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Upgrading suxs balls

Allright you know how you always get those people at the begging that dont listen to advice and get a crappy set up, i was one of em. iv since upgraded a bit. but its still a bitch, even now my mixer is still complete shit and its gonna be a long time befor a get a actual good setup this shit pisses me off

Yeah, I'm really really really glad I just sold my soul for the money, and paid out the ass to buy my Techs and a semi-decent mixer. Still need to upgrade that though.

Yea I went oddly...

got 2 top of the line brand spankin' new Technics 1210M5G decks, and a cruddy Behringer VMX300. ASAP I'm getting an Allen&Heath Xone92

yea i got a behringewr djx700. what a piece of shit. dont know what one to get next though. i was thinking of a pioneer djm600. because it has -26db cut. my behringer has -32 db cut and its just too much, and its sometimes hard to set it to sound rite. and there is no way in hell i can get the xone 92. it nbeeds to be 4 channel as well. i really like the look of the new denon one as well. just havent looked at its db cut.

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Originally posted by SgtFoo Yea I went oddly... got 2 top of the line brand spankin' new Technics 1210M5G decks, and a cruddy Behringer VMX300. ASAP I'm getting an Allen&Heath Xone92

damn, your not playing around going for the 92. As soon as you get it, you'll forget about the large chunk of money you just blew and just enjoy it. As for the Berhinger, throw it off a bridge and watch it explode.

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ yea i got a behringewr djx700. what a piece of shit. dont know what one to get next though. i was thinking of a pioneer djm600. because it has -26db cut. my behringer has -32 db cut and its just too much, and its sometimes hard to set it to sound rite. and there is no way in hell i can get the xone 92. it nbeeds to be 4 channel as well. i really like the look of the new denon one as well. just havent looked at its db cut.

You won't go wrong with the Denon, its a nice mixer.

Well, I started out buying POS tables and mixer, but instead spent the money on kick ass speakers (JBL25s) and an amp (Crown CE2000), and I'm still happy with that decision. Sure upgrading sucks, but I think I made up for it.

Hmmmm, I would generally agree that getting anything but Techs (or at the very least comparable quality decks by another brand) is a bad idea, but I haven't really regretted my choice in mixers all the much.

I have a Behringer VMX-200, and I would consider it to be the bare minimum necessary in order to mix trance (in terms of having reasonably decent EQs and such), but I haven't really had all that much urge to buy a newer/bigger/better mixer yet.

I think it is really important to start out with Technics (not CDs), a decent mixer and *comfortable* headphones.

If you get the Technics on eBay you can always resell them for what you paid. I just sold a set for $700. Even if you get them new you are only going to loose $150 if you resell them. While other brands probably make decks of equal quality they aren�t going to have the same resell power that the Technics will.

The first mixer I had was useless. I didn�t enjoy learning. After about 3 months my roommate bought a used DJM-300. You can get these thing used on eBay for ~$150 and they really are awesome for the price. Suddenly mixing was fun and I wanted to play all the time. Mixing on a crapping mixer will make you want a quit, it almost got me.

I started with some Sony headphones that hurt my head over an hour or so. When they broke I got some Pioneers and man life was good. They were great and I would play for hours and hours with them and never felt any discomfort.

I know all this stuff costs money but for around $1000US you can get great gear that you can always resell for around the same amount. I think it's worth it.

Keith

While I definitely agree that it's good to not start out with crappy equipment, I have to disagree with some of you guys when you say it's necessary to start out with Technics and such. I've got two Numark TT-200s and a Numark PPD-01, and quite frankly I think they work quite well for my needs. I'm currently hoping to get a couple CDJ-800s in the next few months, then some good speakers, then a Rane Empath, then who knows... but all that notwithstanding, my point remains that though I haven't started with "industry standard" equipment, I'm nevertheless rather happy with what I do have.

well iv been on gemini decks for about 2 years and grasped all the baiscs on them now so i think to make my mixing go up a level i need some technics..so will buy a pair end of aug

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Originally posted by jwear2004 While I definitely agree that it's good to not start out with crappy equipment, I have to disagree with some of you guys when you say it's necessary to start out with Technics and such. I've got two Numark TT-200s and a Numark PPD-01, and quite frankly I think they work quite well for my needs. I'm currently hoping to get a couple CDJ-800s in the next few months, then some good speakers, then a Rane Empath, then who knows... but all that notwithstanding, my point remains that though I haven't started with "industry standard" equipment, I'm nevertheless rather happy with what I do have.

As long as your happy with your gear, and you want to mix with it, thats all that matters...you don't need the best of everything to enjoy mixing, just as long as its good enough for the task and your style.

yeah i regret the mixer i bought. i did start with techs and am so happy that i did that. and i guess id rather have a crap mixer than crap TTs. new mixer coming soon. probably an A&H 62 or 92

my regret was buying american dj pro dj 3 cd players... i should have bought the cdj 100s instead. i had the pro dj 3s for about a year then sold them on ebay bought 100s and ive been set.

as for TTs i went straight for the mk5s with whitelabels. Im still happy with my mixer, vestax pmc 170a, its still a trooper but i'd like to upgrade sometime. only gripe i have is not being able to hear EQ changes while cueing other than that its lasted me 4yrs w/o any problems.

i am totally glad that i started on a shit setup. i started with numark tt1650's and a numark dm3002ex mixer, with pants numark headphones.

i am now safe in the knowledge that if i can put a set together on them, i can put a set together on fucking anything! i am one of these people that has the opinion that its better to learn on shit stuff, it gives you experience in things that more expensive stuff wouldn't give you. if you have mixed on technics all your life, you won't know how much attention you should give each record. a baby can operate them, so you will learn beatmatching better on a shit setup, then when you do move up to playing on proffesional equipment, you will be shit hot!

if anything, i think its more important to shell out on a good mixer at first.

You haven't started on shit until you've started on Beginner DJ package from gemini. Cost $200 which I thought was a good deal and it came with 2 shit ass belt driven turns, horrible 2 channel basic mixer, the crappiest needles and crappy street style headphones. Needless to say, I returned that box of cow poo and promptly spent a grand on two new 1200's, some decent stanton carts, a shitty gemini 626 mixer and v700's. Two years later and 4 grand more, I find myself sitting on much better equipment...albeit with 4 grand more of credit card debt.

Moral of this story - even if you start off with the best or upgrade, you will be paying A LOT of money, just maybe a bit less in the long run if u dont end up upgrading.

another moral of your story, is if you are going to buy a shit setup, at least get shit direct drive turntables

currently Im using two gemini TT (belt drive) and I can beatmatch on them, the only thing that limts me from doing a good set is that my mixer doesnt have low/high/middle knobs so I doesnt sound so good. If I can beatmatch on this setup I can beatmatch on everthing

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Originally posted by Polak currently Im using two gemini TT (belt drive) and I can beatmatch on them, the only thing that limts me from doing a good set is that my mixer doesnt have low/high/middle knobs so I doesnt sound so good. If I can beatmatch on this setup I can beatmatch on everthing

Am i understanding what youre saying correctly? Your mixer doesnt have EQ? What model/brand is that? I've never seen a mixer with no EQ... Does it just have a crossfader and two up faders?

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Am i understanding what youre saying correctly? Your mixer doesnt have EQ? What model/brand is that? I've never seen a mixer with no EQ... Does it just have a crossfader and two up faders?

This is the same exact model

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=23785

It has Bass and Treble knobs BUT they work for both channels LOL so Im not using them at all. Like I said before i got it for free and its good for start, its better to learn at a crappy setup.

I got two of those badboys LOL



my headphones HAHHAHA

Well, you can only go up from there. And mixing is only going to get easier.

Started with Gemini (turntables), Behringer (mixer), and some cheap-ass cd-player, and i now have Technics, Dateq, and Numark.

I went the patient route and saved for about 22 months straight to get my setup one piece at a time (completed it a couple of months back). I didn't want to end up having to upgrade, so I bought a modest but awesome mixer, Allen & Heath Xone:32, then an MK5, then another MK5. I user Senny HD280's and a pair of whitelabels and I wouldn't have it any other way! Regarding the reselling potential of technics decks, I always saw that as a null point because I have no idea why I'd ever want to sell my technics... unless I moved country (the dumbass american version is 110volt ONLY )

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