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Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-15-2004 18:14:

So you think we have freedom?

Click here and scroll down to the subection "games" and then tell me we have freedom.

http://www.oakville.ca/Media_Files/1999-159Parks.pdf

I can see rules for a park being "no glass bottles, no pets off leash, and stoop and scoop" and maybe even a curfew overnight so that people dont cause trouble, but this is bloody ridiculous!


Posted by Kris on Aug-15-2004 18:48:

err, it froze my IE...


Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-15-2004 19:06:



ur IE lacks freedom ..


Posted by aarontrance on Aug-15-2004 19:15:

Wow, I guess the term "public" park is used extremely loosely in Oakville. Lame


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-15-2004 21:24:

i have the feeling these bylaws are similar everywhere.

I remember going to the park in argentina. On weekends they were packed. Full of people playing sports, picnicking, bbqing. I was enjoying a cold beer from the cooler as were several others. Some people started playing loud music and within 5 minutes there were about 30 people (strangers) dancing. People were there of all ages. Families, kids, old people, teenagers. No one got "offended" by kids playing and making noise, or people playing music, or somebody having a beer. All things that should go on in a "public" park.

When i commented to my argentine friends that none of this could never happen in canada they couldnt even begin to understand why not, and how could i explain it to them? To them this was as simple a pleasure as breathing fresh air, as it should be!


Posted by Superstar on Aug-15-2004 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i have the feeling these bylaws are similar everywhere.

I remember going to the park in argentina. On weekends they were packed. Full of people playing sports, picnicking, bbqing. I was enjoying a cold beer from the cooler as were several others. Some people started playing loud music and within 5 minutes there were about 30 people (strangers) dancing. People were there of all ages. Families, kids, old people, teenagers. No one got "offended" by kids playing and making noise, or people playing music, or somebody having a beer. All things that should go on in a "public" park.

When i commented to my argentine friends that none of this could never happen in canada they couldnt even begin to understand why not, and how could i explain it to them? To them this was as simple a pleasure as breathing fresh air, as it should be!


All of Canada isn't like this... Quebec is a LOT more relaxed with their rules... go to Montreal on Sundays for tam-tams at Mount Royal


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-15-2004 21:37:

French Canada is an exception to the rule in many cases, probably because they are of latin culture. Latins typically wouldnt put up with the shit that we do. Tell someone in montreal that they cant smoke at a club and theyd laugh at you and blow smoke in your face. I wish english canada had balls like this.


Posted by malek on Aug-15-2004 22:35:

yeah we really need people drinking beers and alcohol in parks, more hooliganism, no thanks. (it is forbidden in Quebec too)

And about the smoke, I pray every day that a law banning smoking in clubs and other public areas here in Montreal. I would go out more often for sure.

It was so comfortable yesterday to walk around the casino without getting bothered by chain smokers. (they were all crammed in smoking room! HA!).


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-15-2004 22:37:

funny, but i didnt see any "hooliganism" the whole time i was in argentina except at a soccer game.

All i saw were families with kids playing sports, mom making food and dad having a beer.


Posted by goodnet on Aug-15-2004 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by aarontrance
Wow, I guess the term "public" park is used extremely loosely in Oakville.


Probably...

I could be wrong, but it looks like that rule (as stupid as it sounds) is meant to ensure that those little league teams, which get permits from the city, are the ones entitled to use the baseball/soccer fields for thier games & practices.


Posted by malek on Aug-15-2004 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
funny, but i didnt see any "hooliganism" the whole time i was in argentina except at a soccer game.

All i saw were families with kids playing sports, mom making food and dad having a beer.


you saw none, doesn't mean there's none. Thats the difference.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-16-2004 01:50:

I have an argentine sitting here right now telling me that in the 31 years she lived in argentina, she never saw drunken nor rowdy people in parks.



Its funny how our society portrays ANY consumption of alcohol as evil. As if having a beer is going to change people into a monster.


Posted by Crazy Serb on Aug-16-2004 03:01:

Any society that limits speed on highways to 100 km/h is just too tight-ass...


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-16-2004 03:03:

any society that tells kids that they cant play sports in a public park is down right pathetic.


Posted by malek on Aug-16-2004 04:49:

jayx1 you remind me of a friend (now ex-friend) who bitched all the time about the country, telling me that "this place is better than here, and that place is cooler" I kept telling him to move away. 10 years later, he's still bitching and I have stopped telling him to move away.

If you think that drinking beer in a park is such an issue, just move to Argentina man. Personnaly, I don't wanna see some dudes drinking beer in a park, looks ghetto and no one would want to see his kids running around some drunks in a park.


Posted by goodnet on Aug-16-2004 04:53:

I'll go with Malek on this one.

Why not move to Argentina? Nobody is forcing you to live in this country.


Posted by Diabl0 on Aug-16-2004 05:02:

dude..why don't you migrate to Argentina or something and stop complaining...so that we can free up some bandwidth here.


Posted by cereal3825 on Aug-16-2004 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
any society that tells kids that they cant play sports in a public park is down right pathetic.


"No person shall engage in playing any game such as baseball,
basketball, cricket, croquet, football, golf, rugby, soccer, tennis, nor
any other game that involves the projection of any object through the
air, such as archery, except in areas designated..."

Way to trist words, it says to play sports where designated too.

And also, who says they are actually inforced.

Steve


Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-16-2004 05:42:

KarateKid



LOL.. how wonderful


Posted by Rodrico on Aug-16-2004 06:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
I have an argentine sitting here right now telling me that in the 31 years she lived in argentina, she never saw drunken nor rowdy people in parks.



Its funny how our society portrays ANY consumption of alcohol as evil. As if having a beer is going to change people into a monster.


He wont move to Argentina, cause its a economic shithole there. Just like Chile....

Please Jayx1, to live as a real South American, you should try seeing some of your own family not able to buy enough socks for the year, or have friends who cant even find their own country on the map with their amazing public education.

The people are good to each other, cause its all they have to hold on to, faith and community.

As for the park thing, its not that bad, plus you should know, most South Americans put their alcohol in cups so that no one knows their drinking! its the spanish way!


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-16-2004 10:27:

Don't worry, I'll be retiring somewhere warm as soon as possible Ive already lived in south america and made quite a good living while i was there. I plan to do it again.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-16-2004 10:32:

quote:
Originally posted by cereal3825
"No person shall engage in playing any game such as baseball,
basketball, cricket, croquet, football, golf, rugby, soccer, tennis, nor
any other game that involves the projection of any object through the
air, such as archery, except in areas designated..."

Way to trist words, it says to play sports where designated too.

And also, who says they are actually inforced.

Steve


Areas dseignated means that if there are no soccer nets, you cant play soccer. You must play whatever the city has decided you can play in that particular park, in that particular area. Also, did you read where it says the city can actually tell you how old you may be, how big you may be and how many people can participate?


Posted by St_Andrew on Aug-16-2004 12:07:

to me it sounds like this laws are not really enforced. more like if some kids play some game and don't take responsibility for it and perhaps may hurt someone, then the guard can tell them they cannot play there, but otherwise he will not.

of course that is just speculations


Posted by Spyder on Aug-16-2004 12:36:

i just consider that a wEird law....


just like these ones
http://www.lawguru.com/weird/part02.html

(btw i have left my house with no undies once.. do i pay a ticket now?)


Posted by malek on Aug-16-2004 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
to me it sounds like this laws are not really enforced. more like if some kids play some game and don't take responsibility for it and perhaps may hurt someone, then the guard can tell them they cannot play there, but otherwise he will not.

of course that is just speculations


Bingo!


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