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While mixing for the final master, is there a generally accepted technique as to whether you EQ before Compressing each track, or vice versa?
I'm kind of sloppy in this regard...which comes first, or does it not matter that much? Should you just follow your ears?
EQ should be the very last thing u apply
there's generally no rights or wrongs when it comes to this matter...
what you should keep in mind is that if you apply the EQ before the compressor and change any parameters on the EQ you'll have to doublecheck the compressor and prolly redo the setting for it since the signal will be diferent than before 
If you compress(maximize) and then add EQ without LIMITER then CLIPPING 100%!!
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| Originally posted by Sebraa If you compress(maximize) and then add EQ without LIMITER then CLIPPING 100%!! |
EQ is my best friend,
compressor i never use.
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| Originally posted by Massive84 compressor i never use. |
you must be nuts! i compress nearly everything.. filo and peri gave a tip on here about making sure you compress your leads which is true... compressing your leads, pads, basses, etc etc makes the volume level throughout the instrument consistent..
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| Originally posted by alanzo EQ should be the very last thing u apply |
I also try to avoid compressor as much as possible while mixing. I might compress some parts of drums but definitely not all of'em, I hardly ever compress basslines either (eventhough you can get very good results compressing kick and bassline). Compressing everything just makes the track loosing it's natural sound, my tip is to use eq to fix sound instead of compressing. Sure the compressor is handy if the levels are "jumping" too much when recording. I use a light/moderate compression on mastering stage if needed.
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| Originally posted by SgtFoo IN TERMS OF FINAL MIX, ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE COMPRESSION HAPPENS LAST!! EQ AFTER COMPRESSION WILL CREATE CLIPPING AND DISTORTION!!!!!!!!! |
When I say compress the final mix, that could be just compression, or the extreme of compression, being limiting. It all depends on what amount of mastering needs to be done to the final mix.
Anything done to the entire final mix of the track (usually over just the stereo mix) is considered mastering. compression and limiting is used most often on pretty much everything that gets released, to some extent.
I've spoken to mastering engineers, and they've mentionned how LOUD and hard-limited the newest Linkin Park album is. It's waveforms are almost perfect rectangular blocks!... but it just goes to show that limiting or compression is what's necessary as the LAST thing you do to the final mix to give it the pro-sound we all seek.
(ppssst!...btw alanzo: NO NORMALIZING!.. YOU NAUGHTY BOY YOU!)
Re: EQ/Compressor
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| Originally posted by tupsox While mixing for the final master, is there a generally accepted technique as to whether you EQ before Compressing each track, or vice versa? I'm kind of sloppy in this regard...which comes first, or does it not matter that much? Should you just follow your ears? |
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| Originally posted by Vizay compressing and maximizing is not the same thing...you can maximize something with a compressor but that's not it's main use... I suggest you read up a little more on compressors if you have that problem with clipping after compressing |
sebraa: my intention wasn't to make you look like a newbie to the subject, my apologies for that
well anyway, it seems like some of the people here in the thread are talking about EQing and compressing in the mastering process and some are talking about EQing and compressing on single instruments in the mixing process
well just some general guidelines(no rights or wrongs really as long as the final result is good)
Mixing: a good tip is to compress all the instruments in the mix, we're mostly not talking about much compression here...just a tad on every instrument to make shure you don't get any nasty peaks anywhere and to make it more level
mastering: what you do before the limiter is totally up to you but always put the limiter last, if you EQ after limiting the clipping will probably go wild on ya (this even goes for equalizers that decrease something. it's been proved that even if you decrease with a EQ it can still increase frequencies and so on)
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| Originally posted by Vizay sebraa: my intention wasn't to make you look like a newbie to the subject, my apologies for that well anyway, it seems like some of the people here in the thread are talking about EQing and compressing in the mastering process and some are talking about EQing and compressing on single instruments in the mixing process well just some general guidelines(no rights or wrongs really as long as the final result is good) Mixing: a good tip is to compress all the instruments in the mix, we're mostly not talking about much compression here...just a tad on every instrument to make shure you don't get any nasty peaks anywhere and to make it more level mastering: what you do before the limiter is totally up to you but always put the limiter last, if you EQ after limiting the clipping will probably go wild on ya (this even goes for equalizers that decrease something. it's been proved that even if you decrease with a EQ it can still increase frequencies and so on) |
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| Originally posted by alanzo EQ should be the very last thing u apply |
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