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This is gonna be fucking sweet. Imagine being able to do this and this
text from eurogamer:
Pro Evolution Soccer 4 is due out this autumn. That alone is about as likely to surprise fans of the series as another set of title graphics, but another aspect of today's announcement from Konami of Europe is something rather more exciting - it's due out on PS2, PC... and Xbox. Although Konami had previously announced plans to release PES on Xbox, the publisher has been cautious up to now not to associate the Microsoft version with the ongoing PS2 series.
Similarly, Konami is being cautious about online play - something that it simply will not comment on for now. The inclusion of PS2 Online or Xbox Live support would seem to be the next obvious step to take on the road to improving the Tokyo development team's footballing opus, but for the moment at least your guess is as good as ours.
That said, today's official announcement of the game is far more than confirmation of formats. It also goes into some detail as to the sorts of areas the Tokyo dev team is focusing its efforts on improving, and pleasingly there are changes all over the park. To begin with, the players themselves will be more individualised. The statistics that fuel everything will now govern a larger number of aspects, including a player's ability to control high or fast balls, to hit it first time to beat an encroaching defender, or to flick it onto a team-mate. In other words, if you want to make progress, you'll want someone like Nedved on the receiving end rather than Phil Neville.
Fortunately, it should be even more obvious who's who this time out. There will be more individuality in the way players run and move on and off the ball, and indeed the way they control it. Anybody who has ever been mesmerised by the bizarre flapping toes of Robert Pires should have no difficulty picking him out, for example - and close-ups will reveal improved likenesses to back it all up. And although we can't see much evidence of it in the screenshots, kits should also get dirtier as games wear on - so you'll always be able to pick out the likes of Beckham who spend more time sprawled on their fronts angling for a free kick than anything else.
KCET has also taken steps to boost the referee's presence, too, so there will at least be someone to answer to in those situations. Not only will the ref be seen running around following the play, but he will also move in to calm things down in person, hopefully eliminating some of those needless and time-consuming Yellow Card cutaways that we always seem to hammer the X button to escape from. The ref will also visibly react to minor infringements, and we understand his interpretation of the advantage rule has been refined - something that the recent Japanese release Winning Eleven 7 International also expanded upon.
Dead balls will also finally see some improvements. Although many have now mastered the complexities of the free kick system, it's never been completely brilliant, and penalties are still pretty basic and unchanged after several iterations. Both will be updated for Pro Evolution Soccer 4, and KCET is even working in indirect free kicks for the first time, which ought to add some variety. It would certainly be nice to evolve some of our set plays beyond the odd feint and pass.
Crosses and cutbacks will also benefit from refinement, and Konami is also promising an improved dribbling system that offers more control in one-on-one encounters. PES3 and WE7I both included some skill moves on the right analogue stick, but it's debatable as to just how useful these proved for any but the most advanced player in general play. Hopefully changes in this area improve the fluidity of this sort of thing.
Finally, it remains to say that there will be more club and international teams (presumably including more licensed inclusions, something which PES3 began doing last year), extra formation screens, and more changes to the ever-popular Master League. A "My Best Eleven" option allows players to save their greatest line-ups for prosperity, and players can also now be forced to retire through severe injury during a Master League season.
And that's all we have for now. PES4 is out this autumn on PS2, Xbox and PC, but we probably won't have to wait that long to see some of its ideas at work. Knowing KCET, a certain amount of PES4's functionality will also make it in to Winning Eleven 8, which is due out in Japan this August, and you can bet we'll be importing that to have a look when it does come out. Until then, here's the first batch of official Pro Evolution Soccer 4 screenshots to enjoy...
more screens: http://www.totalvideogames.com/page...ll&game_id=3969
sweet
PES3 was awesome
i just came!
Ok there wasnt much info in the first post, so here it is 
note that this is actually we8 info so pes4 could be even better
ref is on the pitch
improved master league, and players can retire and develop
indirect free kicks (touch and shoot)
updated rules
over 200 teams
kits get dirty, maybe depending on how muddy the pitch is
new feints, turns, traps and tricks
6 star difficulty can be unlocked
keepers are much more realistic
many more stadiums
dummys on free kicks
players have more momentum, will take longer to slow down when sprinting
more advanced training
pass using chest
more control over crosses
no more cheating or unrealistically harsh refs
players can use the outside of their foot more
spanish, dutch and italian leagues fully licensed
more volleys
can pick who to pass to instead of it usually going to the closest person in that direction
more free kick and penalty types
headers are more realistic
players who arent 2 footed will use their good foot much more
players off the ball can be controlled
winning can improve the teams ability in master league
more power bars
players fight/argue, referee will step in
more player attributes
ai is improved and varied
players can wear gloves and their socks are not always up to their knees
ball will curl more (dip too?)
in master league u can start with a real team, the usual default team or the default team with 3 players replaced
many players have their own special tricks (remember rauls turn and del pieros lob in pes3)
can move players without moving the ball
player attributes make more of a difference, much harder to effectivly burst down the wing with a slow player
shooting is improved
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| Originally posted by DJ-Fuq ref is on the pitch |
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spanish, dutch and italian leagues fully licensed |
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players fight/argue, referee will step in |
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many players have their own special tricks (remember rauls turn and del pieros lob in pes3) |
(damn i hate the horse face)
this game is gonna be soooo good
Wow! this looks incredible!
cant wait!!
certainly the best game in the world imo! 
looks like somebody who can't walk in a straight line cut the grass tho
u can make the keeper drop the ball (this is already in we7ij)
more responsive crowd with new effects and animations
new backwards pass using studs (doesnt replace backheels)
konami wont comment on online mode for pes4
the ai is going to be a big step forward from pes3. It already was much better in we7ij, and apparently 5* mode in pes4 will almost be like watching a real match
possibly linesmen visible on the pitch during play
not many players have fake names
strategies are more noticable
only new national team is latvia
amount of stoppage time will be displayed
more screens
looking forward to playing it, see a lot of weak points from pes3 being fixed which is great so pes4 > pes3 > EA fifa
digital orgasm
any videos? 
what dumbfounds me is when i see people continue to play fifa- weird...
the pes3 for pc needed a supercomputer, i hope they make it more pc friendly this time around. I always preferred the ps2 experience but with the pc you can add tonnes of great patches (updated names, uniforms etc).
cant wait!
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| Originally posted by Valhalla looking forward to playing it, see a lot of weak points from pes3 being fixed which is great so pes4 > pes3 > EA fifa |
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| any videos? |
first we8 preview http://ps2.ign.com/articles/534/534598p1.html?fromint=1
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