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We truely live in pathetic times...

The "ban everything because it offends somebody" society has struck again. How long before they ban breathing in Canada?

Taken from the city of brampton website:

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Members of Council continue to receive complaints about ice cream trucks selling ice cream on City streets in residential neighbourhoods and are working with Peel Regional Police to have the vehicles removed. Now, vendors who are found selling ice cream on City highways will have their vehicles towed to a City works yard and the towing costs becoming a lien on the vehicle. City By-law 93-93 prohibits the sale of goods on highways.

PATHETIC!!!!!

Dude, you don't even know the circumstances behind these complaints, so quit being ignorant.

WHat are the circumstances? That the bells were annoying? The music disturbed people? Somebody had to drive around the truck?

Ice cream trucks have been around as long as the gas powered engine. Why is there suddenly a (perceived) problem???

I guess strolling around thru streets lookin' for kids isn't as profitable anymore?

Based on your quote, I don't find that they are "banning" anything really. They are just enforcing a by-law that was always there from the first place.

Maybe they can prevent people from selling flowers at intersections too? hmmm...

Why shouldnt people be allowed to sell flowers on the corner or ice cream from trucks? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Why shouldnt people be allowed to sell flowers on the corner or ice cream from trucks? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Well, that works fine for people that do it in a peacefull none disruptive manor. But how about I park my ice cream truck out front of your house with the music blaring, then I'll leave and continue to drive by every 30 minutes all day long.

That would be annoying, and intrusive on MY property and home. I don't bother random people in their homes.

So it's not just "selling ice cream", there could be more to it.

I believe above it says RESIDENTIAL STREETS, we're not talking about towing the guy out front of nathan phillips square here.

without knowing all the details though, I think that's pretty f***ing lame.

Really my only complaint about ice cream trucks is that some drive around late at night. One came around my neighbourhood at 10pm...while I'm up until at least 1am every day, I suspect many people, particularly kids, are not...and that IS disruptive.

What I find far more disruptive and annoying are those big advertisments being towed around on flatbed trucks. WTF is up with THAT?!? It's distracting to drivers which is dangerous and it impedes traffic on downtown streets. Ridiculous.

Right and ice cream trucks have been selling ice cream to kids on residential streets since the beginning of time. again i ask, why all of a sudden is it such a "problem"?

I think the problem is more with the people and their mentality than it is with the trucks.

i hope this "ban everything society" will soon wish that they ban hip hop!

I was joking about the flowers thing.

I do not know the complaints of the Brampton people, but either way - the ice cream trucks were causing some sort of problem for them and the police are using this by-law to handle those complaints. Simple as that. I was merely pointing that out - and do not neccesarily support this action.

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Originally posted by djshan i hope this "ban everything society" will soon wish that they ban hip hop!

It won't. The ban everything society only bans things that arent politically correct. If hip hop were done by white guys im sure theyd go after it much like mel lastman tried to ban Eminem on the same weekend 50 cent was in town.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Right and ice cream trucks have been selling ice cream to kids on residential streets since the beginning of time. again i ask, why all of a sudden is it such a "problem"? I think the problem is more with the people and their mentality than it is with the trucks.

Yes of course, the people driving these trucks are the same people who have been there since the beginning of time. So they must behave the same way too, that would never change right.

Whatever....

Im glad there are idiots out there that agree with this...

pathetic

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Originally posted by djshan i hope this "ban everything society" will soon wish that they ban hip hop!

Oh my.....if only

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Originally posted by goodnet I do not know the complaints of the Brampton people,

about 90% of the population in brampton consists of indian people, the rest are all others. i know this because i live in brampton also, and im also indian too!

What's truly pathetic is your inability to comprehend that there is a fucking political forum on this board, and yet you choose to post 5 different threads on the first page itself that have absolutely nothing to do with the Toronto music scene.

You fucking running for office or something ? If you aren't you should consider it. Talk about saying the same thing over and over again. God. Give us all a break and go make some sandwiches or something...

What are their reasons for banning them? Banning ice cream trucks is completely lame. Some of our fondest childhood memories are of chasing after the ice cream man.

Mind you, I was pulling out of a neighborhood the other night, when I suddenly heard this loud blaring carnival music, that nearly gave me a heart attack. Turns out it was an ice cream truck. Now, i did not grow up in Canada, but back in Maryland, we did not have such loud, startling music like that. I dunno if that's a Canadian thing, or a modern addition.

If its the music that's causing the problem, make the trucks change it back to a ringing bell, but don't ban them.

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Originally posted by tatgirl What are their reasons for banning them? Banning ice cream trucks is completely lame. Some of our fondest childhood memories are of chasing after the ice cream man.

they also say that it is highways they are banning them from. not streets.

damn straight ban them from the larger streets, they cause a commotion and kids could get hurt.

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Originally posted by Kytracid What's truly pathetic is your inability to comprehend that there is a fucking political forum on this board, and yet you choose to post 5 different threads on the first page itself that have absolutely nothing to do with the Toronto music scene.

yeah, this has been covered before also. he doesn't get it. at one time i think there were like 7 threads on the election and all spewing the same conservative garbage.

Oh whoops! highways.... ya, I think it is common sense not to stop on a highway unless of an emergency.

nevermind.

imagine growing up without the icecream man, now thats being unfair to kids.

ICE CREAM VENDORS TO RECEIVE FROSTY TREATMENT ON HIGHWAYS

>> Source <<

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Members of Council continue to receive complaints about ice cream trucks selling ice cream on City streets in residential neighbourhoods and are working with Peel Regional Police to have the vehicles removed. Now, vendors who are found selling ice cream on City highways will have their vehicles towed to a City works yard and the towing costs becoming a lien on the vehicle. City By-law 93-93 prohibits the sale of goods on highways.

While I understand the selling on the highway bit (what dumbass would do that??), I still don't understand the complaints?
Where the hell are they supposed to sell ice cream?
Commercials areas???
I will agree that;
a) the music is just way too damn loud; they could stand to turn that down a few notches and
b) ice cream trucks shouldn't be out after say...9pm? Anything after that would be pushing it in my books.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess they also say that it is highways they are banning them from. not streets. damn straight ban them from the larger streets, they cause a commotion and kids could get hurt.

the legalese term for all roads whether they be streets, expressways or neighbourhood lanes is "highway" so this means ALL streets in the city of brampton, not just the 410 or hwy 7.

kytracid: that was straight from the city of brampton's website in full form. And yes they are banning them completely from city streets which means you may only park them in parking lots on private property.

As for the thread whiners.... all i can say is how many people respond to my threads or any other thread that is "off topic"?

You are just like those guys that come up to house djs and say "if u play hip hop me and my 4 friends will dance" and meanwhile there is a packed house dancing to whatever it is he's playing already.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You are just like those guys that come up to house djs and say "if u play hip hop me and my 4 friends will dance" and meanwhile there is a packed house dancing to whatever it is he's playing already.

WHAT ? That made no sense at all. Care to break down that complex analogy for someone not as smart as you, jayx1 ?

Here's the way i see it. You're the kind of guy who no one listens to outside a club (real life), so you walk into the booth (Toronto Music Forum) while the DJ (mods) has his back turned. Pull the record off the needle, grab the micro phone (your computer) in hand, and start shouting the same thing over and over again. When people look up to you in surprise and point you to the appropriate venue where you can voice your concerns (the political forum), you just shrug and play dumb. Why ? Well, i'm sure everyone who has montiored your posting habits in the last few months will probably have their reasons. I'd say you're just bored, and enjoy the prospect of stirring up a debate, no matter how pointless it is or where it takes place. I'd go on to suggest that the reason you won't take your posts to the political section is because there you actually run the risk of facing opponents who will step forward and take you on...in the process tearing your argument to bits. Posting here just seems the safer option because most of us will just give you shit -- and attention, which you along with a few others on the board love to crave.

So back to my analogy...there you are, with the power in your hand, on your soapbox...er, i mean locked up inside the booth (the Toronto Forum), screaming over the mic that this is a place where ALL topics should be discussed...basically, everything you deem to be important. Then proceed to ramble on and on, spewing forth rhetoric while the rest of the bewildered masses just look up in shock horror hoping someone kicks you the hell out, and turns the music back on.

A little bit longer then yours...and not quite as eloquent. But i think you get the jist of it.

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