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Posted by DJ_Hailstone on Jul-30-2004 10:17:

CDJs to decks exchange

I have a set of 2xPioneer CDJ-100s and DJM-300s (they are 2 years old). I am thinking about selling these CDJs and buy new decks. I can have one new Technics SL-1200MK2 with Shure Whitelabel cartridge if I sell my two CDJs. I am planning to buy the second deck later. I am doing it because of vinyl, it has better sound quality and it is more "magic" in it. What do you all think about it? Please give me your opinions.


Posted by Unknown DJ on Jul-30-2004 10:57:

this is a tough one really. i do prefere using my turntables over my cdj 100's. but the way things r going now, itlooks like djing will all be digital within five or so years. so getting turntables now may be a bit of a whaste of money. but then again, vinyl may still be going strong for years to come. its this question that has made me considering selling everything and getting some cdj 1000's.


Posted by stevebutabi on Jul-30-2004 14:54:

i have nothing against the progression of dj'ing but i do fell it is important to keep vinyl alive.

if you're a local dj there's no excuse to play cd's really... if you're international then i can definately see using cd's.

i was at a party with sasha in june and he told me the real progression is gonna come in a couple years when all big clubs are outfitted with computers and really mindblowing shit will be possible


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-30-2004 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi

if you're a local dj there's no excuse to play cd's really... if you're international then i can definately see using cd's.

That doesn't make any sense.


Posted by DJ_Hailstone on Jul-30-2004 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
i have nothing against the progression of dj'ing but i do fell it is important to keep vinyl alive.


Yeah thats true. DJing with CDs is different from DJing with vinyls.


Posted by Inertia on Jul-30-2004 17:52:

well, have you ever spun vinyl before? go over to a friend's, and give it a go, figure out what you like best.

making the technical transition will be quite easy, as if you've trained your ear by now to pitch records, all you'll have to learn is how to manipulate the vinyl, and pitch bend, which you could get the hang of quickly.


Posted by sleepydragon on Jul-30-2004 18:12:

i dont think vinyl will ever completley die out
if u listen to critics vinyl shouldnt of been dead 10years ago but it aint its still here and i think clubbers prefer seeing vinyl being played to cds


Posted by DJ_Hailstone on Jul-30-2004 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
well, have you ever spun vinyl before? go over to a friend's, and give it a go, figure out what you like best.

making the technical transition will be quite easy, as if you've trained your ear by now to pitch records, all you'll have to learn is how to manipulate the vinyl, and pitch bend, which you could get the hang of quickly.


Yep I did it already and I think DJing with vinyl is a lot better. Spinning vinyl gives me a feeling I am a real DJ.


Posted by don_q on Jul-31-2004 04:40:

quote:
[I]Originally posted by stevebutabi[I]
i was at a party with sasha in june and he told me the real progression is gonna come in a couple years when all big clubs are outfitted with computers and really mindblowing shit will be possible


yes of course. Its Evolution Baby (PJ)
But that doesn't mean vynil will die.
Cds were supposed to do that.


Posted by TempesTrip on Jul-31-2004 05:41:

Vinyl WILL eventually die out. In how much time who knows. With technologies such as final scratch and serano then the cds it will eventually all go digital. ones and zeros hate to say it. I love the feeling of a new vinyl in my hand and i was nieve to think it wouln't die out but it will. BUT not as soon as you think. I give it another 20 years before everything goes completley digital. There will be a transition period and fights ect ect about vinly vs but eventually technology will over come. So have fun with it while you can. l8z tempest


Posted by mungoy on Jul-31-2004 20:34:

i dont have a problem with cds. hey, i use cds in my car and at home. but when i spin, i think cds are a little boring to play with. and music mostly comes out on vinyl. its kinda hard to find the songs you want on cd. unless you download it. and im sure the guy you r downloading from got the song through vinyl. so all i can say is, i cant see vinyl dying in the near future, and i cant see myself spinning only cds. and as long as there are people like me, vinyl will always be around :dj:


Posted by beats and beeps on Jul-31-2004 20:44:

Seems we're straying from the thread topic a bit, but what the hell...I personally feel that vinyl wont totally die out, because there will always be collectors. I also think that turntabilists wont let vinyl die. However i do think that vinyl will become MUCH less popular on the EDM music side of things. Many big name djs are going totally digital, so cdjs are slowly being excepted.


Posted by mungoy on Jul-31-2004 23:09:

ooops... sorry. back to the topic. yeah, i believe there is "magic" in spining vinyl. and i think you should go for the techs. and i promise you, you will enjoy spinning alot more with techs than with cdjs


Posted by don_q on Aug-01-2004 00:33:

If it were my thread I'd believe the topic of vynil's future is important. you don't wanna sell the future and buy the past (of course mine and other's point was this is not the case)

So, out of that conclusion I'd say, if money is an issue take it slowly and try to buy only 1 deck, maybe sell 1 cdj if necessary. You can mix w/ a deck and a cdj. But don't give up cds. If you can, buy 2 decks and keep at least 1 cdj. Technology gives more and better options (cds) but whats good is good (vynil).
Take the best of both worlds and have fun!


Posted by beats and beeps on Aug-01-2004 00:52:

Yeah to be honest, i dont think youll get very much money for used cdj-100s, so youd probably just be best to hold on to them, and slowly save up for tts.


Posted by DJ_Hailstone on Aug-01-2004 12:55:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Yeah to be honest, i dont think youll get very much money for used cdj-100s, so youd probably just be best to hold on to them, and slowly save up for tts.


As I said I can buy one deck if I sell 2 cdjs. I would like to buy second deck in the future. I know the best solution would be 2 decks with 2 cdjs, but I dont have money to buy new decks and keep cdjs Thats the reason


Posted by DannyO on Aug-02-2004 00:53:

I can honestly say from things I've seen and things I know....Vinyl is still gonna be around for ALONG time, CDJs will be used more and more, and new technology will make its way onto the scene, but most people will use Decks, and most of the newest releases will be on Vinyl.

But it really won't last forever, the future holds many surprizes.


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Aug-02-2004 02:19:

If you want to call yourself a DJ, then you better know how to spin on vynil. You may use CD's in addition to vynil but not instead of vynil.


Posted by D Dubya on Aug-02-2004 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
If you want to call yourself a DJ, then you better know how to spin on vynil.


If you want to call yourself a DJ, then you better know how to spell Vinyl.


Posted by cryo on Aug-02-2004 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
If you want to call yourself a DJ, then you better know how to spell Vinyl.


heh, i dont get how people can spell vinyl wrong when its spelled right many times around here


Posted by trancintaiwan on Aug-02-2004 04:22:

yea, how can you say that vinyl will die completely. turntablism is basically here to stay and i honestly do not know 1 all-hip hop dj spin with cd's. there are those imitators who do those stupid mobile djing stuff but of all my friends and people i know in the hip hop community loves vinyl. anyways, back to trance, everything does seem to be moving toward digital though. i personally would prefer to use only vinyl w/ cd's incorporated. i like vinyl a lot cuz u can see where you are in the track. i think i just like seeing the grooves... lol...


Posted by Greedy on Aug-02-2004 13:15:

you fools. Just because there are cdjs and dvd players, doesnt mean turntables are gonna dissappear. They will always be at the clubs/lounge or where ever you play simply due to the fact that not everyone has the luxury to explore the digital realms of djing. . . . even the great djs.

I went to crobar recently to check out Deep Dish and near the end I see Sharam fuckin around on the Pioneer DVD table and damn, I thought he was gonna run outta record at the end of this track when all of a sudden i hear this locomotive rumble come from the back of the club and rushed to the dj booth. Thats right peeps. . . .SURROUND SOUND effects. Within the next 5 years, clubbing is gonna be like dancing in a movie theatre. It took him over 5 minutes to mix in a sound effect that lasted 2-3 seconds, but it was still damn mind blowing.

So stick to the tables, and add to it with whatever whenever u get the money. CDJs are a convenient alternative, but who wants conveniency when you want good sound quality?


Posted by DJ A.i on Aug-02-2004 14:32:

i dont think vinyl will be replaced by CD's anytime soon. they will just be used side by side like they are now. most clubs nowadays carry both CD tables and regular turntables. there are always new technology comeing out almost every 8 yrs or so..this leaves no room for people to make that adjustment to useing just CD's.... now, if your talking the use of digital music in general, thats a different story.. esp. since they are comeing out with programs such as final scratch and sareto which fuses digital music with vinyl... and it seems to be pretty popular with the big name djs in such a short time they have been available.


Posted by cryo on Aug-02-2004 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Hailstone
As I said I can buy one deck if I sell 2 cdjs. I would like to buy second deck in the future. I know the best solution would be 2 decks with 2 cdjs, but I dont have money to buy new decks and keep cdjs Thats the reason


maybe wait for a bit and hold onto your CDJs and see where things go in the next year or so (?) and maybe by then you could save some money for a pair of mk2s... who knows


Posted by noikeee on Aug-02-2004 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
i dont think vinyl will ever completley die out
if u listen to critics vinyl shouldnt of been dead 10years ago but it aint its still here


you know, that argument is a bit flawed cause vinyl DID die... for the usual mainstream listeners. it only stayed alive for the dj's, cause cdj's didn't become really quality until a couple years from now.

i have to agree that it will stay for a while still cause there is a lot of resistance from the scene. i understand the "coolness", the "nobleness" of using vinyl but if there are new technologies that can aim for better perfomance we shouldn't stick to the traditions. one day vinyl will die, for the dj's and electronic scene as well. i believe some labels and music styles could be more resistant than others and keep faithful to vinyl for a lot longer than just a couple of years, but eventually they will become old 60 year old farts with grey hair and quit


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