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discuss:.. trance & hippie philosophy/ideas

discuss:.. "we trance lovers are modern 21st century hippies."

i'll reply once there's interest/posts of opinions to contend/agree with.

hippies tend to shun materialistic ways, while many 'trnace' fans search for more and more materials things. MP3s, CDs, Vinyl, tables, MD, IPOD etc.

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Originally posted by j_spot hippies tend to shun materialistic ways, while many 'trnace' fans search for more and more materials things. MP3s, CDs, Vinyl, tables, MD, IPOD etc.

A contradiction to your point however is that many DJ's & Producers (not all) say they do it for the love of the music. This would be an example where trance is very non-materialistic. The fact that fans seek to acquire music and related technology might be indirectly seen as materialism, but I'm sure you could come up with the same argument for 60's hippies who may have also had large collections of "hippie" songs.

In fact, I think most people do not collect music to accumulate wealth, but rather to enjoy the trance experience as much as possible.

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Originally posted by SgtFoo discuss:.. "we trance lovers are modern 21st century hippies."

Do "trance lovers" have a common socio-political stance in any regard? The many differing posted opinions on this board would dictate the exact opposite.

Both movements tend to reject the contemporary (well they both originated in rebellion but I think eventually became an attributed subculture of the norm).

p.s I miss school

Ravers & Candi Ravers are the nu skool hippies.

IMO, we ain't even close of being hippies.

No...I disagree I am SO far from being a hippie

Hippies actually had a philosophy that they could articulate. I don't see how listening to slightly unusual music is worthy of a special title. The only real connection I could make is the one John mentioned, with candy ravers and Etards and cuddle puddles and all that.

I'm sure a lot of people in the '60s listened to Pink Floyd but weren't considered hippies.

keep in mind that a lot of hippies from the 60's are now today's yuppies.

However, a lot of the belief's that ravers and hippies share are the same. For example, PLUR - Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. Terms ravers use today and terms hippies used to live by. I think that today, being classified as a hippie means that you dress a certain way and have a certain state of mind. in the 60's, Hippies listened to psychedelic rock/classic rock, and that wasn't really all that uncommon. people could also listen to that music and NOT be classified as a hippie. NOW, I get classified as a hippie because i really don't listen to anything mainstream, and what i do listen to, no one else has heard of. Also my style is a little different than is advertised in the latest brand-names (which i refuse to wear.) So people call me a hippie....i don't really think that's a correct generalization. I mean, I believe in peace and a lot of other hippie values, but I would NOT go so far as to call myself a hippie. i guess in a way, you could call ravers the new hippies, because they are different and have different belief's, but in the original days, you'd have to be a bit more hardcore to be called a hippie.

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Originally posted by DeE420 Also my style is a little different than is advertised in the latest brand-names (which i refuse to wear.)

Let's all point and laugh... HIPPIE!!!

j/k

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Originally posted by starsearcher Let's all point and laugh... HIPPIE!!! j/k

hahahahaha....USED TO IT it doesn't really bug me...I'd rather be called a hippie than a bitch

nuskool hippies in my eyes equate to the kiddos who are against globalization, having an anti-consumerist attitude. I'm sure some of us share those beliefs, however I think the bulk of the club scene as we know it, doesnt give a crap about globalization and labour exploitation. I can count countless ladies and gentlemen at clubs sporting the newest shoes or dress that some little girl in Malaysia made. We're all guilty of it to some degree, its just a matter of how much stuff does one need.

We're forcefed the consumerist ideal on a daily basis. The idea that the only way we can be happy is to buy more stuff, or how satisfying that dairy queen icecream / McDonalds blizzard / Tim Hortons Ice Cap can be. Our society deems itself only happy when it has acquired a 5,000 sq ft suburban home with a Cadicallac Escalade with spinner rims in the drive way. Look at what MTV cribs, or RIDES shows our kids.

A nuskool hippie, see through all that, he/she realizes that to be happy, they don't need to buy buy buy like the multinational corporations want you to.

It doesnt relate anything to trance. Trance sold out to consumerism a long time ago. Multinational corporations love to get into every nook and cranny of the "nu underground" just so they can brand it as their own.

I don't see any correlation between Nu Skool hippes and EDM. Just go to Guv on a sat night, and look at all the people there, dancing it up with fake boobs, and new prada shoes.

Ravers, of corse, as stated before.

ok if we are hippies where is the free love???? i want my free love

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Originally posted by trancechaos ok if we are hippies where is the free love???? i want my free love

Yeah seriously where are all the topless/naked women??? Wait...I take that back...there are some scarry women out there too

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Originally posted by SgtFoo "we trance lovers are modern 21st century hippies."

Who's quote is that exactly?

My reply: Um, no. I am not a hippy.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Who's quote is that exactly? My reply: Um, no. I am not a hippy.

I would say we are more of the new generation - the future ... and we are smarter than the average bear EH BUBU!

hahaha...hippies? no.

do we share some common elements? perhaps...

For the most part, the trance scene (and EDM scene in general) is very inclusive...people meet complete strangers and party together...the PLUR thing is still alive and well in many people's minds

Instead of sharing a joint though, people now might split an e

I was at a house party a few days ago and a friend who i haven't spoken to in a while who's also a complete addict to trance music and all the "enhancements" to the trance feeling and such told me that quote.

Coming from him, it didn't seem very intellectual, but then I thought that it's worthy to discuss it, simply because we share similar ideals that the 60s/early70s hippies did... such as..

PLUR... this must be the most hippie style acronym we've used at events so far.

Then I thought of WEMF!!!!!!....WEMF!!! of all things!...it hit me in the face outright!... woodstock was the hippie gettogether of their era. WEMF is our era's getogether of the modern 21st century hippie.

a 2st century hippie, as I think it, is one who had adapted into the new information/technology age, and used it to embrace music we love.

I think that if the pure basis of the 60s hippie was only the socio-political issues they had, then we are not those 60s hippies. If it was about loving the music, which in turn gave every1 a feel-good time and made ppl get together and realize unity from loving a style of music so much, then i believe that every one of us who can't get enough trance music into our ears, is in effect, a modern 21st century hippie.... but that's just my take

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Originally posted by SgtFoo Then I thought of WEMF!!!!!!....WEMF!!! of all things!...it hit me in the face outright!... woodstock was the hippie gettogether of their era. WEMF is our era's getogether of the modern 21st century hippie.

Um... what about Love Parade? Dance Valley?

I truly love EDM and our scene but I don't think it makes us any more "modern" than our peers. My favourite dudes (and dudettes) on this board to party with are the down-to-earth ones who don't see trance music as an integral part of their personal identity. It's a common interest... fun parties... but not a way of life.

fuck PLUR.

the only reason someone can call themselves a hippie these days, if they fight The Man, protect the earth, eat only shrubs and wear ponchos.

there is a lot of people that i have met that i would consider hippies right now and it has nothing to do with the music just like it didn't have anything to do with the music back then.

the only thing close to being a hippie festival right now in Canada is the Om fesitval.

I think the thread is about 'modern day' hippies.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess the only reason someone can call themselves a hippie these days, if they fight The Man, protect the earth, eat only shrubs and wear ponchos.

Don't forget about huggin' trees.. you're all a bunch of tree huggin' hippies!

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Originally posted by Dr. Z I think the thread is about 'modern day' hippies.

so, yeah, neo-hippie right?

modern day hippies do exactly the same thing as past generation hippies. except less acid is around.

and jenna, yeah it was me that kept calling you a hippie and you are! what's your shampoo? buttermilk mixed with honey and sand?
(ps, just buggin ya).

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess buttermilk

Buggermilk?

LOL... i love causing temporary chaos in this board

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