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Canada, FNC, USA, O-Reily... oh my.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128151,00.html
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This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," August 4, 2004 that has been edited for clarity. Watch "The O'Reilly Factor" weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the "Radio Factor!" BILL O'REILLY, HOST: On July 6th, I reported that a poll taken in Canada found that 40 percent of teenagers there thought America was a force for evil in the world. The number rose to 64 percent among French-Canadian teenagers. On July 16th, one of the guys who took the poll, Rudyard Griffiths, wrote in the Toronto Globe and Mail this, quote: "The first sign that the Drudge Report mention was whipping up a tempest in a teapot came in the form of a screed by a Canadian baiter and top-rated Fox News personality, Bill O'Reilly." Joining us now from Toronto is Mr. Griffiths, who is the director of the Dominion Institute. All right, where am I going wrong here, sir? RUDYARD GRIFFITHS, DOMINION INSTITUTE: Well, what I really took exception to is your comment that America's got the franchise on liberty and that you said, straight to the record, that Canada was equivalent to France, the Canadians had freed nobody, whereas Americans had freed hundreds of millions of people across the world. O'REILLY: Right. GRIFFITHS: That's just straight out wrong and it's a statement that I resent and that a lot of Canadians resent. O'REILLY: OK. GRIFFITHS: The truth is, we fought together in the First World War. We went into that war three years before you did, by the way. O'REILLY: Right. GRIFFITHS: We fought together in the Second World War (search). We went into that war about two years before you did. You know, about 10,000 Canadians served in Vietnam (search), and you sent about 16,000 draft dodgers up here. You know, in Bosnia, in Afghanistan (search), you name it, we've stood shoulder to shoulder with Americans, we've bled with Americans for the ideals of democracy and freedom, yet... O'REILLY: All of that is true, but also true is the fact that America was a driving force in World War One and World War Two to liberate Europe from the Nazis and that's the main theater in which you fought, and Canada helped. And Canada also helped in Afghanistan, by the way, and we respect that immeasurably. But my point was that the Canadian media and the Canadian education system is now skewing their reportage about America so that all of these children, millions of Canadian children, feel that we are an evil force in the world. They're not providing perspective to the children up there and I believe I'm absolutely correct, sir. GRIFFITHS: Well, you know, perspective is often a problem and the problem is that the images out of Iraq are pretty negative, and that a lot of young people are watching TV a lot more than they're taking to their textbooks. O'REILLY: Look, they're negative if you put them in that kind of a context. Certainly, no American wants anybody else killed in Iraq. But if you give a balanced presentation, which the CBC does not, the Toronto Globe and Mail does not, and say to your children, "Look, this is a rough war. This is a tough thing. But a brutal dictator who killed hundreds of thousands of people is out of office, 56 million Iraqis, or whatever it is, 36 million, have a chance at self determination." So it's not black and white. America is not the bad guy in Iraq. It might have been a mistake, but we're not the bad guy, Mr. Griffiths, and we are being portrayed in your country as such. GRIFFITHS: No, you're not. Public opinion in Canada was pretty divided going into that war. O'REILLY: When you've got 64 percent of French-Canadian teenagers saying America's a force for evil, you've got a problem in the media and education up there. GRIFFITHS: Look, I think this is a temporary problem, but it's a problem for Americans and it's a problem with this current president that you've got. O'REILLY: Not a problem for America. We have a balanced media here. You don't. GRIFFITHS: Well, look, I think you've got a real responsibility as one of the leading network personalities in America to give a balanced assessment of Canada and Canadians' views. You can't just cherry pick one statistic out of hundreds of surveys and say that that's Canadians' views of Americans. O'REILLY: We have been tough... GRIFFITHS: We love your popular culture. We love... O'REILLY: We have been tough on Canada because Canada, Chretien particularly, has been brutal on us. All this stat said to me was that the Canadian media and the Canadian education system is not giving the U.S.A. a fair shake. And I will stand behind that analysis and I'll give you the last word on it. GRIFFITHS: Well, you know, two years ago when I appeared on your show and had the privilege, I invited you up here for a Canadian beer. I think you turned me down. Come on up... O'REILLY: I didn't turn you down. It's just a matter of whether I can get up there or not. GRIFFITHS: Some great ale, (UNINTELLIGIBLE)... you know, it's not getting south of the border because of mad cow... O'REILLY: Look, Toronto is a great town. I'm going to have to come to Toronto... GRIFFITHS: Please do. O'REILLY: And I'm going to have to straighten you guys out. GRIFFITHS: We'll roll out the red carpet for you. O'REILLY: I'm going to have to come up there because you won't take the Fox News Channel, because your government is afraid of it. GRIFFITHS: We watch it on the Internet. O'REILLY: So I'm going to have to come in person to do it. Tell your government to take us so then you can watch us every night and then the kids would get a fair shot. GRIFFITHS: OK, you're on record, you're coming up to Toronto. O'REILLY: All right, Mr. Griffiths, thank you very much, we appreciate it. Give the kids the fair shot. |
can you keep him?
is that guy a retard? is this for real?
If we get Fox news....canadians will become extremely stupid.
He's comparing CBC to Fox... hahahaha, is that even worth addressing?
Here's a funny article on O'Reilly:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly
hahahaha FOX vs CBC, thats a funny comparison.
Matt,
I don't see why you posted this thread, upon reading the quoted article it looks like O'Rielly has a decent point and he makes it fairly. Canadians are negative against America because of your biased news.
And to the rest of you people, if you don't actually watch (or even have) the Fox news channel how can you make judgement comments on it?
where does lie the intrest of the CBC to bash the Americans??? please explain this to me. The CBC lead by muslim journalists and arabs are doing everything they can to bash the americans and brainwash Canadians... yeah sure.
or, unless telling things how they are becomes "biased" in the eyes of the americans (or fox news in this case).
in other words, if a news agency says something that the americans don't agree with, its automatically marked as "biased".
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| Originally posted by FuzzyGreen And to the rest of you people, if you don't actually watch (or even have) the Fox news channel how can you make judgement comments on it? |
its really funny actually
Just take a look at the main page of Fox news...and compare it with CBC
I laughed out loud...what a fukin joke Fox is
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| Originally posted by FuzzyGreen And to the rest of you people, if you don't actually watch (or even have) the Fox news channel how can you make judgement comments on it? |
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| Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Matt, I don't see why you posted this thread, upon reading the quoted article it looks like O'Rielly has a decent point and he makes it fairly. Canadians are negative against America because of your biased news. And to the rest of you people, if you don't actually watch (or even have) the Fox news channel how can you make judgement comments on it? |
the CBC should be taken off the air for their biased "national" reporting. A network that is the seed of the Canadiangovernment should not be taking sides when reporting on a story. the CBC has had countless complaints from citizens throughout Canada for their favouring of the Arabs/Pals over Israel in the way they report 'the story', and for their sheep like programming that only mimics the BBC - once again another national farce!
One might expect that in approaching the controversial topic of the Middle East, the CBC would carefully avoid giving even the slightest impression of taking sides. It is all the more surprising, then, to discover that in the very first sentence on its Middle East homepage, the CBC introduces Canadians to a decidedly one-sided version of history:
�Since May of 1948 when the modern state of Israel was proclaimed, the land has had two parallel histories, one for the Jews who control the state and one for the Palestinians whose homeland the nation was built on.�
The CBC thus introduces the topic as a power dynamic, in which Israelis have all the power and Palestinians are a victimized people dispossessed of their land. In this CBC version of events, the Palestinians are the obvious owners of the land on which the Jews run the show.
http://honestreporting.ca/critiques.php?critique=26
OF INTEREST: Responding to the CBC's coverage of the capture of Saddam Hussein, a National Post editorial yesterday blasted "yet another example of left-wing, anti-American bias at the CBC" and suggested that "perhaps Canada's public broadcaster should be subject to oversight by a more pro-active, hands-on board whose composition is determined by less partisan criteria."
A list of CBC critiques can be found here:
True colours of the CBC
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| Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef the CBC should be taken off the air for their biased "national" reporting. A network that is the seed of the Canadiangovernment should not be taking sides when reporting on a story. the CBC has had countless complaints from citizens throughout Canada for their favouring of the Arabs/Pals over Israel in the way they report 'the story', and for their sheep like programming that only mimics the BBC - once again another national farce! One might expect that in approaching the controversial topic of the Middle East, the CBC would carefully avoid giving even the slightest impression of taking sides. It is all the more surprising, then, to discover that in the very first sentence on its Middle East homepage, the CBC introduces Canadians to a decidedly one-sided version of history: �Since May of 1948 when the modern state of Israel was proclaimed, the land has had two parallel histories, one for the Jews who control the state and one for the Palestinians whose homeland the nation was built on.� The CBC thus introduces the topic as a power dynamic, in which Israelis have all the power and Palestinians are a victimized people dispossessed of their land. In this CBC version of events, the Palestinians are the obvious owners of the land on which the Jews run the show. http://honestreporting.ca/critiques.php?critique=26 |
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| Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef OF INTEREST: Responding to the CBC's coverage of the capture of Saddam Hussein, a National Post editorial yesterday blasted "yet another example of left-wing, anti-American bias at the CBC" and suggested that "perhaps Canada's public broadcaster should be subject to oversight by a more pro-active, hands-on board whose composition is determined by less partisan criteria." |
hahhha the national post bitching about the CBC, what a surprise
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| Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef the CBC has had countless complaints from citizens throughout Canada |
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| Originally posted by discojoe We probably get more American point of view than our own supposed Canadian biased propaganda. And needless to say WE certainly get more American perspective from our news than Americans get from anywhere else in the world. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King If we get Fox news....canadians will become extremely stupid. |
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| Originally posted by Superstar DirecTV, but also I think we get cable stations from nearby US cities like Buffalo that broadcast Fox News. Doesn't really matter though, nobody watches Fox for news, it's more entertainment... kinda like WWE is "real" wrestling. |
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| Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Do you have proof to back up this claim? Have you ever spent time here in California? Your opinion is a guess on your part. Sad. |
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| Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Have you ever had fox news? Have you ever really watched it? I'm not talking about O'Rielly, but the channel in general. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King Yes, i have had fox news for several years, I have Direct TV and it gets every single major network in the US, including the west and east coast feeds for all FOX networks I also get local buffalo news here in Toronto, and Canadian news as well as Satellite feeds in the Middle East/and Europe Fox news is by far the biggest joke of them all. Once, the headline news was Britney Spears giving the finger proceeded by a celebrity court dispute. I watch it to laugh If you honestly think that FOX news is "newsworthy" i truly feel sorry for you. P.S We canadians probably have more US news channels in our TV than Canadian, yet we still recognize how idiotic the programming is in the US. You cannot compare CBC and FOX onthe same level, cbc is unprecedented compared to Faux News For fucks sake, they have the "terror" level alert thing on their main page...give me a fuckin break |
CBS news
MSNBC
CNN
FOX
guess which is the only station that features the Kerry/war vet story on their front page?
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