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Posted by Rownin on Jul-24-2004 19:10:

Arrow The Ultimate Beginning Equipment

Im looking for a nice equipment basicly for practice

2 cd players and a mixer

My budget is between 2000-4000 NIS ( 500$-900$ )

I saw so many threads about the behringer and its bad performance
now im not looking for the top gear , im looking for a nice starting equipment that can offer me the basic things (not all the effects and..)

so , should i buy a behringer mixer that can offer me what im looking for in a reasonable price or its just dont worth it?

please tell me what do u think

And about the CD players , what do you think i should buy?


Posted by benoitfan on Jul-24-2004 19:16:

2 cds and a mixer... I'd have to say 2 new or used CDJ-100s (since they work great, although the jog-wheel can loose some response, as it happened to one of mines) and a Behringer (yes) VMX-300. At least I started with that setup, 2 years ago, and don't look back. Great mixer for its price, had no problem whatsoever and I mix nearly everyday. I still don't understand what all this hate towards Behringer is about, but at least my product works great but maybe you'd like to try some other mixers first, though I doubt that you'll find anything in the low budget range as good as this. Go for the CDJ-100s, they are great cd players, cheap, and the effects are cool to mess around since you'll have a mixer with no fx.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jul-24-2004 22:43:

The title of this thread sounds like an oxymoron to me.


Posted by `pr0digy on Jul-25-2004 04:05:

If you look on ebay you can find more solid mixers than behringer for the same price, IMHO.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-25-2004 04:07:

a Vestax PCV 275 with 2 pioneer CDJ 100's will be what you are looking for....


Posted by Rownin on Jul-26-2004 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
a Vestax PCV 275 with 2 pioneer CDJ 100's will be what you are looking for....


the PCV 275 is abit expensive . especially at our country

i think ill go for the 2 CDJ 100 and the VMX-300


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-27-2004 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Rownin
the PCV 275 is abit expensive . especially at our country

i think ill go for the 2 CDJ 100 and the VMX-300


If I were you, get that Berhinger out of your head, and break open your penny jar and get the PCV 275. You'll be sorry if you waste your hard earned cash on that junk. better to save up a little longer and get quality bro...


Posted by dj chex on Jul-27-2004 20:42:

Agree, buying a behringer is like playing russian roulette. You may get a nice one that works or you may get something that will blow up on you. I would look at either a pair of numark axis9's (really it's a good cd deck trust me i own and use mine all the time) and a ecler concept 2 or 3 mixer, or a pair of cdj-100s and a pcv-275.


Posted by YellowG555 on Jul-27-2004 21:03:

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have my PCV-275 for sale.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=197798


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-27-2004 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by YellowG555
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have my PCV-275 for sale.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=197798


You damn ambulance chaser get outta here...lol Just playing bro, there you go Rownin, thats what your looking for.


Posted by djsphere on Jul-30-2004 15:21:

Why shuld he buy a 3 ch mixer if he's gonna use only 2 cd players.
What about tascam xs-3. (aprox. 150$)


Posted by tu_face on Jul-30-2004 15:35:

to be perfectly honest, the cdj100 is way too over-priced. you can get more useful cd decks for cheaper. have a look at the numark axis9, here it is about �30 cheaper and it has loads more cool and useful features. for example, the axis 9 has scratching (4 types of), scratch start as opposed to stutter start, 2 seamless loops, hot cueing (dont know if the cdj100 has that) 12 effects inc echo, chop, pan, flange, SLEEP!!! (not many cd decks have this function, its a reverse function, but jumps the tune back to where it would have been had you not pressed it), phaze + more... start/stop speed adjustment (as in like a brake adjustment on a deck, it slows the tune down slower or faster), touch sensetive jog-wheel.

at the end of the day, the cdj100 will probably last longer, but other than that IMO the axis9 is just better value for money for a low-end cd deck.


Posted by Rownin on Jul-30-2004 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
to be perfectly honest, the cdj100 is way too over-priced. you can get more useful cd decks for cheaper. have a look at the numark axis9, here it is about �30 cheaper and it has loads more cool and useful features. for example, the axis 9 has scratching (4 types of), scratch start as opposed to stutter start, 2 seamless loops, hot cueing (dont know if the cdj100 has that) 12 effects inc echo, chop, pan, flange, SLEEP!!! (not many cd decks have this function, its a reverse function, but jumps the tune back to where it would have been had you not pressed it), phaze + more... start/stop speed adjustment (as in like a brake adjustment on a deck, it slows the tune down slower or faster), touch sensetive jog-wheel.

at the end of the day, the cdj100 will probably last longer, but other than that IMO the axis9 is just better value for money for a low-end cd deck.


sounds good , plus dont forget that this equipment is so expensive in our country , for exp:
the pcv-180 costs �225.00 in the uk (1240 NIS) , Here it costs �410!!! (2250 NIS) , the cd-100's �265.00 - uk (1460 NIS),
and ofcourse here it costs �380 (2100 NIS) , so its impossible to find here a nice quality equipment in a nice price


Posted by Rownin on Jul-30-2004 19:00:

about the numark axis 9 , the price difference is not a big deal
the question is , does it worth it?
i mean all the extra things that tu face mentioned is a big diffrence?
and about the quality , is it good as pioneers?


Posted by tu_face on Jul-30-2004 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Rownin
about the numark axis 9 , the price difference is not a big deal
the question is , does it worth it?
i mean all the extra things that tu face mentioned is a big diffrence?
and about the quality , is it good as pioneers?


i think it is a big difference, because the cdj100 is so bare & the effects are the worst choice they could have made out of the pioneer effects units. i would chose it purely for the scratch start (stutter start REALLY gets on my tits) & touch sensetive jog wheel if nothing else

as i said, the pioneer will be a bit more heavy duty and will ultimatly have better build quality. but at the end of the day when you are buying low end equipment, 9/10 you will be upgrading your setup after a year or so. if the axis9 doesn't last that year, take the thing back on the warranty

plus i forgot to mention about the beatkeeper III in the axis9. it is widely regarded as the best beat counter on the market, which means the beat effects and seamless (smart) loops are fantastic!

to conclude: you can do a whole load of crazy shit with the axis9 that you couldn't even dream of doing using a cdj100


Posted by Rownin on Jul-30-2004 23:57:

sounds good to me , thanks ya



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