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The race card

I'm sick of everyone using it. When you complain about caribana its because you are racist. When you dont give a minority a job because they dont qualify, you are a racist. When something goes wrong for somebody who is a minority its because they are (insert race here).

There are many instances still of true bonefide racism but sadly they are getting drowned out by all the fake claims. Whenever somebody screams racism these days sadly my initial reaction is "whatever". Hasnt anybody ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? Sadly now its the boy who cried racism.

Thanks OJ simpson for teaching this to our society.... dumbass... (oops i called a black guy a dumbass... i must be racist!)

i agree... the society is way too paranoid about race sometimes to a point when its ridiculous

i agree that people do use the race card too often. But, in all fairness sometimes you do get cases where a coloured person maybe better able to point of a race related incident than somebody who is white.

example: i(im from india) went up to a friend's cottage, north of perry sound this weekend. When we went to the beach, i could see everybody looking at me. My friends(all white) just went on like they usually would. I was pretty much treated the same as everybody else, but its just not nice having everybody stare at you! People were making comments to me and not my friends, they were egging me on to jump off a cliff. Why not my friends? And yes, i was the only coloured person on the beach.

just because we make others aware of our feelings, or situations doesnt mean we are playing the race card.

Lol a friend of my mom's was telling me this theory that he was reading as a joke of course that there's a piramid...and on the bottom of it is the white male...animals, minorities, women...everything is above him, has some sort of protection, and the white male is the most unprotected creature it was really funny...I guess you had to be there to see his explanation.

This is how many white males feel this day and its not without reason. The is a huge double standard these days and what i said above is a great illustration of that. We as a society are told that racism only happens when white people do wrong to minorities however when its the other way around its because white people somehow deserve it.

We need to correct this if we ever want to be as one in unity in our society.

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Originally posted by Orko I was pretty much treated the same as everybody else, but its just not nice having everybody stare at you! People were making comments to me and not my friends, they were egging me on to jump off a cliff. Why not my friends? And yes, i was the only coloured person on the beach.

I was stared at constantly in Argentina in areas that never see tourists. Why? because i was different and nobody was used to it. Did it bother me? No way!

Also, people made untrue assumptions about me down there based on their perception of north americans. Again, did that bother me? No way!

Perhaps they wanted you to jump because you are a good diver? i dont know. But if their comments were blatantly racist then say something. If not its probably having something to do with something else. And if people stare at you because you are indian in a place where they never see indians, its only natural. Im sure there are plenty of places in india where white people dont go where id be stared at just as much or even more.

I think often times many people of colour tend to have persecution complexes. However, Those who constantly feel persecuted always will be persecuted. In other words, sometimes its all in your head.

One thing that is dissapointing about the race card, is that it is often used improperly, thus distracting from the real issues.

Racial Profiling exists in the U.S, and to a lesser degree here, however the real danger to society IMO is classism. The cops are busting the chops of tha poor folk, not just poor black folk.

pay attention to bill cosby these days.
he is insulting black people for being dumb and lazy, and playing into the hands of the stereotype of the ghetto thug.

Its great to hear it from a strong black figure like him.

myself, I hate dumb people. natives, blacks, whites, latinos whatever.
It comes across as racist, but I only mock the certain few who are useless twats, and not the general mass of that race.

but racism is more prevalent than I think Jayx1 realizes. come to alberta. get outside the big cities. then youll see it.

Man...

I thought this thread was about an actual race (and the card being given for qualifying...)

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I was stared at constantly in Argentina in areas that never see tourists. Why? because i was different and nobody was used to it. Did it bother me? No way! Also, people made untrue assumptions about me down there based on their perception of north americans. Again, did that bother me? No way! Perhaps they wanted you to jump because you are a good diver? i dont know. But if their comments were blatantly racist then say something. If not its probably having something to do with something else. And if people stare at you because you are indian in a place where they never see indians, its only natural. Im sure there are plenty of places in india where white people dont go where id be stared at just as much or even more. I think often times many people of colour tend to have persecution complexes. However, Those who constantly feel persecuted always will be persecuted. In other words, sometimes its all in your head.

dude most of the people are from the city! they are just cottage goers, now tell me how many people in southern ontario arent used to seeing people from other places? it would be very hard to find those cases.

isnt this the country of diversity? ofcourse in a country which does not have much of an outside influence, some looks are going to be given. But considering canada is so diverse, i didnt expect it.

and as to the diving thing, there was no reason to pick me out. i had in no way boasted about my diving abilities(actually lack off).

Racial Profiling: ive had many run ins with the cops, none of which i was charged for, or even taken to the station. When im with my black friends, they get harrased i get very light treatment, when im with my white friends, i get harrassed. And this is not in my head. I have others, who were with me at these times, who can attest to my claims. it happens way more than anybody realises.

Well the cop thing sucks for sure. But im still not convinced of the cottage incident. Perhaps they werent from the city? Either way, i think you are being too sensitive here. Imagine if i freaked out in argentina everytime people stared at me as if i had 5 eyes just because i spoke english? Id be a wreck after 4 months!

trust me im not being to sensitive. i wouldnt have said it, if i didnt actually feel awkward. I will say, that was the FIRST time i felt out of place in Canada. Relatives aske me from India, how is racism here. I said i cant complain except for the cops. I always stand up for Canada, and how fairly people are treated here. MOST OF THE TIME.

I live in Georgetown (45 mins north west of TO), and it is probably the least diverse town in the GTA. Out of 1500 kids at my high school, about 20 were non-white. With such a small minority of non-whites one would think that racism would be high, yet, it was the opposite. The black/asian kids were actually more popular than the whites, simply because they were different.

i guess u could call that positive racism?

I dont know... lol.. funny how u dont seem them complaining though.

"im being treated differently because im asian!!"

if i comment in this thread im gonna cause some serious controversy.

im gonna go watch BET........hahahahahhahahaha

im brown but i get sick when even my parents pull the race card during convos.

yes at times i have foudn some racism towards me but it prolly was jsut me overanalyzing...but when the first conclusion is racism, its unbearable

Get this.
I worked in a huge company for co-op and did an amazing job. They wanted me back so my managers all promised me a job once i graduated.

Turns out, at the time i graduated, there was a hiring freeze. 6 months later i get a call and an offer for an interview. Because i know many people there, i found out that there were 12 people being interviewed for a programming position. I was the only male, and the only white person there. The remaining 11 were all female, visible minorites. I didnt get the job but i hear the person who did is a real tool. I was perfect for this job and they knew it. The company is largely comprised of white males too.

I cant really complain because things have worked out way better than i had ever expected.

My thoughts are, if society wasnt so quick to use the race card, companies wouldnt have the unwritten demographic quotas. WTF ever happened to qualifications. Why are qualifications being ignored.

I call it reverse discrimination!

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Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew Get this. I worked in a huge company for co-op and did an amazing job. They wanted me back so my managers all promised me a job once i graduated. Turns out, at the time i graduated, there was a hiring freeze. 6 months later i get a call and an offer for an interview. Because i know many people there, i found out that there were 12 people being interviewed for a programming position. I was the only male, and the only white person there. The remaining 11 were all female, visible minorites. I didnt get the job but i hear the person who did is a real tool. I was perfect for this job and they knew it. The company is largely comprised of white males too. I cant really complain because things have worked out way better than i had ever expected. My thoughts are, if society wasnt so quick to use the race card, companies wouldnt have the unwritten demographic quotas. WTF ever happened to qualifications. Why are qualifications being ignored. I call it reverse discrimination!

yeah, its sucks, but its necessary. quota systems(same as american affirmative action) were orginally set up so that in 20-40 years racisms wouldn't affect the hiring process, and its worked.
if u have all white males in position to hire lower staff, then women and visible minorities have a harder time being hired and moving up the ranks to higher management themselves. in the can. gov't when they originally brought in the quota system (ccrf time) the plan was to eventually phase them out, once the job market was more representative of the population. hopefully that'll be soon

NO DISCRIMINATION OF ANY KIND IS OK.

When i look at applications i look at the best qualified and the most motivated. I dont care what race they are. I live in an area of mostly white people but i bet if i hired nobody but black and asians nobody would say a word right? Thats just wrong.

i don't own a race card. you pull yours around me, and you'll hear what i have to say.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 NO DISCRIMINATION OF ANY KIND IS OK. When i look at applications i look at the best qualified and the most motivated. I dont care what race they are. I live in an area of mostly white people but i bet if i hired nobody but black and asians nobody would say a word right? Thats just wrong.

Your philosophy might hold up for unskilled labour (that also gets paid shit), but try to apply your logic to positions required skilled/educated labour and see if certain groups aren't immediately at a significant disadvantage.

without a doubt, the race card is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overused.

It doesnt matter what job it is. Discrimination is wrong and i find that these days if there is any, it goes the other way. Just look at how the government hires for example. They sometimes even say "only minorities need apply". That chillingly reminds me of the "white only" fountains and restaurants of the 1950s in Alabama.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 It doesnt matter what job it is. Discrimination is wrong and i find that these days if there is any, it goes the other way. Just look at how the government hires for example. They sometimes even say "only minorities need apply". That chillingly reminds me of the "white only" fountains and restaurants of the 1950s in Alabama.

well what if the job is specifically for minorities to help other minorities? just a thought. obviously i dont know the specifics.

I think the business world, including all other jobs, have gotten a lot better at hiring minorities, and women. But, in the very top of the organizational structures, it is still comprised of white males. My company, a large accounting firm: You can find women, and minorities everywhere in the corporate structure, until you get to the Partners. Then its just white males. I was supprised to see so many women/minorities at my place of employment, but i was not supprised to see only white males as Partners.

Am i to believe that they cannot find qualified minorities or women for these positions? Yes there are a few, but it is definatly disproportionate.

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Originally posted by Orko well what if the job is specifically for minorities to help other minorities?

What if white people set up jobs specifically to help white people?

Oh i can see it now!!

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