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Posted by Shudder on Jul-23-2004 04:00:

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I was just looking at an album I had, Bt's Movement in still life album and saw that it had Fibonacci Sequence. My question is would it be legal if i copied the track from the album onto a cdr?

Posted by R.j. on Jul-23-2004 04:01:

Re: Question

quote:
Originally posted by Shudder
I was just looking at an album I had, Bt's Movement in still life album and saw that it had Fibonacci Sequence. My question is would it be legal if i copied the track from the album onto a cdr?

as long as you dont copy it to sell it.

Posted by auujay on Jul-23-2004 04:06:

It is legal to make a copy for yourself. However if you want to make a CDR to play on your CDJs why not just use the original CD?

Posted by `pr0digy on Jul-23-2004 05:50:

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Originally posted by auujay
It is legal to make a copy for yourself.

Unless the CD is copyprotected * at all *. If your country has a DMCA type law, it's illegal to bypass the protection, no matter how simple, no matter if it's fair-use or not.

Posted by R.j. on Jul-23-2004 06:59:

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Originally posted by `pr0digy
Unless the CD is copyprotected * at all *. If your country has a DMCA type law, it's illegal to bypass the protection, no matter how simple, no matter if it's fair-use or not.

BUT, as one of my dads friend who is a lawyer, all you gotta say its your "back-up" like auujay said, and you dont sell it, and you'll have no problem with da LAW

Posted by `pr0digy on Jul-23-2004 15:24:

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Originally posted by R.j.
BUT, as one of my dads friend who is a lawyer, all you gotta say its your "back-up" like auujay said, and you dont sell it, and you'll have no problem with da LAW

Nope, still illegal, at least in the US, or any other country with a DMCA type law.

Posted by auujay on Jul-23-2004 16:51:

He is right. If there is copyprotection, anything you do to bypass it is illigal (because of the DMCA).

Posted by DJ Joshua H on Jul-23-2004 18:24:

I believe that it is technically illegal to make a copy of a CD although no one will care or know about it if you use it for yourself.

I'm not sure what the law is in Canada. It may also be that if it is copyrighted in the United States then US laws would apply no matter where the copying took place.

yes the DMCA does make it illegal to override encryption/security measures, but I dont know that cd's have this encryption on them yet. What I mean is that you can burn a CD with no problem and not have to break an encryption code to do so.

Posted by auujay on Jul-23-2004 23:16:

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Originally posted by DJ Joshua H
I believe that it is technically illegal to make a copy of a CD although no one will care or know about it if you use it for yourself.

Fair use allows you to copy it for yourself

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Joshua H
yes the DMCA does make it illegal to override encryption/security measures, but I dont know that cd's have this encryption on them yet. What I mean is that you can burn a CD with no problem and not have to break an encryption code to do so.

The CDs are not encrypted, they are "copy-protected". Usually it is something that allows the CD to play in stand alone players but not work in a computer. One of the early copy protection schemes could be defeated by simply marking the edge of the CD with a sharpie. Another one could be defeated by disabling auto-play (this is with a windows pc). These are two ways of "circumventing" the copy protection which is explicitly forbidden by the DMCA.

Posted by `pr0digy on Jul-24-2004 02:18:

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Originally posted by auujay
One of the early copy protection schemes could be defeated by simply marking the edge of the CD with a sharpie. Another one could be defeated by disabling auto-play (this is with a windows pc). These are two ways of "circumventing" the copy protection which is explicitly forbidden by the DMCA.

I believe the RIAA even thought about suing the person who released the "hold shift when you insert cd" idea.

Posted by progressivepey on Jul-24-2004 06:51:

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Posted by Luke Cartwright on Jul-25-2004 18:30:

If you bought the CD there should be no problem as long as the copy is for yourself.

Its the same as taping it, for example if you dont have a cd player in your car you need another copy.

Posted by Nic on Jul-26-2004 03:22:

since when did the RIAA care about trance music anyway?