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Posted by euphoria on Aug-11-2004 15:47:

Hair Follicle Drug Test

Has anyone ever taken one, also do the detoxifiying shampoos work?

I have to take one next week and I got the shampoo. It says to use the shampoo right before the test and it will last 8 hours but any hair that is clipped will be left detoxifyied forever.


Posted by butterfly on Aug-11-2004 16:04:

i thought those are really expensive... what are you applying for that they would do that?


Posted by Subey on Aug-11-2004 16:22:

ya, very curious as to the circumstances surrounding the test...


Posted by Zewad on Aug-11-2004 16:50:

i had one and they said my hair on my head was too short,...they then threatened to go to other parts of my body to get the hair i.e. shave some of my leg hair off,... i convinced them my hair was fine

but if you are getting a hair drug test then all i got to say is good luck b/c there really isnt much you can do...


Posted by apostrophe on Aug-11-2004 16:51:

Re: Hair Follicle Drug Test

quote:
Originally posted by EyesOfExtasy
Has anyone ever taken one, also do the detoxifiying shampoos work?

I have to take one next week and I got the shampoo. It says to use the shampoo right before the test and it will last 8 hours but any hair that is clipped will be left detoxifyied forever.


Don't they usually just do piss tests? Drug testing is gay. If you dont come to work stoned, why should the employer worry about it? Not such a strong argument though.. :-/

As for the shampoos, I know a couple ppeople that have used them, but unfortunantly, they didn't work all the time. Maybe the user didn't use em correctly or something though. Good luck with this though. While I was in highschool my school did hair drug tests...it was scarey, but fortuantly I never got 'randomly picked.'


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on Aug-11-2004 17:03:

How does shampoo work? They test the folicle, not the strand...


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-11-2004 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
How does shampoo work? They test the folicle, not the strand...
magik!


Posted by apostrophe on Aug-11-2004 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
How does shampoo work? They test the folicle, not the strand...


Some traces of drugs, THC, cocaine, opiates... are detectable along the strand of hair. It gives the tester an idea of how long the user has been at it.. although with cocaine it's harder to determine how long you've been using because it 'migrates' along the hair. They test the strand as well, I'm pretty sure.


Posted by LinX on Aug-11-2004 18:08:

those tests are hard to fool, good luck..


Posted by th0m on Aug-11-2004 18:13:

Why don't you just move out of the country and get away from drugtest bullshit like that.

This is going quite offtopic, but why do they call the U.S. the land of the free when clearly they have regulations for everything? Everybody always says "It's a free country", well, doesn't look very free to me.

Oh and this is nothing personal or anything, but I just thought about it.


Posted by euphoria on Aug-11-2004 18:22:

It is not for work or school. But I need to pass the test to be eligible for a program to make some cash. Like $5,000 cash so its kinda important for me to pass the test. They have already done various blood tests on me but I didnt think they were for drugs, just to check blood type or medical history I assume. The didnt find anything, or at least they werent looking, but this time its a full medical exam including a hair follicle drug test. The shampoo I bought says they will give you double your money back if you dont pass the test. It says to wash your hair and then leave the detoxifying formula in your hair for 15 minutes then wash it out and it works for 8 hours but you cant put anything else in your hair or use a brush that may have toxins on it from previous use. So I am going to use it in the morning and go take the test. As for the hair. From what I hear the hair needs to be at least 1 inch long for them to be able to test it. They wont be able to take any hair from any part of my body other than my head. I will shave everything off the night before just to make sure.


Posted by occrider on Aug-11-2004 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by th0m
Why don't you just move out of the country and get away from drugtest bullshit like that.

This is going quite offtopic, but why do they call the U.S. the land of the free when clearly they have regulations for everything? Everybody always says "It's a free country", well, doesn't look very free to me.

Oh and this is nothing personal or anything, but I just thought about it.


Do companies in the Netherlands check the criminal history of a person before they hire them? If so than one can take your argument and use it for that too.

Companies like to do drug tests to make sure they aren't getting a fuck up in as much as they check criminal history to make sure they aren't getting a violent individual or someone who would committ fraud.

I think drug laws are retarded as well, however, it has nothing to do with being "free". To a company you can freely use all the drugs that you want, and they can't deny you any rights like the government can. They can, however, deny you a priviledge such as the job and it's their perogative to make that decision.


Posted by th0m on Aug-11-2004 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Do companies in the Netherlands check the criminal history of a person before they hire them? If so than one can take your argument and use it for that too.

Companies like to do drug tests to make sure they aren't getting a fuck up in as much as they check criminal history to make sure they aren't getting a violent individual or someone who would committ fraud.

I think drug laws are retarded as well, however, it has nothing to do with being "free". To a company you can freely use all the drugs that you want, and they can't deny you any rights like the government can. They can, however, deny you a priviledge such as the job and it's their perogative to make that decision.


I don't know if they check your criminal record at a job interview, I guess it depends on the kind of job. If they do, it is not something I am aware of (to compare this to the U.S., they even ask you whether you are a convicted fellon when you apply for college, which I think is a bit extreme).

I understand your opinion as to why drug tests are there, and why companies use them. However, I think that testing applicants for drugs is a bit narrow-minded. You cannot make any assumptions from somebody who smokes pot (I am assuming that's what we're talking about here?). Most people do it just to have a good time, socially, and not chronically. For those who do, I'm sure that will turn out at a job interview. If someone is using drugs, why do they automatically get pushed into the 'fuck-up' corner?

As to testing for drugs and crimes, that is a huge difference. Your criminal record is checked mostly due to reasons such as safety on the workfloor, I would assume, more so than something that determines whether, again, you are a fuck-up.

Going back to the drugs, personally I think this is a private thing as, of course, this does not affect your working ability. Which is a lot of times hard to assess when you talk to somebody during an interview, in which case a drug test would rule out all drug-users so you won't have to find out the hard way. But since we are talking about personal things, why not test people for using alcohol? I mean, there are plenty 'fuck-up's' who are addicted to alcohol. And yet, there also seem to be a lot of people who are able to casually enjoy, say, a beer. I don't see the difference between alcohol and weed in that matter.

And I could go on, like should we go into people's backgrounds, are their parents divorced, is he gay, is he religious, what car does he drive. And so on. And before you know it, you're the leading actor in Equilibrium. (not an accurate description, I know, but I liked the movie )

Anyway, this rant went on way too long and I don't really expect you to read it, but ohwell, here goes.


Posted by spec on Aug-12-2004 00:28:

Re: Hair Follicle Drug Test

quote:
Originally posted by EyesOfExtasy
Has anyone ever taken one, also do the detoxifiying shampoos work?

I have to take one next week and I got the shampoo. It says to use the shampoo right before the test and it will last 8 hours but any hair that is clipped will be left detoxifyied forever.


If you smoke weed, you are fucked!


Posted by tranceDJ on Aug-12-2004 01:33:

Move to Canada...I'm pretty sure they don't do bullshit drug testing there. Hair tests are expensive...they're extremely hard to fool, good luck.


Posted by whitesmoke on Aug-12-2004 02:23:

just shave your head too. that will do the trick.


Posted by tu_face on Aug-12-2004 08:43:

random high-school drugs tests take the piss.

drug tests in general take the piss.

in my experience, you can usually tell a fuck-up after about 10 minutes of being with them, just by the way they react to things and the way they are when nothing is happening/being said to them.

i can understand how companies would want to rule out skag/crack etc completely, but i don't see how they can justify testing everyone and turning down the stoners/pill heads. for all they know, the pot-head may well be better at the job than someone who has never had drugs in their life. and in my experience, pills generally open your eyes to a lot of things in life (so long as you are sensible) which surely is an advantage?

so long as people don't turn in fucked out of their mind, and can do their job to a good standard, then its not really a problem.


Posted by XaNaX on Aug-12-2004 10:59:

quote:
Originally posted by EyesOfExtasy
It is not for work or school. But I need to pass the test to be eligible for a program to make some cash. Like $5,000 cash so its kinda important for me to pass the test. They have already done various blood tests on me but I didnt think they were for drugs, just to check blood type or medical history I assume. The didnt find anything, or at least they werent looking, but this time its a full medical exam including a hair follicle drug test. The shampoo I bought says they will give you double your money back if you dont pass the test. It says to wash your hair and then leave the detoxifying formula in your hair for 15 minutes then wash it out and it works for 8 hours but you cant put anything else in your hair or use a brush that may have toxins on it from previous use. So I am going to use it in the morning and go take the test. As for the hair. From what I hear the hair needs to be at least 1 inch long for them to be able to test it. They wont be able to take any hair from any part of my body other than my head. I will shave everything off the night before just to make sure.


Good luck to you. I doubt this will work but hey what have you got to loose. If they break a hair test out on you I think you are basically screwed.


Posted by euphoria on Aug-12-2004 12:41:

I have already confirmed there will be a hair test. If I fail then I fail whatever I dont get the money, but if I pass I get $5,000. Wouldnt you try anyway just to test the theory. I am not loosing anything if I fail, just gaining if I pass.

This is not for work. I have a great steady corporate job and they do no such tests here at all. I may use illegal substances but I do my job and do my job very well at that so they would never think of testing me at my job. I come in early everyday, I help fill in when people call in sick. All around they see me as a very helpful employee.

I take the test next Thursday morning and I am not sure how long it takes to get the results. But I will definetly update this thread and let everyone know my experience once it is complete.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Aug-12-2004 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by EyesOfExtasy

This is not for work. I have a great steady corporate job and they do no such tests here at all. I may use illegal substances but I do my job and do my job very well at that so they would never think of testing me at my job. I come in early everyday, I help fill in when people call in sick. All around they see me as a very helpful employee.


I know where you work...just a phone call away HAHA jk Z got nothin but love for ya! i would never blow up your spot cuz mines would get blown up too LOLS...anyways from my knowledge and experience, a hair follicle test is virtually impossible to pass for however long you've been using. the follicle must be from your head and no other place on your body. the only solution would be to shave your head and for a female, I don't think that would happen. for a guy yea its not a problem. my best suggestion would be to take as many necessary steps to prevent them from finding out, and then just cross your fingers. or maybe bleach your scalp? HAHA..not to be extreme or anything...

good luck to my customer, my vendor, the good ol'e barnes n nobles! LOLS =)


Posted by euphoria on Aug-12-2004 17:57:

Thanks Brian! Actually I have bleached my hair so I can get it that bright red color that it is. Hopefully all the hair chemicals I have used in my life will somehow throw off the test.


Posted by euphoria on Sep-29-2004 18:57:

I meant to update this post: What reminded me is a TA asked me some info about this today. Instead of typing this all over again I will just post my response to his email with omiting his name. By the way its BAD NEWS!!

My Reply:
Actually I meant to update that post. After telling me that I passed they called me back again and sent the hair to another lab because the first lab said that it was a possible false positive and thats what the shampoo did. It made the test look like a false positve. The other lab was able to do other testing and the shampoo could not prevent anything they found. They found out exactly what I was using, how frequently and at what times and how long ago. This test is hardcore. So needless to say they called me and said sorry but you failed. Tell your friend not to waste her time with the shampoo. If she has to take the test and there is no way out of it she is screwed. Also if a blood sample is taken in conjuntion with this test they can match it up, and there is nothing, I mean nothing out there that will clear your blood and substances take a long time to exit the bloodstream, as with urine it could take a month or so. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Also let her know, it is not just a few strands of hair, they literally take a chunk out of the center of your head so it cant be seen. The test isnt what it seems. I think they take too much hair if you ask me. I still have the damn bald spot. Its enough to make a small ponytail with. And also no amount of hair dye, chemicals or other products will affect this test in any way. The hair is put through a chemical purification process first and the substance that is inside the hair (follicle) is what contains the toxins.

If she wants to try the shampoo anyway, like if you dont beleive me(although I advise against it) the website is: http://www.clearchoiceofny.com/hair.html its cost $35.00 and the product is only supposedly effective for 8 hours. I followed the instructions very thoroughly. Also they state that there is a double money back guarantee if you fail. Its total BS. I emailed the company after I failed and they havent responded to any of my emails since.

[quote]
XXXXXXXXXX wrote on Today 13:40:
hello there,

i've noticed that you posted this thread a few months ago. You passed the test. A friend of mine is getting hair follicle tested in two weeks. It has been months that she did some drugs, but she just wanted to make sure she does get positive on anything. Please let me know the website that you ordered from, and that particular product.

Thank you very much

XXXXXXX


Posted by starlabs on Sep-29-2004 20:34:

Wow, interesting. Thanks for the update...

BTW it must've hurt like a motherf... I assume they pull it out since they need the follicle too? Or do they just cut it off?


Posted by beats and beeps on Sep-29-2004 23:43:

Shave your head. It will give you that genuine sinead o connor drugfucked look.


Posted by -=M=- on Sep-30-2004 00:11:

Re: Hair Follicle Drug Test

quote:
Originally posted by EyesOfExtasy
but any hair that is clipped will be left detoxifyied forever.



if they test the root they can see "residue" from up to 2 years ago


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