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Posted by ac dc on Jul-02-2004 14:59:

1 ear monitoring versue 2 ears monitoring

Alright i heard that the better method for beatmatching is 1 ear to head phones the other ear monitor live...

if the place u spinning have no monitor speakers and the delay is bad... how can u beatmatch using this method??? advise

How abt beatmatching with both tunes playing in ur headphones?
advise

Thanks

Posted by chesco on Jul-02-2004 15:00:

Re: 1 ear monitoring versue 2 ears monitoring

quote:
Originally posted by ac dc

How abt beatmatching with both tunes playing in ur headphones?
advise

Thanks

I've got into the habit of doing this.

Tbh I can't notice a whole lot of difference, but i've not being dj'ing for that long.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Jul-02-2004 16:06:

If you intend to start playing out you might as well get used to all methods as you will encounter them all at some point.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by ac dc on Jul-02-2004 16:45:

i have seen pvd mixed and he only used 1 ear monitoring...y?
he has godly ears? he mastered the techniques?

but i have seen armin did his beatmatching in his headphones b4 but he also used one ear most of the time

Posted by djshan on Jul-02-2004 17:40:

i always change my ways. sometimes i use 1 ear or sometimes 2. it depends on wat is more comfortable.

Posted by raoel on Jul-02-2004 17:46:

I beatmatch with both caps on my ears.

IMO you can hear it better if a beat is "off". On the other hand, it's more difficult to hear which of the records is "off". But i'm used to it now and i can hear it perfect.

Another BIG advantage is that it's better for your ears. If you mix with one ear cap you'll turn up the volume of the headphone much higher so you can hear it clear enough. Anyway, that's my experience.

Posted by nrjizer on Jul-02-2004 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by raoel
I beatmatch with both caps on my ears.

IMO you can hear it better if a beat is "off". On the other hand, it's more difficult to hear which of the records is "off". But i'm used to it now and i can hear it perfect.

Another BIG advantage is that it's better for your ears. If you mix with one ear cap you'll turn up the volume of the headphone much higher so you can hear it clear enough. Anyway, that's my experience.

Very true. It does take better care of your ears, and thats the main reason why I use it pretty much exclusively, though I've started to learn to do 1-ear while transitioning, because its quicker to check and is more accurate for telling which way to change the beat.

And unless I'm mistaken, most all mixers can play both channels in both cans at the same time, correct?

Posted by Boomer187 on Jul-02-2004 19:27:

is there really a difference?

When I mix at home I have them both on, then when I play out somewhere I mix with one on. I never notice a difference.

Posted by razzi on Jul-02-2004 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer

And unless I'm mistaken, most all mixers can play both channels in both cans at the same time, correct?

most mixers can.

i mix this way the best as well. i do use 1 ear + monitor if it seems more comfortable for the certain situation though. its good to mix it up a bit and get comfortable with both ways

Posted by Psiweaver on Jul-02-2004 19:40:

A lot of it just has to do with personal preferance i tend to mix with both ears on then once i've got the tracked locked in go back to one ear for the transition.

Posted by Zild on Jul-02-2004 20:05:

I usually beatmatch and cue with both ears in the cans and when i'm transitioning i'll move to 1 ear or actually take the cans off both ears and do it like that. Whatever works.

Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-02-2004 20:22:

do you want to go deaf?

When you 1 ear monitor... you are suppose to have the volume from the monitors and the volume in the headphoens at the EXACT same level... otherwise serious ear damage will occur... and by the same level i mean, if you were to take off your headphones it would sound like u have a monitor on the otherside of you... does that make sense?

There are times where one ear monitoring will need to happen, but if you can stay away from it... do so

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-02-2004 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
do you want to go deaf?

When you 1 ear monitor... you are suppose to have the volume from the monitors and the volume in the headphoens at the EXACT same level... otherwise serious ear damage will occur... and by the same level i mean, if you were to take off your headphones it would sound like u have a monitor on the otherside of you... does that make sense?

There are times where one ear monitoring will need to happen, but if you can stay away from it... do so

i disagree i would always use one ear monitoring...except where u have 2....not all mixers have split cues and i think levels could be more closely matched when listen to an actual monitor vs. headphones

not to mention missing half the fun

Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-03-2004 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
And unless I'm mistaken, most all mixers can play both channels in both cans at the same time, correct?

unfortunately, the one that is used by most clubs doesn't offer a split cue function...Rane's Rotary mixer...

Posted by nrjizer on Jul-03-2004 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
unfortunately, the one that is used by most clubs doesn't offer a split cue function...Rane's Rotary mixer...

No I'm not talking about split cue (which is where channel A is in one headphone, and channel B is in the other one, correct?). I'm just talking about having both channels going full volume in both earcups at the same time (as if you were simply cue'ing live over the monitors instead of in the headphones). I beleive most mixers will let you do this if you just turn cue on for both channels.

Posted by Spin Doctor on Jul-03-2004 05:12:

What�s all this about having the levels of the headphones and the monitors at the exact same level? Rubbish IMHO, you�d be deaf within 4 sets at that rate. I always have my headphones at the exact minimum I can set it so I can gear what I need to hear (which is substantially lower than the level of the monitors.)

I�d contest that two ear monitoring is actually the worse for your hearing. Since when ever I�ve used two ears I�ve found I�ve always had to turn it up REALLY loud to overcome the sounds from the master speakers.

With one ear monitoring your working with the current sound, with two you�re working against it. Plus, with one ear monitoring, you can change ears if one is getting tired, something you definitely can�t with two...unless you have a spare pair of ears!

Posted by ac dc on Jul-03-2004 05:35:

hmmm...ok...

but if lets say we use the headphones to beatmatch...
Must the level in the headphones be loud enough to mask the interference sound from the outside?

Then its not very healthy for the ears also...

Posted by nrjizer on Jul-03-2004 05:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Doctor

I�d contest that two ear monitoring is actually the worse for your hearing. Since when ever I�ve used two ears I�ve found I�ve always had to turn it up REALLY loud to overcome the sounds from the master speakers.

With one ear monitoring your working with the current sound, with two you�re working against it. Plus, with one ear monitoring, you can change ears if one is getting tired, something you definitely can�t with two...unless you have a spare pair of ears!

Well I'd assume that a good pair of cans will block out outside sound well enough, but then again I've yet to play on a big system. Anyone who has want to comment on this?

Posted by clubsolutely on Jul-03-2004 09:58:

using the djm600 mixer i have found it very easy to mix with one headphone on my ear...and thats what im doing so far

Posted by Dj Dissent on Jul-03-2004 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
No I'm not talking about split cue (which is where channel A is in one headphone, and channel B is in the other one, correct?). I'm just talking about having both channels going full volume in both earcups at the same time (as if you were simply cue'ing live over the monitors instead of in the headphones). I beleive most mixers will let you do this if you just turn cue on for both channels.

not rane's rotary

Posted by Freak on Jul-03-2004 12:43:

learn everything
Be prepared for all possible situations- both musically and technically

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-03-2004 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
learn everything
Be prepared for all possible situations- both musically and technically

that very good advice......the method of no method

Posted by Spin Doctor on Jul-04-2004 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Well I'd assume that a good pair of cans will block out outside sound well enough, but then again I've yet to play on a big system. Anyone who has want to comment on this?

Well yes and no. All the top brand DJ headphones do isolate the noise some what, but not 100%, especially on a loud system. I�d not want to imagine what it must be like monitoring on a truly massive system.

Posted by Vero on Jul-07-2004 04:05:

i can go either way. most of the time i will beatmatch in both ears and switch to 1 ear when i bring in the track.

Posted by DannyO on Jul-07-2004 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
learn everything
Be prepared for all possible situations- both musically and technically

Thats all that needs to be said right there.

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