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How Do You Manage UR PLAYLIST!

hi guys,

I believe all the DJ in this world always manage their list before they go up stage... even Tiesto does it before i guess...

I mean like... the 1st song and to the closing song...

example of mine:

1. A1. Scot Project � Feelin Me
2. B1. Tiesto � Love Come Again (Mark Norman Mix)
3. A2. Cern � The Message
4. B2. Chemistry - Desire
5. A3. Aplhazone � Ravelation (ClubMix)
6. B3. Climax69 - Ambience
7. A4. Cosmic Gate - Ultra Curve
8. B4. Tiesto � Lethal Industries (Richard & John Bass Mix)
9. A5. Yoji � Theme From Bangingglobe (System F)
10. B5. NuNRG - Connective
11. A6. Sam Sharp � Twister
12. B6. Binary Finary - 2004
13. A7. Matt Darrey - Possesed
14. B7. Raptor � There will be light Mixed3
15. A8. Blank N jones � zero gravity (envoi)
16. B8. Matt Hadrick � Day One
17. A9. Envio � Touch By sun

I will use this as my sets... My climax is from track 3 to 9
SO is it good? what do u guys think?
and HOW DO YOU REALLY MANAGE IT?! Anyone?

i don't, sounds far too roboto

Too roboto.. sorry i dont get what is "Roboto"... do u mean is "monotone" It is not good to use list beside u or had ur vinyl lineup??

Please tell me.. hehe..
cause im a beginner DJ who had just qualified in pitch bending.. and i will give a shot in a club

THNX

Re: How Do You Manage UR PLAYLIST!

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Originally posted by DJ Dinz hi guys, I believe all the DJ in this world always manage their list before they go up stage... even Tiesto does it before i guess... I mean like... the 1st song and to the closing song...

I very highly doubt anyone plans any set beforehand. That would be pretty damn boring, really, if the DJ didn't react to the audience's feelings at all.

I'm sure the most will only plan the first few tunes and possibly the closer, the rest will follow naturally depending on the vibe.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I very highly doubt anyone plans any set beforehand. That would be pretty damn boring, really, if the DJ didn't react to the audience's feelings at all. I'm sure the most will only plan the first few tunes and possibly the closer, the rest will follow naturally depending on the vibe.

You hit the nail on the head...

I tryed pre-planning my sets for about a week, and finally said "FUCK THIS"... it wasn't interesting to me anymore, it got so boring, and I didn't really get to experiment and try new things.. I haven't played in a club yet.. err.. for a crowd of a real size.. but for me, when I am spinning I go off my own vibe, and how I am feeling.. Usually the ends of my sets are CRAP cuz I am goin nutz dancin around my room, and in correalation, forget that I am actually DJing..

Try spinning a set just on feelings alone, and I garuntee it will be better than anything you can pre-plan...

nope

it mostly just depends on the energy of the crowd. i've never played out yet but i guess djs have a vague idea of what they want to play judging by the energy feel.. but then again it might change half way thru their set so things might not go as planned. pre planned sets never work. i've seen some djs use it and it is sooo boring.

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Originally posted by DJ Dinz Too roboto.. sorry i dont get what is "Roboto"... do u mean is "monotone" It is not good to use list beside u or had ur vinyl lineup?? Please tell me.. hehe.. cause im a beginner DJ who had just qualified in pitch bending.. and i will give a shot in a club THNX

i was gonna type robotic, but roboto sounded cool lol

i have a rough idea of what kind of set i want to play when i go out through the vinyl i select to play, however, i have often changed my set completely to the initial basic idea of what i was going to play when i get there because of the dj on before me, the venue, and the crowd

Actually, contrary to popular belief a lot of the major guys do plan. Sasha for one, It's been said that Armin does too.
But you have to keep in mind that they can afford to do so because they get to headline and people expect to hear certain songs from them. Not to mention a certain standard. They also play venues where reading the crowd is perhaps less important as people are already geared up for what the DJ will do. It's different when you play at a local club as sometimes people come out and don't always want to be there.

But to get to that standard you have to learn to read crowds and work the dancefloor so get rid of any ideas of doing a pre programmed set anytime soon.
Learn to interact with people and pay your dues.

Cheers
Nem

sometimes pre-planning can be mistaken for just experience.

If someone like Tiesto or Armin drops 4 tunes in order A-B-C-D @ Amnesia and the crowd goes right off...

its likely the next time they get record A out of the bag... they'll remember it goes so well with record B... and the order will repeat itself.

The same with if the Dj likes a certain mix - the ever expectant backspin between Flight 643 and Fancy Fair when Tiesto mixed these in 2001/02...

As well as certain tunes sticking to a certain dj.. certain mixes will as well. at the moment i think Tiesto's belongs between the new G&D Remix of Evanescence - Hello and his own Traffic. But surely u can understand that there is more to it that playing a set of records u've already planned - that would mean at some point in a gig u'll look like a spacker...

cos the crowd will wanna go one way - when u go the other.

its just a matter of time.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! But surely u can understand that there is more to it that playing a set of records u've already planned - that would mean at some point in a gig u'll look like a spacker... cos the crowd will wanna go one way - when u go the other. its just a matter of time.

couldn't have put it better myself

i would only really ever plan the last tune in a set. you need to know that the last tune is going to stick in peoples heads and make them want more (which you should duly give if the bouncers will let u, and you can't plan that ). i dont even see how you can realistically plan your first tune until you have heard what the dj before you has ended his/her set with, unless of course you are warming up, in which case nobody will care that much, there will be about 10-20 ppl there for it

spontaneity (courtesy of dictionary.com) is the key, and it will ultimatly give better results!

I have a huge problem with track selection. In my mind it sounds like a match made in heaven but when I put it on it doesn't quite sound like what I intended it to sound like.

Programming a tracklist according to 'feelings' and crowd reactions is all good, but as a dj confined to my bedroom I find it hard to work the 'crowd reactions' part, which I think contributes as a huge factor in what tracklist programming is all about.

I long to play in front of a trance-loving crowd and see what this crowd reaction thingy is all about.

Maybe when I finally get to play out, it will all fall into place.

Could u please tell me how u start with scot project and end with envio?
just dosen't make sense

it does make sense. its just different to how you would do it.

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Originally posted by rafale I have a huge problem with track selection. In my mind it sounds like a match made in heaven but when I put it on it doesn't quite sound like what I intended it to sound like.

I agree with this!! I often put together a set of tunes which I think will go great together. But for some reason they don't sound right - maybe I did the transition too early or too late. Or sometimes they just clash. Surely you don't want to find this out when you're playing out in a club??!!

I'm not saying totally pre-plan a set from start to finish (which I have done in the past and it went fine - everyone enjoyed it )

I think its a good idea to have a few different ways to start your mix, e.g. if the person on before is playing trance/tech-house/prog then use some similar tunes to bring it round to what you want to play. But after say 4 tunes I would play the stuff that I wanted to. Once I got round to playing my true style then i would know where i wanted to go with my set already. Maybe i'm wrong but its just a different opinion

How Do You Manage UR PLAYLIST!?

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Originally posted by DJ Dinz I believe all the DJ in this world always manage their list before they go up stage... even Tiesto does it before i guess... I mean like... the 1st song and to the closing song...

I highly doubt Tiesto plans any of his sets. Like MichaelBoogerd! mentioned above.. I'm sure Tiesto has certain mixes that he knows go well with each other and chooses to mix those tunes together each and everytime he plays them. However, I know for a fact that he doesn't plan out his entire playlist like you've done above. The reason I know is because it is not uncommon for him to spin a six hour set. It would be impossible to memorize the tracklisting of over seventy songs.

But the most important part is being spontaneous. Without reading the crowd you will never make it as a good dj. You need to feed off your audience in order to pick your next track. Tiesto is so damn popular that he could play just about anything and still be praised as an awesome dj. But for beginners, like you and me, it is imperative to read the crowd and adjust your set to the needs of your audience.

pEy

Wow... n Ok i really get what u guys mean

THNX! Maybe i would plan for the 1st to 4th song after that go with the flow...

But I would like to change the topic now

DO YOU MANAGE UR DEMO DISC??
I want to give demo to some clubs...
So must i manage it or just go with what i want to put in after this and that??????

Sorry for Asking and asking, because a DEMO sets there will be no crowd to read...

THNX guys

some people would, and it is something you can get away with. my personal preference is to not plan any set, so when i do a demo i just do it straight off. i'm not the most succesful dj in the world () but i have sent demo's out twice, and got 3 gigs from them.. so it works for me

presentation is also very important with demo's.. make a decent looking cover and print a tracklist, it will make your cd stand out a bit from others

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