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job placement? using your talents

i am one of those that chose not to go to college and learn to use my creativity for a career.

to those that did: what did your proffesors tell you about how to break into the industry? i mean, you wont get signed immediatley out of college, so where do you promote your music?

whats the biggest field? commercials? video games? the motion picture industry?

i know several people who are involved in at least two of these industries, and maybe one day ill have a chance to get my foot into the door, but i need alot of practice still...

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Amateur Music Producers Promotion

sigh..

nice story but here is music promotion, not your goals promotion.

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Originally posted by Massive84 Amateur Music Producers Promotion sigh.. nice story but here is music promotion, not your goals promotion.

it's still somewhat related and i think that it could be an interesting topic for discussion

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Originally posted by serp it's still somewhat related and i think that it could be an interesting topic for discussion

production studio is good for discussions for the produceres.


i ain't mad or something, just saying, here is where we promote our work.

Yeah i guess that's true, the thread could be moved

yeah, now that i think of it, it doesnt realy belond here...

BUT, it would be nice if someone else like me wanted to know of a different place to promote their music.

maybe you misunderstood massive84, this IS about music promotion, especialy for amatuers...

but it sounds like this is the section where only tracks are to be promoted, not discusion about said promoting...

please move

well, to answer your question, i am not planning on producing full-time but rather as a secondary job/hobby that hopefully I can earn some money on top of my primary job... engineering (not audio) if i graduate from uni

i did music technology at college, which is nothing major, in fact to be quite honest with u i learnt fucking jack all from it, it started with the basics, and alot was theory and based on studying old music. Didnt get taught anything about breaking into the industry. but im sure its just a case of getting to know the right people, if you wana get signed then send tracks off to labels, if you want a career then go work in a studio or summin and im sure that will take u somewhre. maybe when you work your way up youll be able to afford to run your own studio where clients can come and record, or maybe youll be recognised for mixing or recording skills and hired by a big company, the music industy is hardly a small industry, its fucking massive, can you imagine the world without it? there are plenty of oportunities just try and do what u wana do. i dont think its a question of whats the easiest way to "break into it" i think its a question of what your good at, what you want to do and the oppertunities that you get. im just trying to build up some contacts and get my tracks signed, i think that could get me somewhere. and if not, then ill keep doing it as a hobby. i dont think its good to rely on music to make a career, especially if you have no quallifications or theory background, sure you can go for it and there are plenty of opertunities, but dont rely on it

mike

is it really a big problem that we are talking about goals in a promotion forum? i think its a good place because this is where people with goals cometo share their work and toughts, its really no big deal :P

Thinking of your music career is the last thing you should do. I mean, you may dream but you cannot give things up for that. Especially if you're just getting started.

I know some fellows who have the greatest ideas and they really want to start their music career and make money. Fact is, they really don't get the point, they produce like shit and they think about money instead of music. Tho they know some people in the scene, who can open some doors, i bet they'll never make as far as they would want to. And seeing this keeps me safely at the ground.

Of course I'd love to get big with music, getting signed is just a beginning, but still that would be so great. If you want to talk about dreams, yeh this is the right thread.

i dont make music for money, i make it for myself, and i dont think about money when im making tracks. but i still hope that one day it mite help me pursue a carreer relatedto what i love doing, the personal producing will still be personal and not money orientated, i think jacheatamobits meant that. Anyone whos main motivation to make music is money wont get very far

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle i dont make music for money, i make it for myself, and i dont think about money when im making tracks. but i still hope that one day it mite help me pursue a carreer relatedto what i love doing, the personal producing will still be personal and not money orientated, i think jacheatamobits meant that. Anyone whos main motivation to make music is money wont get very far

agreed. it's a great feeling to have other enjoy your music as much as you have creating it!

in art school they tell you to have something to fall back on, when you need $. (i didnt go to art school for that reason)

but realisticly, this is a hobby for me, until my skills improve.

but i take my hobbies seriously.

iv'e been playing guitar for 5 years, so i have a good knowlege of theory, built my own PC for projects of different mediums, (not just music) and owned several "toys" like the MC303, so i have a good knowlege of hardware.

those days of MC303's and turntables are over, and im looking to start promoting on the net once i get a few good tracks.

i always get stuck in the "i need more gear" mode, when what i should be telling myself is "i need more practice"

having someone to jam with is always fun, but i think i'd be better off learning by myself for now.

man, i love these forums, its so expansive here. i need to get cracking on my PC.

I'm not sure about making money from music, although it does sound great!

What I can tell you is, being in the games industry, is that it is very immature and fickle. I'd say making money out of games is possibly as difficult as making money from making records.

While there is a good deal of music getting signed up for games, these days (think GTA3) they are all big names, big well known tunes. Good luck to anybody actually getting their music on a game.

Unfortunately the games industry right now is dominated by a few companies making big hits, the rest of the companies go bust. A massive percentage of games get canned. These companies will not be a secure basis for selling your music.

There is however definitely a lot of work for sound engineers (sound fx etc.) in games.

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Originally posted by pho mo There is however definitely a lot of work for sound engineers (sound fx etc.) in games.

yeah, its like, if you dont know how to write code, it seems like it limits you opportunities, especialy in the IT field.

how much work is it to build a VSTi?

I hope I'll be able to program a synth too one day. I know how to write code, but I still don't know how I can manipulate a sound card... I guess it won't be easy though.

On topic: I don't think creating music should be a profession, but more of a hobby. If it were a job, you would probably lose your motivation in music after a while, lowering the creativity of your tracks.

By the way, I don't really think you can earn much money in the music business, unless maybe you're a world-famous Dj or something. Most of the dj's have second jobs too I guess. And even if you would earn a lot by producing/dj-ing, how long will you keep it up? I mean, in 20 years or so, trance will probably be nothing more than a memory. (Do you still see the Beatles on television?) You'll need another job to fall back on. No, I think you should keep trance as a hobby and enjoy it now, while it lasts. Look at it on the bright side: trance is here and now, and so are you!

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Originally posted by Stephano By the way, I don't really think you can earn much money in the music business, unless maybe you're a world-famous Dj or something. Most of the dj's have second jobs too I guess. And even if you would earn a lot by producing/dj-ing, how long will you keep it up? I mean, in 20 years or so, trance will probably be nothing more than a memory. (Do you still see the Beatles on television?) You'll need another job to fall back on. No, I think you should keep trance as a hobby and enjoy it now, while it lasts. Look at it on the bright side: trance is here and now, and so are you!

you can earn ALOT of money in the music business.... but probably not in the trance scene hehe

but what you said about trance only being a memory in about 20 years or so... i don't really agree.. offcourse it wount sound the same... just as the beatles.. offcourse there isn't much beatles on TV anymore.. and there will probably not be much AvB, Tiesto etc... etc... in 20 years.. but the trance style will probably just evolve.. just like every other genre does.. well.. most atleast...

but i'm 99% sure that music will only be a hobby of mine... the last 1% i leave to the chanse that i for some reason make some type of track that will give me ALOT of money so i hardly need to work anymore... but that's not a big chanse i guess... hehe
but who know's.. there's people that have made one hit track and lived on the money from it.. so the chanse isn't 0

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Originally posted by dbl you can earn ALOT of money in the music business.... but probably not in the trance scene hehe but what you said about trance only being a memory in about 20 years or so... i don't really agree.. offcourse it wount sound the same... just as the beatles.. offcourse there isn't much beatles on TV anymore.. and there will probably not be much AvB, Tiesto etc... etc... in 20 years.. but the trance style will probably just evolve.. just like every other genre does.. well.. most atleast... but i'm 99% sure that music will only be a hobby of mine... the last 1% i leave to the chanse that i for some reason make some type of track that will give me ALOT of money so i hardly need to work anymore... but that's not a big chanse i guess... hehe but who know's.. there's people that have made one hit track and lived on the money from it.. so the chanse isn't 0

i don't know tbh, i don't think trance will die or forgotten.

I think in the last 100 years, few main genres are invented, and those will stay forever.

Pop, Jazz, EDM, classical, Hihop music. and few more maybe

from these main genres, styles came out, and each day people switch from pop to trance, trance to techno, from pop to jazz maybe etc..

i think in the future people will just switch but not a genre will not die that easy.

I just make music for the sheer fun and joy of doing so, im not aiming to get signed or make money from it really! Doesnt interest me! I just love the feeling and being creative with music, and its also an amazing feeling when other people enjoy what you make!

Shep

I share your opinion in creating music because you enjoy doing so, but I also hope that someday I'll be able to get a track signed. Wouldn't it be great if you were somewhere at a party, and and then suddenly you hear *your* song being played, and you see everybody dancing on it. That has to be the ultimate kick.

@dbl:

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you can earn ALOT of money in the music business.... but probably not in the trance scene hehe

I was talking about the trance scene only before. Of course people making music in other styles can earn alot; just think of pop or rock concerts and so on.

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Originally posted by Stephano Wouldn't it be great if you were somewhere at a party, and and then suddenly you hear *your* song being played, and you see everybody dancing on it. That has to be the ultimate kick.

I'd go nutsss.

It's the greatest to see that people enjoy your music. It motivates, makes you want to make more more more

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