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Posted by RobSolaris on Jul-25-2004 23:40:

Party Hat what do you guys look for when purchasing a CD? what makes it interesting ;)

If this has been discuss before, sorry.

a owner of a record labeler
has told me, that dj CD's complications
Gets harder and harder to sell by the day�
Its not what it use to be in the late 90s.

So I�m wondering�..why is that so? what ever happen to good old cd's?
1) Is it because it cost too much $ for the cd/shipping? (ie the cd is not available in your country)
2) It is because of the internet, you have some funky PSP tool that illegally downloads all your goodies for you?
3) ill just download livesets i get new ones all the time there is no need to purchase a cd.
4) i got a mp3 player who needs CD's these days! or i got a CD burner i always burn my friends copy
b) or is it because djs are making poor quality cd compilation...its not worth your $?
if so
what can we do? What makes an interesting complication CD mix?
a) ill buy a cd if it has all the latest/top tunes (ie hammered by all jocks for the last 6-12months)
b) A few of the latest + some old top tunes (top but has not been overplayed).
c) Unknowns/surprises + a few well known (new + old) is good.
d) i don�t care ill buy a cd if its been mixed by a top dj. (top djs are always quality!)
e) its been recommended by a TA or a friend so ill buy it without knowing what to expect (they seem to know what their talking about, I trust them).
f) For real it doesn't matter, ill just listen to a CD sample, if it sounds good ill buy it.
g) other reasons�explain.


Posted by torontotrance on Jul-25-2004 23:46:

HMMMMMMMMM

usually I know where to get hard to find stuff. Shipping is not an issue for me, I'm more concerned about price at times but quality is the most to me. The way I view things, if Arturo hypes it, I won't buy it or if Nell says buy it, I won't. So much stuff is just put what I have on my radio show and make 2CDs and sell it to kiddies. I look for artists that rather innovation rather than play the same shit. I got friends who write for other mags and if some of them rave about something, I'll look into it. I mean GU for the most part was quality music and some songs are still unreleased, that is what I liked. Usually it is how much money I have, being unemployed hurts things, when I go back to working shortly I'll buy more. Problem is not do I want to buy it, it is I simply don't have the time with all my reviewing and other stuff to listen to my own CDs as much as I want to. I am a huge Used CD shopper, I know what is rare and what is hard to find. I see a CD I want, I buy, I bought oakenfold's 2 yrs at cream for 15 bucks, which was a steal.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-25-2004 23:59:

All mix CD's seem to be made by Dj Pro Tools to ensure you get maximum amount of tunes in there with minimal pleasure. Straight from the buildup to the next breakdown.

I want unmixed compilations, damnit.


Posted by torontotrance on Jul-26-2004 00:01:

Or go for ones that the deejay did in one take...like dave clarke's world service


Posted by Ian on Jul-26-2004 00:12:

Ferrys early trance nation ones were great, 100% tunage (which you dont get now, why should I buy a cd with 80% commercial bullshit and 20% fake trance when I can listen to a liveset etc) If the goods are there, people will buy, but when they'ren ot, they won't


Posted by RobSolaris on Jul-26-2004 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I want unmixed compilations, damnit.


hehee
narh you can't have it :P
buy it on vinyl maybe ey?

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
All mix CD's seem to be made by Dj Pro Tools to ensure you get maximum amount of tunes in there with minimal pleasure. Straight from the buildup to the next breakdown.

yes some CDs have many tunes...
generally big record labelers
wants wants a CD to contain everything, (ultimate CD mix?)
A CD mixed for everyone. it gets them more sales


Posted by torontotrance on Jul-26-2004 00:15:

Big Label CDs turn me off....MOS has lost the plot....too busy wanting to get more coin, rather than putting out quality and making money.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-26-2004 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by RobSolaris
hehee
narh you can't have it :P
buy it on vinyl maybe ey?

And do what? Look at the pretty vinyl?
I want full tunes and I don't have a vinyl player to play them with (well, I do, but the decks are at my friend's place since there simply isn't any room for them here).


Posted by DJ Rat 187 on Jul-26-2004 00:33:

Always good to get a nice artist album if it's special but if you're talking about mixed compilations ya, there's just too much mass produced shit and that's why people don't buy so many anymore, I guess a CD really has to be something for me to buy it, I don't really want to pay for a half-assed compilation that's going to lay around the house, there's quality tunes out there but you just have to dig a little.


Posted by Pointy on Jul-26-2004 01:40:

I think it's got something to do with a 'timeless' factor. For example (this is a bit of a generalisation) but most trance compilations these days are the same from mix to mix. That to me is boring, hence i dont buy trance comps anymore. I like to buy a CD which has a mixture of unique tunes of different genres, but are all mixed together to make one quality CD - eg: Hernan Cattaneo's latest Renaissance. Dave Seamans Renaissance Desire, GU012 and 016, Sasha's GUs, Phil K's Balance 004 (CD1 mainly), 16b's 'Everything All of Them Every Year' or whatever it's called. All these mixes just never ever get boring, and they have different quirks which make them a bit more interesting.


Posted by rainbow_marble on Jul-26-2004 05:21:

cool covers


Posted by Torley Wong on Jul-26-2004 05:46:

I go for good artist albums too (good in my little unorthodox book of tuneage, anyway)... but ya know what? They're rare. To this day, EDM is still very much a singles and mix-based market. Some albums are like a hybrid between the two which is neato like Cheetos, but I digress.

MoS has many compilations that confuse me. I look at the tracklists and they seem to overlap. Rather confusing in my book, ya know. So the thing for me is: as a yearly retrospective, the Annuals aren't too shabby. But WHAT?!? There's not just Annuals? On top of this they have different Annuals? Spring? Summer? Different geographic versions? WHY OH WHY!? This isn't Pokemon! Not to mention the hyperbole of compilations with the words "Ibiza" in them or "The Best Trance Anthem Album In The World... Ever!" Well, I can't testify to the authenticity of the former nor the accuracy of the latter, so I steer clear of confusion.

Once in awhile, something quirky strolls along and I luv the whole package, including the cover art.


Posted by Radagast on Jul-26-2004 06:23:

I make sure it isn't epic or anthem trance. I make sure it's from what in my opinion is a good DJ. It's a plus if the mix has more than 20 tracks, but if I stayed strictly to that rule, i'd only be able to buy Bad Boy Bill mixes. I like him, his style, and his CD's but I also like most other genres as well and not everyone can actually DJ on all of their CD's like he does. Maybe Hawtin and Clarke occasionaly. I was surprised to find Carl Cox has several decent 20+ track mix CD's.

Or in the case of an unkonwn genre to me like DnB i'll go for a name I recognize. I wanted a DnB CD and I got a Dieselboy mix because i'd heard of him before. I think it's a good compilation myself, but then what do I know about DnB...nothing really. I had the choice of the Dieselboy CD I bought, a Dieselboy CD with DnB remixes of Trance tracks, LTJ Bukem's depressing DnB artist album that had like 9 tracks on it, or one of those "DnB master mix compilation 2003" CD's from the music store I was in. I think I made the right choice though.


Posted by jwear2004 on Jul-26-2004 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery


I want unmixed compilations, damnit.



Same here! And full versions of the songs, preferably. (I know, I know, it's not as cool as vinyl, but I'm poor yet I want to play songs legally).


Posted by noikeee on Jul-26-2004 10:39:

Re: what do you guys look for when purchasing a CD? what makes it interesting ;)

quote:
Originally posted by RobSolaris
1) Is it because it cost too much $ for the cd/shipping? (ie the cd is not available in your country)
b) or is it because djs are making poor quality cd compilation...its not worth your $?

f) For real it doesn't matter, ill just listen to a CD sample, if it sounds good ill buy it.


Posted by swisstoni_uk on Jul-26-2004 17:40:

tbh i go for tracklisting

last ones i bought was ASOT 2004/Ahead/Positive Ways 3 and now Vandit: The Sessions Vol. 3

all by big name DJ's. if one track is out of place im the tracklist i just shudder

for example: Trancemaster s 3 CD in the UK

nice list:


1. Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body Rock (Rennie Pilgrim Remix) wtf is that a breaks remix?
2. Sander van Doorn - Loaded
3. Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Armin van Buuren Universal Religion Remix)how old is this??
4. Paul van Dyk - Crush (Vandit Club Mix)
5. Three Drives - Air Traffic
6. Witness of Wonder - Emotions in Motion
7. Tiesto featuring BT - Love Comes Again
8. Ton T.B. - Dream Machine
9. Armin van Buuren feat. Justine Suissa - Burned With Desire (Brian Cross Remix) one of my favs of the past year
10. Envio - Time To Say Goodbye
11. Riley & Durrant - Suddenly
12. Darren Tate - DeliveranceDOES THIS BELONG HERE??
13. Slipmatt & Lime - Our FutureDOES THIS BELONG HERE??
14. Lasgo - Surrender (Cor Fijneman Remix)DOES THIS BELONG HERE??
15. Sam Sharp - Twister (Ron van den Beuken Mix)DOES THIS BELONG HERE??

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they ruin it so much with tracks that are mediocre and dont belong on the first CD.

I couldnt care who mixed them, i dont care how they were mixed (pc mixing isnt THAT bad ) i just need the latest tracks and the best order of tracks

thats why i went for ASOT 2004 and Positive Ways 3, the newest tracks and a good order


Posted by TweeK on Jul-26-2004 17:45:

It better have a uber cool cover


Posted by sigmanova on Jul-26-2004 17:54:

most of what is the deciding factor is tracklisting and who did the mixing, and maybe not as significant are artwork and price.


Posted by NinetyNinety on Jul-26-2004 19:08:

1. It has got to be from a DJ that I know
2. It has got to be a CD with a great track selection
3. It has got to be something I have been anticipating
4. It has to be a quality production (I mean: art design, a nice booklet, etc...)

...and I guess that's all...


Posted by RenderedDream on Jul-26-2004 19:13:

all the ninetyninety things plus new tunes, i mean, that nobody has listened to them (and they must be good)


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-26-2004 19:31:

The tracklisting, and the number of tracks on the album- too many and it's crap mixing in effect and the tunes just slam into each other, too few and it's too expensive (and also could well be crap mixing).


Posted by AlphaStarred on Jul-26-2004 19:55:

i don't really purchase cds nowadays...if i wanted a new album or something of the sort i'd probly just download it


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jul-26-2004 21:50:

I look at the price. If it's above $15, you won't see me purchasing it. Most of the electronica albums around here range from $18-30. I simply can not see spending that much money on a CD.

Most of them are priced that high because of the import tax, I wish the record companies would open some labels over here so they can print copies in the states.


Posted by flavdave on Jul-27-2004 01:56:

I usually spend my money on vinyl, artist albums, or compilations mixed by the big dj's nowadays.

I used to buy compilations every now and then but I've been holding back for the past year or so because they are the same crap over and over again. I think 90% of the trance compilations I've seen in stores this year have had Burned With Desire, As the Rush Comes, Love Comes Again, and Time of Our Lives. I have 76, Just Be, and Reflections and I've had ATRC since it came out on Nyana back in May of last year, so seeing all of these tracks on a compilation is discouraging. Add the fact that a computer probably mixed the cd makes me not want to buy the cd even more.


Posted by Clyde77 on Jul-27-2004 01:59:

the dj, simple as that



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