Audioholics - External Key (Original Mix) [Electronic Elements]

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Posted by colabus on Jul-10-2004 16:00:

Audioholics - External Key (Original Mix) [Electronic Elements]

What are your thoughts? Great progressive trance tune.

Posted by TOR on Jul-10-2004 16:01:

i wouldn't call it progressive, but you're right, amazing tune...

Posted by sigmanova on Jul-10-2004 20:18:

colabus you are fast on this one!

yes i agree with you, quite the tune, very good stuff!

Posted by m0sh on Jul-10-2004 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
i wouldn't call it progressive, but you're right, amazing tune...

that's progressive trance mate

and this is def one of the better tunes in a while...immense!

Posted by searchdestroy_1 on Jul-10-2004 23:50:

this tune is awesome pitched up at 140bpm!!

Posted by AlphaStarred on Jul-11-2004 01:39:

pretty nice...nothing original but still catchy and enjoyable to listen to. def. better than the latest probspot tunes imo

Posted by TOR on Jul-11-2004 08:36:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
that's progressive trance mate

just because it's slower than your average supersaw trance tune, doesn't make it progressive trance.

listen to ATRC (Perry O'Neil Remix) and compare.

Posted by m0sh on Jul-11-2004 09:57:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
just because it's slower than your average supersaw trance tune, doesn't make it progressive trance.

listen to ATRC (Perry O'Neil Remix) and compare.

its not just about speed and I don't need to compre it to shitty oneil mix, there's things that makes it progressive and not uplifing and frankly you don't have a clue about the basis...and what the fuck "your" average supersaw trance tune suppose to mean? damn man you got some attitude

Posted by Zharen on Jul-11-2004 10:27:

Love this tune. Definitely on my top 5 list as to date. But I'm gonna agree with m0sh and consider this progressive trance at its best. I mean listen to a couple of Leama and Moor mixes. They have a similar style to this track and you don't see anyone else arguing that their stuff isn't progressive trance. Alright, said what I had to say.

9/10

Posted by TOR on Jul-11-2004 14:20:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
its not just about speed and I don't need to compre it to shitty oneil mix, there's things that makes it progressive and not uplifing and frankly you don't have a clue about the basis...and what the fuck "your" average supersaw trance tune suppose to mean? damn man you got some attitude

so everything that's not uplifting trance is automatically progressive? interesting logic...

listen to the melody. melodic trance, easily.

same goes for Leama & Moor.

Posted by m0sh on Jul-11-2004 15:27:

don't come up with names of genres...

there's uplifiting , epic , tech , hard , tribal , deep and progressive

melodic = epic
and its not
so keep your bullshit somewhere else.

do you even know what trace means? seems like u don't.

you should know that every trance is melodic...thats the whole point,trance has layers and stuff like that and im not going to explain it right now.

so you say that e.o.s perry oneil remix is progressive trance while this isn't?
rightttt

Posted by TOR on Jul-11-2004 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
don't come up with names of genres...

there's uplifiting , epic , tech , hard , tribal , deep and progressive

melodic = epic
and its not
so keep your bullshit somewhere else.

people use epic trance as a synonym of uplifting trance (the supersaw stuff), which is a part of melodic trance. this term refers to tracks that have a main melodic sequence that sort of defines the track. this applies to External Key.

quote:
do you even know what trace means? seems like u don't.

you should know that every trance is melodic...thats the whole point,trance has layers and stuff like that and im not going to explain it right now.

LSG - Rising does not have a melody. so you're saying that's not trance?

quote:
so you say that e.o.s perry oneil remix is progressive trance while this isn't?
rightttt

my example was his remix of As the Rush Comes. i'm not familiar with his EOS remix, so i don't know if it's progressive trance or not.

Posted by m0sh on Jul-11-2004 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
people use epic trance as a synonym of uplifting trance (the supersaw stuff), which is a part of melodic trance. this term refers to tracks that have a main melodic sequence that sort of defines the track. this applies to External Key.

LSG - Rising does not have a melody. so you're saying that's not trance?

bullcrap , melody can be a main thing or a small thing and i've yet to hear rising but im sure it has kind of melody because trance has melody in every TRANCE TUNE

Posted by Rising on Jul-11-2004 16:06:

amazing tune!!..

reminds me of probspot.. which is totally progressive trance..

Posted by TOR on Jul-11-2004 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
bullcrap , melody can be a main thing or a small thing and i've yet to hear rising but im sure it has kind of melody because trance has melody in every TRANCE TUNE

good to see you have the capabilities to know something about a track before you've even heard it.

i must admit though, that it has some sort of melody.. bad example i gave there...

but for instance Intruder by Mike & Armin, which is tech-trance in my book, doesn't have a melody.

Posted by Haak on Jul-12-2004 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
damn man you got some attitude

lol, who's got the attitude?

Posted by Stephenox on Jul-12-2004 03:56:

Uhh yes, all trance has some sort of melody. Even hard trance has melody, and it might even be an epic one... but if it's hard, then it's hard. For example, Tulips & Chocolate...

Anyway, yes, I would consider External Key prog trance, not because the BPM is slow but because the melodic approach is laidback with a progressive feel. Even if a progressive song is played at a faster BPM (like External Key was in ASOT 138 XXL), you can easily tell it's progressive trance and not uplifting/epic.

Well, anyway, that's that. I don't think arguing should screw up this thread on this great song. =\

The vocals add such a great touch to the song. Even though I originally didn't like this, it did catch me, and it's a good thing to get caught by. ;-)

Posted by noikeee on Jul-12-2004 09:06:

definitely a good track.

and i would call it progressive trance as well, maybe on the uplifting side of progressive trance though

Posted by m0sh on Jul-12-2004 09:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Haak
lol, who's got the attitude?

u see me come to you and tell u , your gay mike tunes fanboy? no

Posted by SMC on Jul-12-2004 13:55:

Awesome ch00n. Great atmosphere and a nice lead that reminds me of the classic Airwave productions.

Posted by Haak on Jul-15-2004 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
u see me come to you and tell u , your gay mike tunes fanboy? no

oh, so now you're dissing people for their taste?
good job mr Pulsedriver addict