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Posted by Clovis on Jul-20-2004 21:31:

Lost In Translation

Just got my DVD in the mail...I watched the film again just now...

This is one of the best movies I have seen in quite awhile. I don't know why. I know alot of people thought it sucked. It doesn't really have a solid plot...but its just different. Alot of it is pure comedy with Murray...but the parts with Scarlett Johanson are more...deep? lol...its hard to describe. Anyway, I like the idea of being in some foreign metropolis and meeting new friends...

Good Movie imo...refreshing change.

-Clovis


Posted by Jackson on Jul-20-2004 21:42:

Some people just dont like change from the norm i guess.
I saw the film and was very bored at first, but as i began to understand the characters boredom and lonliness i really got into it.
I probably give it 4 out of 5! A good contempary film.


Posted by PinkChicken on Jul-20-2004 21:44:

yeah i loved the movie...i fell asleep the first time i watched it at a friends house..but the next morning my friend made me watch it and it was great


Posted by Clovis on Jul-20-2004 22:08:

There are so many hilarious little jokes in it...like when Murray is in the hospital and he goes by some guy with a bandage over his eyebrow, he goes "Switched to beer huh?"



-Clovis (well I thought it was funny... )


Posted by Mr. Pink on Jul-20-2004 22:18:

Rasta

I thought the movie was great.

funny, but not the usual 'funny'.

and scarlett shes rox0rs my box0rs


Posted by UWM on Jul-20-2004 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink

and scarlett shes rox0rs my box0rs


Yeah, she's absolutely stunning.

I'd give this movie a thumbs up too, I didn't expect anything going into it or even know the basic premise of it and I was pleasantly surprised.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-20-2004 22:34:

Seriously Mr. Pink...she's beautiful And not anorexic...

-Clovis


Posted by idoru on Jul-20-2004 22:36:

I was forced to watch it. It looked like it would be more of a 'chick-flick', but hell, it's Bill Murray, so I didn't put up a fight. I do have to say that it is a good movie, though.


Posted by fitom tiel on Jul-20-2004 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Yeah, she's absolutely stunning.

I'd give this movie a thumbs up too, I didn't expect anything going into it or even know the basic premise of it and I was pleasantly surprised.


best of all, she's 19

movie depicts the expatriate experience pretty well. then again, it's true that most people you get stuck with are like Kelly and that hip-hop guy, but you get your occasional main characters who really turn out to be the main characters in your experience. so, yes, thumbs up.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-20-2004 22:41:

I really like the end too. I've had that happen to me so many times...where I know someone for quite awhile, but once I really get to know them...all of a sudden, just when I realize how much I like them...I either move or leave for somewhere...

Then we never email. Then we forget. Then the same thing happens again with someone else...

-Clovis


Posted by daydreamer on Jul-20-2004 22:42:

<----- loves Lost in Transalation
<----- loves scarlett


Posted by UWM on Jul-20-2004 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by fitom tiel
best of all, she's 19



She is?! I had no idea. She's especially beautiful IMO because, as was mentioned before, she's not a super-skinny, rail-thin 'super model' type - very naturally pretty.


Posted by idoru on Jul-20-2004 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
She is?! I had no idea. She's especially beautiful IMO because, as was mentioned before, she's not a super-skinny, rail-thin 'super model' type - very naturally pretty.


Amen to that.


Posted by astroboy on Jul-21-2004 00:10:

Re: Lost In Translation

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
I know alot of people thought it sucked. It doesn't really have a solid plot...but its just different.


These people really give me the shits. Why does a movie have to have a solid plot to be good. Really how often does real life correspond to the formulaic Hollywood plot, with major episodes defined with a clear beginning middle and end? Almost never.[/rant]

Anyway this film is great. I think its about more than the expat experience. To me it's about alienation in general, Japan is just a microcosm of the entire world. They are just two people trying to find their way in life, reaching a kind of crossroads and finding comfort in each other.


Posted by [ groovypants ] on Jul-21-2004 00:15:

I loved the sense of solitude in the movie - being so remote from every thing that you are used to yet because of this there is a sense of tranquility and calmness.

Great movie, I too have the DVD.

Oh and the Matthew segment is just a total crackup


Posted by Clovis on Jul-21-2004 00:17:

In fact...the very fact that the plot is as random as reality is why I like the film so much. I wish more people weren't so sucked into to the cheesy box office blow outs...

-Clovis


Posted by Arbiter on Jul-21-2004 00:22:

Re: Re: Lost In Translation

Moving somewhere new and having to adjust isn't a real conflict, and a movie with no conflict is like a whore with no holes.

Maybe it appeals to people who can identify with the characters, but I can't, so it doesn't. Waste of my money and my time, but if you can get enjoyment out of it then good for you.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-21-2004 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by [ groovypants ]
I loved the sense of solitude in the movie - being so remote from every thing that you are used to yet because of this there is a sense of tranquility and calmness.

Great movie, I too have the DVD.

Oh and the Matthew segment is just a total crackup


I also like Bill and his Japanese Phrasebook... "Do you know who you're talking to?"

-Clovis


Posted by astroboy on Jul-21-2004 01:20:

Re: Re: Re: Lost In Translation

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Moving somewhere new and having to adjust isn't a real conflict, and a movie with no conflict is like a whore with no holes.

Maybe it appeals to people who can identify with the characters, but I can't, so it doesn't. Waste of my money and my time, but if you can get enjoyment out of it then good for you.


Well, I'm not sure what you mean by conflict, but the characters are not really trying to adjust to Japan. This is what I think people miss about the film. In the long run, its not about Japan at all. Japan serves as the backdrop and a catalyst for the true issues. They are alienated by life, rather than by the country. Bill's character mourns half a life past with its wasted opportunities he wonders about the life he has created for himself with hid decisions; Scarlett's character is overwhelmed by impending decisions, and what kind of life she wants to create for herself.
I think you are right in identifying this as a character-driven rather than plot-driven film. And if by conflict you were referring the old formula for plot-driven films, where there is the creation of a major conflict at the start of the film and a resolution at the end... I think, personally, I'd rather do without it... To take your analogy, to me that would be like soliciting a prostitute and finding holes where they really shouldn't be.


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Jul-21-2004 05:50:

Re: Re: Re: Lost In Translation

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Moving somewhere new and having to adjust isn't a real conflict, and a movie with no conflict is like a whore with no holes.



how is moving to somewhere like japan where the culture is completely different in all aspects of your life that you were use to in america or whever you came from not a conflict? what exactly is your definition of conflict? does it always have to be getting chased after by macho badguys with guns? give me a break

and i did enjoy the movie...your attitude seems like that if you're someone who enjoyed it you're a loser with your "good for you" statement


Posted by ricky on Jul-21-2004 06:58:

quite a funny movie.

btw, anyone hear about scarlett being in the next mission impossible movie? kinda weird- she's hot, but donno if that part would suit her.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-21-2004 14:59:

quote:
btw, anyone hear about scarlett being in the next mission impossible movie? kinda weird- she's hot, but donno if that part would suit her.


Ugh..hope she wouldn't tarnish her image of a great actress by doing something stupid like that.

-Clovis


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jul-21-2004 15:40:

Thumbs up

Lost In Translation is Metrosexual Alliance approved.


Posted by Slylee on Jul-21-2004 15:45:

it's one of my favorites as well. when i rented it for the first time, i bought it after i returned it and every now and then i watch it. i think i've seen it like 5 times already.


Posted by USMC_Greg on Jul-21-2004 17:18:

Watched the movie, was a little disappointed. But was bareable.

I enjoyed the comedic part of the movie.


IMO, the movie was an attack on commercialism and the post-industrial economy.


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