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Posted by Niklas Harding on Sep-16-2001 12:43:

Smiley DJ CD vs. Vinyl, what should i choose?

Hi PPl

ive been mixing for a few month at the local school and so on, ive been mixing on some borrowed stuff:
2x CDJ-500II LTD
1x DJM500

and now wanna start buying my own stuff, but i cant really decide, should i buy some cd mixing equipment?. Almost every person im talking to advice me to go buy tt's'n'stuff!, i know lots of u ppl would say the same! but it would be a lot easyer to go with the cd's, cause here where i live, there arent any good vinyl stores! so i should order em online, would'nt it be more xpensive compared to buying cd's, maybe any of u have the experience with it?

So plz give me some reasons so my brain can decide, go buying tt's og cd players!, and if so any advice at tt's, cause im not really into what tt's, mixers etc. works well, in a good price! its prolly been asking before, but now ive looked thru the other threads, and havent really been clear on what to buy and not to buy!!

hope some of u guys can help me out

-Over And Out

-KenXo


Posted by DJTJ on Sep-16-2001 13:16:

It really depends on you... Proper CD releases of new club tracks are pretty hard to come by, you may find you even have to write off to labels to get them made specially, since everything is released almost exclusively on vinyl at first. If the track becomes popular, then the CDs are easier to come by. However, if you want to go down the illegal route, and I strongly advise you against this, you can download the tracks and burn them onto CD yourself.

In addition to this, in my opinion, vinyl is much more fun to use than CDs. I have used both, and the complete hands-on approach is just so much nicer, CDs just don't even come close to this (no, not even the CDJ-1000).

But there are advantages to CDs as well, like the fact that they tend to be slightly cheaper (when you can get them that is!), and a hell of a lot easier to transport than crates of vinyl.

But nothing beats the feel of spinning vinyl! It's just so much more fun. If you haven't tried it, I advise you to do so before committing to either path, and make your own mind up.


Posted by Niklas Harding on Sep-16-2001 13:49:

thnx alot for the advice!! il try go to the local "dj" store and ask if i could try some tt's

-KenXo


Posted by Kuffdam on Sep-16-2001 15:47:

decks

you have to pick 12" over cds
so much better....you just dont have that truly hands on feel with cds


Posted by djskylz on Sep-16-2001 18:06:

If you are searching for vinylstores, it doesn't have to be in your neighbourhood, there are lots of vinylstore's online, but if you have a fast internet connection and a cd burner, then you can create your own cd's. And, if you start mixing with cd, you can always buy some tt's later, and if you decide mixing with tt's, you can always add a cd player...

Greetz Maarten


Posted by Phanta C 2001 on Sep-16-2001 18:31:

go with a little bit of both...spin vinyl if u can get your hands on it at a record store...and use CD if you can get promos as mp3 or unrelesed stufff..thats how i do it...or if im runnong low on money one week, ill just burn 5 or 6 new tracks and use them in my mix


Posted by Niklas Harding on Sep-16-2001 18:41:

thnx for the reply's!!
lots of u talking about burning cd's.. but do u use it at local party's or more public party's..... cause here in denmark some dj's got busted using burned cd's... they had the original cd at home but burned it down.. so if it where stolen it where only a 10$cd and not the original

think il go for the tt's, looked at what tracks i could get im ny local area on cd's... and that sucked... and found some online vinyl stores who got all the new kicking tunes... so here we go again: any got a good advice for a mixer? or some tt's.. should not bee very xpensive but i still got some money to spend.!



-KenXo


Posted by Eugene on Sep-16-2001 20:02:

Smiley DJ

I just wanna say that people who use CD players and CD's for mixing usually spin what is called "Top-40" (very popular, well-known, commercial hits), because that's what's usually available to the public, and the public buys CD's.

On the other hand if you plan to spin a lot of truly underground material that hasn't received that much publicity, forget about CD's, vinyl is the only choice. Everything is usually released on vinyl, both Top-40 and Trance, so vinyl is the safer choice... although it's much more expensive! For instance, for a single vinyl record containing 2 mixes expect to pay $10-12.

Some people also claim vinyl has better sound fidelity/quality than do CD's. I've actually come to realize this myself.


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Sep-17-2001 23:12:

Vinyl hands down


Posted by VoiDeT on Sep-18-2001 07:08:

I'm with the turntables on this on, it's just the feel you get when you touch the vinyl. It makes it alot better hands on....


Posted by DJDREO on Sep-06-2003 23:06:

Im kinda of a NEwbie DJ, and i went with Cd's. But can someone explain about the burning CD's. And to that person that said "Top 40" I think your right. Most of the tracks i download are ones that you play when you want to get things kicked off. Also I burn the CD's but i only use them at home and i am still learning. So what if i use these Burned CD's at a party or like a party for my friends in my basement, is that illegal. I have Numark Cd mix-2 and im still learning, but now that i see i think i might stick with vinyl. I dunno someone help me please.


Posted by benoitfan on Sep-06-2003 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by VoiDeT
I'm with the turntables on this on, it's just the feel you get when you touch the vinyl. It makes it alot better hands on....


I have both TTs and CDs decks and what I don't get is why everyone says "feel you get when you touch the vinyl". 'Cos all I do is cue on first beat release it pitch up and down, beatmatch, memorize the spot, go back, cue it on first beat, release it and adjust it with pitch. So my hands only touch the record when waiting for a new phrase. with cds the difference is pressing play.. I think people should give priority to sound quality and record quantity, and for that I say go for CDs if you'll only spin really popular tracks, otherwise vinyl is the way to go if you want white labels or tracks that are less known. I couldn't care less for the feel you get!
Just my opinion here ppl


Posted by DJDREO on Sep-07-2003 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJDREO
Im kinda of a NEwbie DJ, and i went with Cd's. But can someone explain about the burning CD's. And to that person that said "Top 40" I think your right. Most of the tracks i download are ones that you play when you want to get things kicked off. Also I burn the CD's but i only use them at home and i am still learning. So what if i use these Burned CD's at a party or like a party for my friends in my basement, is that illegal. I have Numark Cd mix-2 and im still learning, but now that i see i think i might stick with vinyl. I dunno someone help me please.


Please if anyone knows please tell me. I dont want to get in trouble or anything.


Posted by ChavezHype on Sep-07-2003 03:51:

for a basement party... maybe one of your friends will bust you...
Don't play out at a legit event with illegitamate material, like a club or a promotional event set-up... for a basement party with friends no one will bust you... unless your friends are music-cops.

Anyways on topic... I'll say start with TTs... any self-respected DJ will at least know how to mix with vinyl, doesn't mean you have to start with it, but you should at some point. The feel... whatever maybe if you scratch and or manhandle the record alot this might make a difference to you, but you want vinyl, i know you do, you want those underground tracks and whitelabels... dont u? The fact of the matter is, if you want to keep legit you have to either play out using mostly popular tracks or burned ones from vinyl you own, and you cant burn ones from vinyl without having a TT, so anyway what I'm saying is I started with TTs, but I plan on trying the cdjs later, that way I can buy my vinyl use it on cd and download tracks for home use that I can try in my mix and buy them later on vinyl when I can. Right now, you should just remember that vinyl is still the undergrounds format of choice, so to keep legit and get whitelabels and enjoy crate-digging like alot of DJs find as a real gratifying experience as DJs, go with vinyl first, and use cdjs later... they're excellent tools.
However at the same time, if you're just starting to practise, it's not a bad idea to use some burnt tracks just to practise with, but then once you feel confident, you're going to want to get lots of new tracks that will be available only on vinyl... and download, so you're either going to stay forever in pirate-world or move on to TTs.

It's all commentary above... just TTs now, CDJs later is one of your best options.


Posted by montie on Sep-07-2003 04:27:

therese a whole debate about this in the thread at the top of this forum.




i suggest starting on TT's. Knowing how to spin records should be the basic skill any DJ can do. Almost all good and new releases come strait on to vinyl.
Something i don't think anyone mentioned is, just haveing the experience of going to the record store and sifting through vinyls and finding stuff you like is also key to the development of your style as a DJ.
Later on down the road, i would suggest getting a CD table. They are great for those records you just can't seem to find on vinyl. And also they alow you to do so much more while you spin, like loop tracks add effects and so forth.

I'm a fan of both TT's and CD TT's. Both have their advantages and disadvanteges. and its awsome when you have both at your disposal.


Posted by DJDREO on Sep-07-2003 04:47:

THank you ChavezHype, you have just scared the crap out of me lol im jp but thanks for the info. Nah non of my friends music cops(im 15 do these basterds donteven have jobs lol). Well thanks again for the info.


Posted by tubby on Sep-07-2003 14:10:

not all downloaded music has to be illegal. Has anyone tried the new service on hooj.com? Download new and often un-pressed mixes of older tracks for 1 pound each. I haven't looked much further than to see what was available, but if the quality is ok I'll definately be using that service a bit, and I think a few other labels will do the same. especially living in oz where it's 3 weeks since I ordered from chemical records and still waiting. And the track I wanted most in that order is available on hooj.
After all, if you are prepared to use cd's you would quite likely download it for free if the labels don't sell it to you, so they aren't going to lose much selling at that sort of price per download. If I want something on vinyl i'll still pay for that.
Can anyone comment on the quality of the downloads form hooj?

tubby


Posted by DJDREO on Sep-07-2003 20:44:

I am sort of sad but i think im gonna buy all my CD's now and do something with my burned CD's. I was thinking about going with vinyl but then again i dont even have a job or turntables and i am thankful my mother got me my CD players with mixer.

Im sorry back to topic.


Posted by Digital Rain on Sep-14-2003 10:11:

In my opinion :
I know DJs that use CDs & I know DJs that use vinyl & of course I know DJs that use both . Most of them said to me that all they care about is the music that they love to play , not the medium itself . They use whatever they fell most comfortable with or whatever their "teacher" was using . Choose whatever YOU feel is your favorite medium and put all your concern into track selection , once you have chosen the right music , nobody in love with the music itself will question the medium you used . I used to think that vinyl was the "cool" thing to use but now I use vinyl , cd & cdr mediums and I get the best of al worlds , because I am able to deliver anything I want in any form I want to the people that are wiling to spend their time listening to my choice of music .



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