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Posted by estes on Jul-23-2004 13:49:

mixing - extracting vocals

hey all...i should be getting turntables soon. and would like to know a simple question for all of you...since i'm not to familiar of what the capabilities of the mixer are. i would like to know if you could extract just the vocals of a song? the idea i have would be to have just the beats on one record and then take the vocals from another. not sure if this is only possible through computer equipment. or if i would need one record to be acapella and the other to be an instrumental. i apologize if this is a dumb question.

regards....

Posted by Trance Nutter on Jul-23-2004 14:32:

Not possible, but what you can do is take the beats from one track, and the ENTIRE higher end frequencies from the other track, ie one track's bass range with another track' melody and vocals, which are usually the high range frequencies. (hope that makes sense)

Don't try to do that straight away though, being able to beatmatch for more than a short time will take plenty of practice!!

Posted by Max Thomson on Jul-23-2004 14:34:

It is impossible for a bread and butter DJ mixer to isolate a range of particular frequencies that happen to be vocals within a sound. Learn a bit about the way sound is produced and isolated during mixing and you'll understand (I'm just too lazy to explain it right now).

Posted by tu_face on Jul-23-2004 15:58:

the closest you will get with any dj mixer is if you turn down the hi and the low of the track you want the vocals from (if a mixer has kill switches it will be more effective). this will cut out most of the drums and leave in the mid range sounds, which vocals usually fall within

Posted by estes on Jul-23-2004 16:12:

thakns for the replies all....enlight in what everyone has mentioned...it seems that i woudln't get the desired affect. my next question is, would i be able to obtain acapellas of most songs on records? for exmaple if i wanted to put like michael jackson's vocals to some dance mix...is it hard to obtain his vocals only?

maybe this would be more for cd tables. where i could burn vocals on one cd and instrumentals on another...however i think vinyl is more fun and seems to be more of true dj'ing (didn't mean to offend anyone if im way off on that comment..im willing to bet it's a highly debated topic)

Posted by DJ Joshua H on Jul-23-2004 18:18:

one thing that you should think about when playing vocals from one track with basslines from another is that you will eventually need to mix out into a new record which means that you will need to probably fade out the record being used for the vocals and use that turntable for then next track, unless you have 3 tt's whick can take time to get used to.

Another way is to get a sampler or a mixer with a built in sampler that can record and loop the vocals over and over if thats what you want. most cd players can loop as well.

I'm not sure where you can get just a capellas if the label doesn't normally sell them, the only thing that I can think of is that maybe some big name producers/remixers can get these things but i dont know about anyone else. does anyone have an answer to this?

Posted by Tranc3 on Jul-23-2004 19:03:

Sometimes the a capellas are on the B side of the record, but that's more of a thing of the past nowadays.