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Armana - Ethereal - ABOVE & BEYOND MEETS ALPHAZONE

I did this one so I could enter something in the TA Unite 4 mix.. it's still under undecided status.. but it's a great track and I would like to share it with everyone else..

FEEDBACK IS WELCOME

Armana - Ethereal
Bitrate: 192kbps
Length: 6min 58sec

this is sort of a flutlicht, rank 1, or alphazone repeating and epic melody style track.. but some people are saying i screwed something up in the repetition but I can't really point it out exactly.. anyone care to comment on that?

maybe I was thinking wrong with the sub-melody and main melody principle? there really aren't any other elements in the track except for the sub-melody and the main melody..

Didn't like the synth playing during the buildup that fades in around 00:40. The kick needs to be phatter and punchier. The track needs more stereo width. Also, the main lead synth sounds really standard and Euro-ish. Sorry if this is too many negative comments, but I'm just being honest. Hope this helps.

Stan.

-background elements and percussion are just fine.
-stereo field seems fine to me, but could be used more elaborately.
-the fade-out b4 the breakdown is a tad too plain... maybe some fancy FX as it tones down.
-i think i hear piano in the breakdown too and in the melody.. make it a bit more loud and a tad less bright
-there's a underlying string that is a little thin, maybe give it some harmonic notes
-some of the lead synths need to be more powerful... not sure how to fix em
-the drone that sounds like a square wave somehow sounds cheesy
-the breakdown needs a bigger buildup.... it's got HUGE potential!
-bassline seems just fine, but needs a tad more low end
-the kick could be meatier in the low end too

Hey man, this song really rocks along. Great big epic sounds, good energy and drive. Good luck with the TA unite 4 mix, but remember - rejection is fun!

I think you have succeeded when it comes to mixing and equalizing. To me the bass seems to occupy the right spectre of frequencies, I wouldn't say it needs more sub. Kick, percussion and bass sounds were really good, but I didn't personally like the sound of that instrument fading in at around 0:40. But that's subjective. Then I would have liked the main part better if the piano had played a melody of its own, rather than playing the same as the main lead. I don't think those two come together that well, at least in my ears. Btw, what does that phased (?) FX-sound "consist of" that's played during e.g. the intro all from the beginning?

thanks for the comments everyone

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Originally posted by BetaFactory Btw, what does that phased (?) FX-sound "consist of" that's played during e.g. the intro all from the beginning?

it was some neat percussion FX preset on my virus that I put through a filter.. you can get the same effect with a phased/filtered hi-hat and an underlying effect..

this is sort of a flutlicht, rank 1, or alphazone repeating and epic melody style track.. but some people are saying i screwed something up in the repetition but I can't really point it out exactly.. anyone care to comment on that?

maybe I was thinking wrong with the sub-melody and main melody principle? there really aren't any other elements in the track except for the sub-melody and the main melody..

plus
I like the bass
I love percussions coming at: 00:34 (they are uber cool)
some cool FX going on
the lead doesnt so too bad..
the melody isnt bad either

minus
percussive intro is still tha thing
messed up build up..
those percussions arent enough..
u could make this a 1 takeoff tune..


conclusion
this is not bad tune, actually quite good.. the bass is ok and the lead synth is good too, there are descent effects.. although I think this track needs a longer build up.. more percussive stuff before the bass.. the hi hats were uber-cool, but that is just not enough... and yeah... nothing new about the lead theme...

7-/10

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Originally posted by Subtle u could make this a 1 takeoff tune..

thanks for the detailed comments! ^ what do u mean by that?

You got good production skill, but your track is one big large dull cliche of a trance tune. Experiment a bit, find your own sound, get inspiration from places other than your favourite artists.

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Originally posted by alanzo thanks for the detailed comments! ^ what do u mean by that?

ehm... more of a matter of taste actually.. but make a long intro and long outro with cool percussions.. building up to the one breakdown..

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Originally posted by Subtle ehm... more of a matter of taste actually.. but make a long intro and long outro with cool percussions.. building up to the one breakdown..

you mean do that instead of repeating the melody twice?

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You got good production skill, but your track is one big large dull cliche of a trance tune. Experiment a bit, find your own sound, get inspiration from places other than your favourite artists.

great tips.. thanks

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Originally posted by alanzo yeah, excactly

The main melody has definite potential. But it sounds like it's a bit off in terms of key... something just doesn't click as well as it should. But I must say that weird under melody thing that happens in the buildup at like 45sec or so is horrid (the same one that happens right before the second break). I feel like the type of melody and progression of it needs a harder bass punch... it sounds relatively flat compared to the rest of the track.

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Originally posted by Subtle yeah, excactly

thanks for the great tip! i'll try that in my next one..

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Originally posted by Stories The main melody has definite potential. But it sounds like it's a bit off in terms of key... ...it sounds relatively flat compared to the rest of the track.

the entire track is in the key of Eb Minor.. I used a I-VI-VII chord progression... everything is in tune.. listen again

thanks for the comments.. more are welcome

this is very energetic . reminds me of like aura / trance control

it reminds me of stuff i was listening to when i first got into trance, but that's not a bad thing.

have you tried making any chilled out darker tracks?

i have a feeling you would do a good track like that too.

okok, heres my little rewiev.

don't like the bassline that much (needs more lower frequencies i guess). the fx are cool (maybe you could make give them some more edge instead of the liquid sound). the drums are ok, too (maybe some bongos or rims benaeth the standart percusions to fill it up). i totaly agree with en2t on the sound that comes in at 0.40 but i appreciate that you did something unique. i realy enjoyed the part where the main-lead gets filtered in. the melody sounds good to me. like this acidisch sound in the background of the melody. what i was missing during the whole song was some pads or strings and the buildup could be a bit better, some of the transitions are abit ugly (e.g. when the melody comes in)

though, a good production with some weaknesses. i give you 7/10 points.

cheers, niklas.

damn... i'm embarassed. you did a great job i think, at least it's amazing compared to mine. real clean i thought overall, melody is nice too...

i'll just stick to mixing

if you want to feel better about yourself just download mine

and by the way, why is this section called amature? shouldn't there be another one called... truley amature, but i doubt people would even look at that forum...

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Originally posted by DJFreaq damn... i'm embarassed. you did a great job i think, at least it's amazing compared to mine. real clean i thought overall, melody is nice too... i'll just stick to mixing if you want to feel better about yourself just download mine and by the way, why is this section called amature? shouldn't there be another one called... truley amature, but i doubt people would even look at that forum...

Sounds like someones had a bad day?

Really dude, this ch00n is really nice =)..
I like the melody ALOT. But the bassdrum needs work, some lower frequences like one said before me =)..

Its energetic and driving throughout the whole ch00n, i like that..
And the breakdown around 4:10 something is nice =)

Ill give it a 7,5/10

Hi,

This tune starts pretty nice, but at 0:34 it's getting a bit too messy and loud IMO. The hihats are a bit too present. The clap is ugly. That pulsy counter melody is pretty cool, but too loud. At the break the melody is just too loud, and that too low piano playing along makes it muddier, I think you should change (remove) that. Mastering could be better as well, it's as if you still have too many low end to your synths, dunno, could be clearer.

I don't want to tear it all apart. The melody is quite cool, and the track has a good drive with lots of energy. Kick sample does a good job as well. Just many tiny things I would change at first.

Hope this helps
-Jay

thanks for the comments everyone! Sorry for the late response.. I was at NYC for the weekend

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Originally posted by extalin it reminds me of stuff i was listening to when i first got into trance, but that's not a bad thing.

yeh as hard as I try I still tend to produce tracks that sound like what I was listening to when I First got into trance as well.. A few people have told me to be more creative with playing around with the melodies and crap instead of just bringing it right in..

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Originally posted by soundrush the drums are ok, too (maybe some bongos or rims benaeth the standart percusions to fill it up. what i was missing during the whole song was some pads or strings and the buildup could be a bit better, some of the transitions are abit ugly (e.g. when the melody comes in)

I realized that the percussion in this track was just a one-shot deal.. it could of just been a loop throughout the entire track.. will put some more complex fills and crap into the next one

there was a light pad there but I guess it wasn't full/loud enough to fill up the breakdown..

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Originally posted by DJFreaq if you want to feel better about yourself just download mine

I left some feedback for your track

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Originally posted by JayM Mastering could be better as well, it's as if you still have too many low end to your synths, dunno, could be clearer.

I try to pride myself on my ability to master reasonably well is that the only part of the mastering you thought could of used a change?

again, thanks for the comments everyone! MORE ARE WELCOME

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Originally posted by alanzo I try to pride myself on my ability to master reasonably well is that the only part of the mastering you thought could of used a change? again, thanks for the comments everyone! MORE ARE WELCOME

work on it some more dude i cant really heard much after 2:27 but before that its mint

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Originally posted by Sirocco work on it some more dude i cant really heard much after 2:27 but before that its mint

what do you mean? you can't hear the bass or something?

Hey Alanzo

Wasup up bro

My comments?...i would have to say this is a pretty amazin tune man...i would have to say im glad theres people like u as well as myself so far who want to go on a different trance spin

love everybit of it...but what kinda ruined it for me was the wierd line at 1:56...i was like Fuck Yea until i heard this...and then when it morphed into a better sound i was like FUCK YEA again...but then when it turned back into that sound i was like FUCK NO!! lol

Well to be on honest this is going on my mix cd as well as SoundRush's track (amazing track if no one heard it yet)

Keep up the good work man

Sebastiano

New Alanzo supporter

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Originally posted by alanzo what do you mean? you can't hear the bass or something?

i can hear the bass but everthing get into a huge blur. i hear a booomy sounds and some highs going buy but everythng isnt ndependant

Hey!!!

For me this song is not bad
Melo is good, i like bass and effects.

Why it is monotony???

Keep it up!!!!

Greetings

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