Dish, Ozgur Can, Sultan, Infusion..... thats all progressive.

Posted by Zombie0915 on Jul-02-2004 14:15:

flemming is prog now? I thought he was like, a bit of everything and kinda on the psy side, sigh. Sometimes I think the prog ppl just claim which ever music they think sounds good.

How about instead of pointing out artists, describe the difference in the sounds of the music?

I guess there is no concrete answer, it doenst really matter anyway.

Posted by mto on Jul-02-2004 14:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
flemming is prog now? I thought he was like, a bit of everything and kinda on the psy side, sigh. Sometimes I think the prog ppl just claim which ever music they think sounds good.

How about instead of pointing out artists, describe the difference in the sounds of the music?

I guess there is no concrete answer, it doenst really matter anyway.

Yeah Flemming spins some psy here and there. However, he did prog in his career, and some of it is still good to listen. Even if you listen to his more recent remixes, Mahadeva remix for example... still has a proggy feel to it.