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Help - Looking To Go Into CD Mixing

yo guys

Im looking to get some cd decks possibly very soon
i have a 2 week job with good income for decks

max ill have to spend is �600-�700

Im not an expert at finding them, so any good advice on what to get will be good

CD decks quite simply because i cant really afford vinyl every week, and im not a full 100% expert yet, although i do alot of mp3 mixing on my pc =)

Cheers

keith

ps any mp3 decks if they exist would rock lol

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Originally posted by Keith yo guys Im looking to get some cd decks possibly very soon i have a 2 week job with good income for decks max ill have to spend is �600-�700 Im not an expert at finding them, so any good advice on what to get will be good CD decks quite simply because i cant really afford vinyl every week, and im not a full 100% expert yet, although i do alot of mp3 mixing on my pc =) Cheers keith ps any mp3 decks if they exist would rock lol

dont get mp3 decks, get

these

trust me is worth the extra money

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Originally posted by Orange Project dont get mp3 decks, get these trust me is worth the extra money

I dont have �1400 to spend mate lol
yes i know they are quality, but i got no chance unless i wait till xmas.

Something half the power of those beast would be nice lol

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Originally posted by Keith I dont have �1400 to spend mate lol yes i know they are quality, but i got no chance unless i wait till xmas. Something half the power of those beast would be nice lol

If you buy anything less, you will be wasting your money. It is better if you wait, otherwise if you want to upgrade, ur old cd players will be worth a fraction of the price. buy one now and wait till christmas. Trust me!

I was in your postion last year and maybe I can give you some good advice.

dont spend alot of money on some super cd deck. All those functions are worthless. I had the Denon Dn S 5000 and I rarely used all that crap.

Most importantly , if you plan to spin trance or house music your sstyle and selection will suffer if you only do cds. I highly reccomend that you save up and get turntable and vinyl. I know its expensive but you have to find a way to do it. Stop spending money on food or clothes or porn and dedicate it to vinyl.

I recommend that you buy a dual rack mount cd player. I reccomend Denon. Its around $500. This is perfect for mixing. And all you need. Dont spend $2000 on a cd deck !! Thats ridicilous! If you have the $$$ or opening a club than Pioneer MKII is the best Cd deck out there. But as a beginer there's no need.


Save your money and get th follwing:

2 techincs
1 Denon dual rack mount cd deck

Dont make the same mistake I made. Trust me, Vinyl is where most of the new music and alot of old trance music is. Cd are cool for those hard to find tracks , "ok " songs, tricks, etc. Get both and master both and yolu be on your way to be the next PVD

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Originally posted by davepiazza Trust me, Vinyl is where most of the new music and alot of old trance music is. Cd are cool for those hard to find tracks , "ok " songs, tricks, etc.

I agree that getting both vinyl and cd decks are a good idea, but I wouldn't say that vinyl is where most of the new music is. You can get a lot of new tracks now through legal download services and they are more easily available than some records are. Some tracks are even available through these services before they are available on vinyl. Re:Locate - Typhoon/Fortitude was on Audio Jelly 2-3 weeks before the 12" promos were available for sale anywhere.

Here is my advice for Keith. If you want to get cd decks, get the Pioneers. They are what Technics 1200s are for vinyl. You can't go wrong with them. If you buy them and don't like them, you can sell them on eBay and pretty much get most if not all of your money back as long as you keep them in good condition. If you buy a cheap cd deck, then you will have to upgrade later if your serious about DJing, and you may not get much in return if you try to sell back those decks.

what are some site that sell trance mp3s? Very interested to know ..thanks

If I were you, I would have posted this in the DJ'ing advice forum, since more people there are liable to post on this subject. Also, disregard the guy who's telling you to get CDJ-1000MKIIs. Sure, they are the industry standard, but if you're just starting out, there's no way you need to spend that much money. I personally have my eye on the CDJ-800s which offer most of the features of the CDJ-1000MKIIs but can come in at $500 american (w/ price matching) vs. $1000+. I don't how much they cost in England (it's not just a straight conversion - I could do that). Also, you really only need individual decks if you're interested in scratching. If you're only going to be beatmatching, then get dual CD decks like some of the others mentioned. Furthermore, like I said before, if you post in the DJ forum you'll probably get a wider variety of responses.

Thanks for the advice guys.

Think i might just wait a bit till xmas and see what special clearance sales there are and ill have more money, as it isnt that long away, and i make a huge amount working at xmas. I will be getting cheap decks whatever i choose. Im not taking mixing a huge thing at the moment. I mix mp3s with traktor for my own enjoyment and nothing else. Hearing 2 songs going together seems to give me a good rush

Still good websites for decks etc would be good. I dont usually spend alot of time browsing the net for stuff like this. Lots of new technology gets confusing really lol

/Keith (Old Forum Account)

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Originally posted by flavdave Here is my advice for Keith. If you want to get cd decks, get the Pioneers. They are what Technics 1200s are for vinyl. You can't go wrong with them. If you buy them and don't like them, you can sell them on eBay and pretty much get most if not all of your money back as long as you keep them in good condition. If you buy a cheap cd deck, then you will have to upgrade later if your serious about DJing, and you may not get much in return if you try to sell back those decks.

Exactly, just what i said

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Originally posted by jwear2004 If I were you, I would have posted this in the DJ'ing advice forum, since more people there are liable to post on this subject. Also, disregard the guy who's telling you to get CDJ-1000MKIIs. Sure, they are the industry standard, but if you're just starting out, there's no way you need to spend that much money. I personally have my eye on the CDJ-800s which offer most of the features of the CDJ-1000MKIIs but can come in at $500 american (w/ price matching) vs. $1000+. I don't how much they cost in England (it's not just a straight conversion - I could do that). Also, you really only need individual decks if you're interested in scratching. If you're only going to be beatmatching, then get dual CD decks like some of the others mentioned. Furthermore, like I said before, if you post in the DJ forum you'll probably get a wider variety of responses.

Yes but if he becomes better he will spend another fortune upgrading and if he quits they will be worth nothing. If you get the real daddies then you can resale them or keep them forever

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Originally posted by clubbersking2001 Thanks for the advice guys. Think i might just wait a bit till xmas and see what special clearance sales there are and ill have more money, as it isnt that long away, and i make a huge amount working at xmas. I will be getting cheap decks whatever i choose. Im not taking mixing a huge thing at the moment. I mix mp3s with traktor for my own enjoyment and nothing else. Hearing 2 songs going together seems to give me a good rush Still good websites for decks etc would be good. I dont usually spend alot of time browsing the net for stuff like this. Lots of new technology gets confusing really lol /Keith (Old Forum Account)

www.djstore.co.uk

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Originally posted by davepiazza Most importantly , if you plan to spin trance or house music your sstyle and selection will suffer if you only do cds. I highly reccomend that you save up and get turntable and vinyl. I know its expensive but you have to find a way to do it. Stop spending money on food or clothes or Porn and dedicate it to vinyl.

What are you crazy?? Never deny a man's porn!!

But seriously, yeah get some decks, I started out with CD players I bought American DJ which are great and run nice. However, I'm tired of using mp3's cause they sound like crap. Save up for some tables and get some chairs too!

I tell every dj or aspiring dj that has or wants to spin cd's that you really need to invest in tables and vinyl. I will admit that I am a vinyl purist and very seldom use cd, but I am not the only one. Being a cd only dj can often be looked down on and affect bookings. There is nothing wrong with playing cd's for tracks that you cannot get or play on vinyl, but playing all cd's can be looked down upon. There is so much control with vinyl and there is a sense of gratification when you pick up a rare record and get the chance to use it. If you intend on playing at home or for chill parties, playing all cd can be alright, but if you want to develop and play out, playing vinyl will be very important. I have a cd mixer too, but I only use it when I have to. But buying vinyl does cost a shit ton. I don't even want to know the total expenditure.

VINYL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


that is all ........

I agree but even the greatest djs use a fair amount of cds

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer I tell every dj or aspiring dj that has or wants to spin cd's that you really need to invest in tables and vinyl. I will admit that I am a vinyl purist and very seldom use cd, but I am not the only one. Being a cd only dj can often be looked down on and affect bookings. There is nothing wrong with playing cd's for tracks that you cannot get or play on vinyl, but playing all cd's can be looked down upon. There is so much control with vinyl and there is a sense of gratification when you pick up a rare record and get the chance to use it. If you intend on playing at home or for chill parties, playing all cd can be alright, but if you want to develop and play out, playing vinyl will be very important. I have a cd mixer too, but I only use it when I have to. But buying vinyl does cost a shit ton. I don't even want to know the total expenditure.

Are Sasha (recent convert to cd decks), Digweed, and Zabiela looked down upon? Give me a fuckin break. I spin both vinyl and Cd's. It's nice to be able to spin both. I learnt on CD's and the transition to Vinyl was simple. There are some great decks available for cheap. Check out the Numark Axis 8's, they're decent. Stanton also just realeased a new cheaper deck called the s-350. Cheap, and reliable.

Vinyl is great, but to say that you'll be looked down upon for spinning all cd's is shite. However, learnng both skills is important.

Im strongly thinking of purchasing 1 of the pioneers. Ive seen them used, and think they are really good.

Would it be possible to hook 1 up to my pc and try mix like

1 Pioneer / Traktor DJ Studio

Think this would get me used to the pioneer and if i didnt like it, i would be able to sell it.

I havent got 1400 quid to spend but i seriously like the look of them and stats of them. Another thing would be if i got 1, would i need amps and stuff. I have a hifi that would be fine for hooking up etc

To be honest, i have a 4 week job a year, making about 500 quid a week, and vinyl wouldnt really be worth it for me. Club life in my area is very poor, and i dont really think about going to any bars etc, as basically hardly nobody i know in my area is into trance. Maybe once i start a full tim job, i will proberly get a set of technics, and looking further into a djing career, which i would like when im older.

thanks for help guys. i am a bit thick when it comes to decks and stuff, so i welcome your help

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Originally posted by Gordy VINYL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all ........

Might never die, but cds are a hell of alot cheaper

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Originally posted by Orange Project I agree but even the greatest djs use a fair amount of cds

Very True

I went to gods kitchen in febuary, was ferrys album launch party, and he did use a large amount of cds. Was very good imo

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Originally posted by Orange Project Yes but if he becomes better he will spend another fortune upgrading and if he quits they will be worth nothing. If you get the real daddies then you can resale them or keep them forever

Your idea has a certain merit if he's interested in getting the industry standard, but quite frankly, the CDJ-800s can do almost all that the CDJ-1000s can do. They are missing the wave forms and the text, which imo are both not a big deal. Also, they have .05% accuracy compared to .02%. If you can only stand having the absolute best, then that might be a concern, otherwise even with .05% accuracy the CDJ-800s will stay beatmatched for over a minute and then only a slight push on the jog wheel will immediately fix it.

Also, if he has no need to scratch, then it's really unnecessary to get standalone CD players. It is absolutely possible to create perfect mixes with duel CD players. There's always the balance between price, quality, and need, and beyond a certain point I think that you pay more for the knowledge that what you're purchasing is "the industry standard" than for anything else.

*edit* According to my knowledge, the CDJ-800s also have something that the 1000s don't - the beat cutter. While many people wouldn't need it, it can really be a fun tool to employ.

you guys.... you make me laugh.

he said he can spend �600-�700.

as if he is gunna get a pair of cdj1000/800 AND a mixer for that...

Can anyone reply to my post above please ty

Keith

hey there keith...
i would stongly suggest investing in a dual cd deck?? the pioneer cmx3000 is a great piece of kit... 0.05 % pitch accuracy, master tempo, hot cues, realtime cues, wave display (like the cdj1000s) ,bpm counter (use this to grasp the fundamentals to beatmatching, after that tape it up) and a SORTA 'scratch' mode (not for serious scratching, just for neat tricks like backspinning) pretty good kit...i started off on these...and still learning even as i type this...

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Originally posted by eitook hey there keith... i would stongly suggest investing in a dual cd deck?? the pioneer cmx3000 is a great piece of kit... 0.05 % pitch accuracy, master tempo, hot cues, realtime cues, wave display (like the cdj1000s) ,bpm counter (use this to grasp the fundamentals to beatmatching, after that tape it up) and a SORTA 'scratch' mode (not for serious scratching, just for neat tricks like backspinning) pretty good kit...i started off on these...and still learning even as i type this...

Cheers mate
I was looking at these and thought they looked pretty good. ive seen similar used, made by denon and done pretty well. Might also consider these

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