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I'm so pissed off right now (Doom 3)

I have a f**** Precision workstation with dual 2,66 GHz Xeons, 1 Gb
266 MHz ECC DDR-RAM, and a Quadro FX 1000 with 256 mb ram.

And the game lags as HELL.

The game runs at 800x600, medium quality and it's almost impossible to play.

Well well, I'm sure there's alot of other dissapointed people out there. And I realize that my card isn't actually meant for gaming, but come on! Dual Xenons!? Do I have to steal a supercomputer from the go vernment to play this game?


Cheers....

I'm guessing its your video card as my processor is just a singe xp2600+ and I also have 1GB ram at 333Mhz DDR PC2700.

My card is also lots older than yours, its a GF4TI4200 and I can play on High settings across the board with 800x600.

Here are some links to some tweaks that maybe will help you out

http://www.sysopt.com/articles/Doom3Tweak/index.html

99% of games are design for 1 cpu. your dual setup is a waste and u are also using Workstation video cards. it might or might not have all the features of the consumer video card but it is optimize for appz not gamez. get a retail stuff not workstation stuff for gamez

I feel your pain. Some suggesetions...

Isn't the Quadro FX 1000 a card that excels in opengl apps and used for graphic workstations that do CAD, 3DSMax, Maya, and that type of thing? Its not really made for gaming is it? I'm wondering if its holding you back. That card's direct3d performance might be lacking but I could be wrong. What is your 3DMark 2003 score with your system? You can compare your scores to others with the same setup on the Futuremark website as you to help determine what is going wrong.

Finally, and this helped my performance BIGTIME, go into your Doom III directory and into the Base folder. Now edit the DoomConfig.cfg file. Go down and find the value seta image_cacheMegs "20" Change that 20 to 256 since you have 1 GB of RAM. Now run the game and you should notice a big increase in your FPS. After making this tweak, I'm now able to play the game at 1024x768 at High Quality and its totally smooth whereas before that tweak, I had to run it in 800x600 at Medium Quality and it choked all over the place. Good luck!

Also check out this tweak:

This is a guarenteed way to get a MASSIVE performance increase to your game, at the expense of taking up a little more hard drive space (2 gigs approx). I went from running low quality at 800x600 to running High Quality on 1024x768. This improves load times AND framerate/details.

There is a catch! By doing this, you temporarily can't connect to pure multiplayer servers. You have been warned (I'll tell you how to revert it at the end)

After installation, the Doom III Folder consists only of the doom3.exe and some .PK4 files. Those PK4 files includes the entire game (sounds, videos, textures etc.) compressed. They are normally uncompressed in mid game, which is very hard on your CPU. Lets fix this!

1. Make a copy of ALL the files in C:\Program Files\Doom 3\base. This is some big filage, but if you want to revert to MP without reinstalling you need to do it.

2. Unrar the following .pk4 files (just pretend they are .rar's and open them with winrar) into the C:\Program Files\Doom 3\base folder (each one should unrar a single folder such as textures or models):

pak000.pk4
pak001.pk4
pak002.pk4
pak003.pk4
pak004.pk4 (This one has many files, put them all in \Base and over right any that apply.

3. Now delete the files above (pak000-004) or move them to another folder for storage so you can revert to multiplayer.

When you want to revert to multiplayer, restore everything you had before and get rid of the new stuff. I'm not sure if the folder "maps" is the same or not, so make sure you back that up.

When in normal mode, you should have "maps" "savegames" "config.spec" "doomConfig.cfg" "doomkey" "game00.pk4" and "gamex86.dll", nothing else.

The game is CPU dependent more than anything. Think about it.

Yea Doom 3 acquires a really good video card. My best pick is either the new ATi radeon x800 series or the GFX 6800. But I still think you would be fine with a ATi 9800 series or a GFX5900/50 Ultra

I cannot believe that ID software would develop a game without being able to use mutli-processors, either its available right now, or it will be available with a next patch.

I would imagine the majority of gamers dont have the cash for dual cpu rigs, hence "ids" lack of intrest in implementing the feature.

It's the RAM.

exactly most people I know that have dual processors use it as a high end graphics workstation and have a separate machine for things like gaming, and other more mundane tasks.

um... id software has supported SMP (dual CPUs) since Quake 3 engine, and I'm sure Doom 3 supports it as well. I believe the command is r_smp 1? Not 100% sure but I believe all Quake 3 engine games support SMP as well.

Get a new video card.

Your prob is your video card.

Played the game on my friend's 2ghz P4 and it lags... SPECS are ridiculous!!! but Id has always been this way, they just cant seem to be able to build a freakin engine that doesnt require a monster rig to run, like everybody buys a new PC every year

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Originally posted by N|te-L|fe Played the game on my friend's 2ghz P4 and it lags... SPECS are ridiculous!!! but Id has always been this way, they just cant seem to be able to build a freakin engine that doesnt require a monster rig to run, like everybody buys a new PC every year

Actually the Doom3 specs were over hyped. I can play it on secondary PC, P4 2.8 w/ 9600 fine, and friend plays it on his XP 2500 w/ 8500, niether of which are "monster rigs". Sure it doesnt look as good as on my XP 2500@3200 and GF 6800, but even my specs are overkill. I get 50FPS at 1600x1200 @ HQ w/o any tweaks. If I knew I was going to get that much I wouldnt have spent $275 on the video card, especially since I havent touched the game since the release (needs better maps and a decent mod, yes I love MP).

Another example of id software engine is Quake 3. Ran fine on my lowend Celeron 333@550 w/ Voodoo2 24MB SLI which I originally got for Quake 2. Let's not forget the lovely r_picmip 5

Oh hey, you know Half-life which everyone including thier grandma's old Pentium onboard video system can run, is based on the Quake engine (w/ some Quake2 IIRC).

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Originally posted by La5eR Your prob is your video card.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
what he said



Doom 3 has some of the most advance graphics out there right now, and you can have the fastest processor/ram that money can buy, but you dont even have close to enough fire power to handle that game on your vid card. It runs more of your video card than anything else in your machine. After all the wait for this game everybody knew that months b4 it came out. I wouldnt have even attempted to run it with out a proper video card. Buying that game was a waist of money unless you plan on upgrading(video card) any time soon.

Re: I'm so pissed off right now (Doom 3)

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Originally posted by dbb I have a f**** Precision workstation with dual 2,66 GHz Xeons, 1 Gb 266 MHz ECC DDR-RAM, and a Quadro FX 1000 with 256 mb ram. And the game lags as HELL. The game runs at 800x600, medium quality and it's almost impossible to play. Well well, I'm sure there's alot of other dissapointed people out there. And I realize that my card isn't actually meant for gaming, but come on! Dual Xenons!? Do I have to steal a supercomputer from the go vernment to play this game? Cheers....

Update all the drivers.

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Originally posted by X-Multiply I feel your pain. Some suggesetions... Isn't the Quadro FX 1000 a card that excels in opengl apps and used for graphic workstations that do CAD, 3DSMax, Maya, and that type of thing? Its not really made for gaming is it? I'm wondering if its holding you back. That card's direct3d performance might be lacking but I could be wrong. What is your 3DMark 2003 score with your system? You can compare your scores to others with the same setup on the Futuremark website as you to help determine what is going wrong. Finally, and this helped my performance BIGTIME, go into your Doom III directory and into the Base folder. Now edit the DoomConfig.cfg file. Go down and find the value seta image_cacheMegs "20" Change that 20 to 256 since you have 1 GB of RAM. Now run the game and you should notice a big increase in your FPS. After making this tweak, I'm now able to play the game at 1024x768 at High Quality and its totally smooth whereas before that tweak, I had to run it in 800x600 at Medium Quality and it choked all over the place. Good luck!

Thanks for the tip. I can now run DOOM 3 at 1280 x 1024 with ultra high qualifty, all effects on and 8x antistrophic filtering

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