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hi, i�ve been djing for a while now but these days i�m noticing that my hearing is getting in some way damaged... i mean, i have tinnitus (the high pitched ringing in my ears) and i feel that if i keep djing i will ultimately end up deaf...
i don�t know what to do, i really like djing and i don�t want to stop but i also want to keep my hearing... i�m only 19 and i�m still ok but i�m afraid it will get worse over time
i thought about getting better headphones perhaps ( i currently have sony mdr v 300), so as to reduce the ambient noise and use them at lower volumes, but I think that even at lower volumes mixing 2,3 or more hours is going to hurt me too...
what would u do?
i�m quite confused as this is something I really like and I was really only starting to get some feedback from it
anyway, I just wanted to share it with someone
peace

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Originally posted by Nou That sucks! I know Freak has said he has issues with his ears, maybe he can give you some advice.

Yea, I know he's posted the link (at least I think he has) a few times to some special ear plugs you can get that filter out the damaging frequencies and still allow you to hear everything that's going on. If I do remember right they're a bit pricey, but if you want to keep spinning and keep your hearing they might work for you. Hopefully he will pop in and provide the link seeing as I can't find the thread and the search function is disabled.

No need to quit, there are ways to protect your hearing. By the way, how can you stand using the mdrv 300's? I had a pair of those just for listening before i started djing, and i thought they were horrible.

yeah, i know, the sony�s suck, but when I first purchased my equipment i bought them with some gemini decks and I got a deal, but they aren�t very good...
how can i protect my hearing? i can still hear quite fine and I don�t want that to change soon, I am going to buy earplugs even if I quit, since I�ll still be going to clubs and parties
now, i am aware that i should not mix at full blast when at home but now my concern is that even at low volume after an hour or so I have an strange feeling in my ears, I dont know if its due to the crappy headphones or the music not being softer enough

high quality earplugs

you should go see a doctor.. if i were you i wouldnt give up until i had no choice. so you have a choice now to see a doctor and ask him wat you can do. good luck

i went to etymotic�s site and i saw there are 3 models, er 9,15 and 25, is er 25 the way to go?
thanks for the replies

4:17 am
Just got in from work

www.hearingprotection.co.uk


Get some ER15s/20s


I do have issues with my ears nou- i HATE loud noise Kinda strange considering my profession.
I also have had tinnitus since birth- not severe- but its there. think of the high pitched sound you get when you turn a tv set on and thats what i have permanantly in my ears.

You will get a strange feeling in your ears when one ear monitoring if one is louder than the other, also if excessively high volume for prolonged periods.
Mixing at low volumer entirely in your phones will help, but i mix for up to four hours or more a night in my phones and they are dulled afterwards.

Doesnt help that i have a reoccuring ear infection that wont disappear (4 months later its still there)

I use plugs whenever i am in a loud bar, a club or any other place with excessive volume- look after your hearing- it cannot be fixed.

Ill postsome more when im not knackered tomorrow

It's not small periods of loud noises that damage the hearing, but it's over the longer periods in loud environnements that damage the hearing.

And pontiac, you really should see a doctor. He'll tell you what to do. Maybe it's just nothing and you're worrying for nothing. It could be psychological

If you are DJing at home I would question the levels that you are using. No need to make yourself deaf when DJing at home.

If it's club related get plugs ( I use them), if it's in the bedroom turn the volume down.

Cheers
Nem

as well as what everyone else said, have a look at the sennheiser hd280's. they are great for blocking out ambient noise. i always try and keep my headfone volumes down, and these definitely made it easier for me to do that.

don't quit until your doctor tells you to quit, but do be careful when mixing, get those earplugs and avoid having pounding speakers with high SPL's near by.

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Originally posted by Freak I do have issues with my ears nou- i HATE loud noise Kinda strange considering my profession. I also have had tinnitus since birth- not severe- but its there. think of the high pitched sound you get when you turn a tv set on and thats what i have permanantly in my ears.

I have the exact same feeling.... and the ringing has been there for a while, even before djing (perhaps due to clubbing??) still not very annoying tough... I will get the earplugs and for the mixing volumes i think i have them soft enough, i mean i have the phones gain knob at 9 o clock

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Originally posted by Tiger777 And pontiac, you really should see a doctor. He'll tell you what to do. Maybe it's just nothing and you're worrying for nothing. It could be psychological

yeah, I already have plans of going to the doctor next week, or as soon I finish studiying for some tests I have... I will tell him about the earplugs and see if I can get the earmolds done

I�ll get the hd280 pro, are they good enough or should I invest more money on better ones? It�s my hearing after all


thanks for the help
keep spinning! (at low volume)

edit: I forgot, Freak: do u have the custom made earplugs or the generic ones?

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Originally posted by dj_pontiac I�ll get the hd280 pro, are they good enough or should I invest more money on better ones? It�s my hearing after all

as far as cutting out ambient noise is concerned, they are fantastic, offering a cut-out of -32dB. they sound mint too

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 If it's club related get plugs ( I use them), if it's in the bedroom turn the volume down.

What earplugs do you use, Nem?

I can speak for er20's. I've got a pair and they work suprisingly well and they're only about $15 US.

i have the same problem as you dj pontiac, the ringing in my ears used to be really low for the last few years but ever since ive started dj'ing ive noticed it get louder - its quite scary actually, especially when im only 18

earplugs are to expensive for me, so im gonna go with tu_face's suggestion and buy myself some sennheiser hd280's (thanks for the tip btw)

i saw also some pioneer ones that looked quite good, they were the hdj 1000, are these ones better than the hd280? I ask coz i browsed www.pssl.com and the hd280s were 99 dollars and the pioneer 149...

i'll vouch for the pioneers, i love 'em to death. i've even begun using them for casual listening at my house and whenever i need to study in isolation...i used the sony 700 if i remember correctly and then they broke on me, so i decided to fork over some extra cash and get the pioneers...they're very comfortable and i've found that my ears don't hurt as much after i'm done spinning.

The HD280s are excellent for cutting out outside noise and for being extremely comfortable (going around and encompassing the ear instead of on the ear). However, they're made for monitoring purposes, and because of it, they have a flat frequency response. In short, if you're used to typical DJ phones and/or speakers, you'll notice a decrease in the amplitude of the bass, and your initial reaction will be to turn up the volume to make up for it, so make sure you're careful with that.

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Originally posted by dj_pontiac i saw also some pioneer ones that looked quite good, they were the hdj 1000, are these ones better than the hd280? I ask coz i browsed www.pssl.com and the hd280s were 99 dollars and the pioneer 149...

go for hd's. the pioneers hurt my ears if i listen to them normally for any time longer than an hour, dj'in is fine cause i monitor with one ear only. the hd's have cups that completely encircle your ear, so nothing is actually sitting on it.

Ive got the hd 25 and they are fab..

One Question do I buy the ear plugs and ove tht use head phones to block high freq. cos mos of em ear plus have cables attached to them, is tht cos U they replace headphones??

I wanna keep my hd25 , but wud like a ear plug to block high freq. ne model or brand U ppl know of.

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Originally posted by dj_pontiac i saw also some pioneer ones that looked quite good, they were the hdj 1000, are these ones better than the hd280? I ask coz i browsed www.pssl.com and the hd280s were 99 dollars and the pioneer 149...

i think the hdj1000's cut out -29dB, which isn't bad, but it means the sennheiser cut out nearly 50% more ambient sound.

u DONT need earplugs if u just want to spin at home.. if u keep below a certain level (i thought i was around 90Db) u can listen as long as u want to it and it won't damage your ears.
I use earplugs which filters the noise..i hear everything perfectly just softer excellent for club DJs.
Do a hearing check and repeat this every 0.5-1 year to make sure that your not destroying your ears. You might not notice it now because your still young but once u get around 60-70 u will suffer from it.

I got al this info from a hearing specialist where i got my custom made plugs from (they were 150 � ).

My mom has tinnitus and trust me u dont want to have it

either get some custom ear plugs (150+ $ ... cheaper in the uk I hear ( no pun intended ))

Earbud headphones could be an option but you would need higher end ones ( Shure, Etymotics, and others make great ones but you're also looking at 150+ )

Counting on some regular headphones to block outside noise is unefective because when exposed to high pressure sound you must be protected at all times.

Don't mess with your hearing; Don't pay attention to those who laugh at you because you wear ear plugs.
Get yourself some protection, you'll be thankful of it!
(Ok that sounds like a campaign for condoms or something lol )


I particurlaly have an issue of getting headaches inside my right ear ( mind you I don't dj but I go out a LOT ) and I wear ear plugs just about every time I go out; a bit over protective; but if I don't do it I get massive headaches. Unsure what I have but it's like my hearing is extra sensitive.

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Originally posted by jdat Counting on some regular headphones to block outside noise is unefective because when exposed to high pressure sound you must be protected at all times.

the point was that if you have headfones that block out a lot of ambient noise, it means you can have the volume a lot quieter in the headfones. but yes, when there are high SPL's about, earplugs are your best option (as well as some good headfones)

Do you guys think that technology will ever permit a way to recover hearing that is already lost?

They need to come up with a way to replace the eardrum & tiny hairs in your ear that are stimulated and then transfer the sound onto the nerves i think.. some kind of bionic ear. That would be nice.

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