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Posted by Tiesto643 on Jul-27-2004 12:30:

A&H xone 92 vs Pioneer DJM600 vs Rane MP2016+ XP2016

Hi there,
Next month i am gonna be upgrading my shitty Gemini KL-10 mixer. I was thinking between these 3 mixers but i have not tried any of them out. What is the best of the 3 mixers? And also should i consider any other mixers except these??

CHEERS
Liam


Posted by chesco on Jul-27-2004 13:21:

I would also check out the denon 1500.

Out of them all i'd personally choose the djm because it's the only mixer I've used. lol.

I have a djm-600 and it's served it's time brilliantly, altho I'm having some problems with it now. I am also in the market for a new mixer and I can probably say that it will be the xone 92 I go for.


Posted by DJ Tranz on Jul-27-2004 13:27:

Re: A&H xone 92 vs Pioneer DJM600 vs Rane MP2016+ XP2016

quote:
Originally posted by Tiesto643
Hi there,
Next month i am gonna be upgrading my shitty Gemini KL-10 mixer. I was thinking between these 3 mixers but i have not tried any of them out. What is the best of the 3 mixers? And also should i consider any other mixers except these??

CHEERS
Liam


Hey M8!

Please don't put djm600 as a choice when comparing to a much higher quality mixers as Xone 092 or Xone 092Rotary, Rane MP2016 + XP2016. If you want more choices to pick from then here you go:

Allen & Heath Xone 092 Rotary brand new for 2004
Crest Audio CP6210 + CP6220 Xpansion Unit brand new for 2004
Rane MP2016 + XP2016
Rane MP44 redesigned in 2003
Allen & Heath Xone 464
Allen & Heath Xone 092 brand new for 2004

Cheers...

ps. email me at [email protected] for special fellow TA pricing.


Posted by ESMdjm600 on Jul-27-2004 13:30:

hey chesco, werent u the same guy in a post from another thread who said something along the lines of it being useless to have a mixer like an A&H cuz u cant hear the sound quality?


Posted by chesco on Jul-27-2004 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by ESMdjm600
hey chesco, werent u the same guy in a post from another thread who said something along the lines of it being useless to have a mixer like an A&H cuz u cant hear the sound quality?


Yes because I had it fed thru a radio sound system!!

But now that I've upgraded sound system I think it's time to try the 92.

And I still stand by that statement - The xone 62 is bought for superior sound quality - so whats the point in buying it then feeding it thru shite speakers.


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 14:33:

I would highly recoommend purchasing the xone92 rotary from Shehryar Qamar. The sound quality you get from a bottle of liquid laundry detergent is unbelievable.

Fuck you Shehryar.


Posted by Wraith on Jul-27-2004 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
I would highly recoommend purchasing the xone92 rotary from Shehryar Qamar. The sound quality you get from a bottle of liquid laundry detergent is unbelievable.

Fuck you Shehryar.


LMFAO, you keep popping up in threads with this. I'm sorry to hear about your screw over though, perhaps you would like to share some of the details with the rest of us??


Posted by Malhiotface on Jul-27-2004 15:30:

Ever thought about a Dateq?


Posted by dj chex on Jul-27-2004 15:48:

Here's my $0.02 on mixers, don't get pissed if i don't like your's b/c this is my personal view.

In terms of sound quality:

1. Rane MP2016/xp2016
2. A&H Xone:92 (Extremely close to rane)
3. Pioneer DJM600 (pure crap sound quality in comparison)

In terms of use and function:

1.A&H Xone: 92 (i never use alot of the effects found on the pio, and the lfo filters cannot be beat on xone mixers)
2. Pioneer djm600 (made w/ lots of stuff in mind like samplers, and loaded w/ effects)
3. Rane MP2016/XP2016 (great rotary mixer, except it's not loaded with bells and whistles like others. IN all a GREAT quality solid mixer for solid mixing)

MY personal top choice mixers:
1. A&H Xone:92
2. Rane Empath (i love mine)
3. Bozak CMA-10
4. Rane MP2016 w/ xp2016
5. A&H xone:62
6. Ecler NUO:5

Mixers i don't like:
1. anything made by peavy, and all newer stanton
2. Behringer knock offs
3. some geminis with the exception of the old umx series
4. Personally i don't really like the djm500/600, but that's just me.
5. Anything that comes w/ a dj-in-a-box type setup. it's all junk.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jul-27-2004 18:00:

I'd get the xone:92 for sure.

To be honest, if i were you i wouldnt even consider the djm. I know many people on this forum love them, and everything, and they are fine mixers. But they are getting to be outdated in the 4 channel with effects section. The denon dnx-1500, and the nuo5 both beat the djm's hands down. Not to mention they are cheaper.

Nuo5, better sound quality, midi, effects can be customized by plugging it into your computer.

Denon dnx-1500, better sound quality, you can download new effects, and patches for the mixer, it has a tube display, you can change its settings, and that "matrix" thing is so sweet on it. When i was at the shop the guy set 3 channels to the same channel on the matrix. Then each one was dedicated to bass, or mid, or treble. So then you could use the faders to play with the eq...it was pretty fun.


Posted by Keith Chambers on Jul-27-2004 18:44:

I have owned the DJM-600 and currently have the Rane 2016 MP + XP. I have never owned or used any A&H but I hear good things about them.

If you care about sound quality don't go with the DJM-600. It has nice features and a nice design but the sound quality is pretty poor in my opinion.

As I said I have the Rane and I love it. It takes some getting use to but once you fall in love with it you aren't going to want to touch anything else. You should be able to pick up the MP + XP for $1500US but remember that it is a rack mounted mixer. You can't set it on its back like you can with the DJM-600. So make sure to factor in the extra cost/time of buying or building a case for it. You can read more about what I had to do here:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&pagenumber=87

Keith


Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-27-2004 22:07:

I owned a Xone: 62 for a few days and really didn't like it at all. There are some long threads listing the reasons...some other peopel voiced problems they had with AH mixers. All I can say, is I absolutely love my DJM 600. Its so comfortable, and sounds awesome in my opinion. I always wonder if people who accuse certain high end mixers of sounding bad actually know what they're talking about. Like, can you really tell the difference between the quality of a DJM or a Xone 62? How do you determine that? Honestly, all the mixers you listed are all high end expensive mixers, all with qualities that would make it easy to justify buying them.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jul-27-2004 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I owned a Xone: 62 for a few days and really didn't like it at all. There are some long threads listing the reasons...some other peopel voiced problems they had with AH mixers. All I can say, is I absolutely love my DJM 600. Its so comfortable, and sounds awesome in my opinion. I always wonder if people who accuse certain high end mixers of sounding bad actually know what they're talking about. Like, can you really tell the difference between the quality of a DJM or a Xone 62? How do you determine that? Honestly, all the mixers you listed are all high end expensive mixers, all with qualities that would make it easy to justify buying them.


You can tell a mixers sound quality, by hooking a good mixer up to a good system, then hooking a poorer mixer to it. Trust me theres a difference. The djm 600 is acceptable, i mean its used in clubs, but theres alot better out there now.


Posted by tubby on Jul-28-2004 00:32:

The 600 is also quite old now, i'd be expecting an announcement of the new model soon. anyone know how good the 909 sounds? that's the sort of thing the 600 replacement would be comparable to.


Posted by Dzokayi on Jul-28-2004 04:23:

as always, the answer is...

It depends...

What type of music do you spin? What's your style? Agressive cuts or long transitions? Do you scratch? Rotary vs fader preference? Do you need 4+ channels?


Posted by djtrinity on Jul-30-2004 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Malhiotface
Ever thought about a Dateq?



of all the above mentioned mixers.....IMO the Dateq has the best sound quality....


I have owned almost all of them.....


Posted by djtrinity on Jul-30-2004 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
Here's my $0.02 on mixers, don't get pissed if i don't like your's b/c this is my personal view.

In terms of sound quality:

1. Rane MP2016/xp2016
2. A&H Xone:92 (Extremely close to rane)
3. Pioneer DJM600 (pure crap sound quality in comparison)

In terms of use and function:

1.A&H Xone: 92 (i never use alot of the effects found on the pio, and the lfo filters cannot be beat on xone mixers)
2. Pioneer djm600 (made w/ lots of stuff in mind like samplers, and loaded w/ effects)
3. Rane MP2016/XP2016 (great rotary mixer, except it's not loaded with bells and whistles like others. IN all a GREAT quality solid mixer for solid mixing)

MY personal top choice mixers:
1. A&H Xone:92
2. Rane Empath (i love mine)
3. Bozak CMA-10
4. Rane MP2016 w/ xp2016
5. A&H xone:62
6. Ecler NUO:5

Mixers i don't like:
1. anything made by peavy, and all newer stanton
2. Behringer knock offs
3. some geminis with the exception of the old umx series
4. Personally i don't really like the djm500/600, but that's just me.
5. Anything that comes w/ a dj-in-a-box type setup. it's all junk.


i just got a bozak cma-10 dla....its the same as the orignal bozak except it has 2 extra inputs and a booth out.....i pick it up sat i let u know what i think about it


Posted by djtrinity on Jul-30-2004 00:51:

Idea

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
You can tell a mixers sound quality, by hooking a good mixer up to a good system, then hooking a poorer mixer to it. Trust me theres a difference. The djm 600 is acceptable, i mean its used in clubs, but theres alot better out there now.


if u wanna test the quality of a mixer......just make a simple flat recording from it....and pump it up in your car....u will then be able to hear what the deal is......IMO all this shit we listen to is already mastered(well most of it) and if u record it flat it should sound exactly how it sounds in the guys studio who made it....(i think).....there should be no reason to eq or process anything after u do a mix.....the only mixers i have used that u could leave flat are(at least for my taste)in order of quality)

1-urei 1620
2-dateq
3-a&h 92
4-rane 2016

the urei i can't say enough how fucking insane this mixer sounds......supposedly the bozak sounds better....i will find out

her is also a interesting thread with urei/bozak fanatics from ny...it get very heated!!!!



urei vs. rane vs bozak



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