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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-20-2004 17:52:

Al Azar - Forever Forgotten (2004 Update)

Seeing how the current trend seems to be updating old tunes (Mart ) I thought I'd post this one here as well.

Al Azar - Forever Forgotten (2004 Update) (7:37, 112kbps, 6.1MB)

This is our only track that follows the "epic trance" formula... massive breakdown and build with all the power directed towards the lead synth. This update doesn't really differ from the original that much, it's just brought to our current level production wise. I was never fully satisfied with the sound quality of the original and I guess we can finally say we've gotten it to sound the way it was supposed to sound in the first place

Anyways, hopefully you'll enjoy it.

-Nik & Mart


Posted by Luke Terry on Aug-20-2004 17:59:

Cool



tuneypoo


Posted by montana on Aug-20-2004 18:00:

gashness on a complete new level, nah just kidding, nik & mart, this is great stuff, cheers


Posted by nialsjd on Aug-20-2004 18:05:

still nothing for Remedy?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-20-2004 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by nialsjd
still nothing for Remedy?

Remedy hasn't really been a priority for us, to be honest. We're currently working on a new track, maybe after it's done we'll get back to Remedy and see if it needs updating... but to be honest we don't really have any idea about what's going to happen to it.


Posted by Sunquest on Aug-20-2004 18:27:

omg, i love this classical piece
looooooong time i didnt hear this nice piece in a song, im a sucker for classical moments
this is just truly amazing, u know what u guys should do, add piano to it as well, to make it fuller and more emotional, just like Aces Delight always does, hes got the classical with a piano, try it guys, itll work
great work


Posted by Gladius on Aug-20-2004 21:48:

luckily it doesn't differ from the original one. What a great tune . Already became an instant classic for me!

btw, when will your new track be finished?


Posted by _Marco_ on Aug-20-2004 22:15:

mint just like the previous version


Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Aug-20-2004 23:15:

Really this is not much different from the original, thought I still think it's great.

Looking forward for anything new by you guys, keep us updated here on the boards.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-21-2004 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Gladius

btw, when will your new track be finished?

Well we only started on it yesterday so not very soon


Posted by [mart] on Aug-21-2004 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Gladius
btw, when will your new track be finished?


Give it a year or so.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Aug-21-2004 08:10:

sounds nice so far, just at the build up at the mo. i think this has a very good drive, and to compliment the drive of the kick and bass, some extra percs thru out the whole buildup could really work, just some quiet but really rolling hats for example. but they do pick up again later in the build up so ill shut up about that :P i dont like that breakbeat.... the clap is far too quiet at that part. i think if your going to use a breakbeat it would much better with a different kick sound and a different clap/snare to the rest of the piece. At the break now, sounds very nice, maybe it drags on a bit at first, but once the synth comes in, the melody easier to follow. Its just a very long melodic loop which at first is hard for me to try and follow, but like i said as it kicks off its really nice The good thing about using really long melody loops is that they rarely sound repetative, and so they dont get boring, but also, the mood can be varried alot, and thats been pulled off very well here i think. As the melody progresses, it portrays different feelings, like excitement, happiness, posibly danger! its cool how it does that. really nice tune anyway very well made. keep up all the good work, sounds mint.

Mike


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Aug-21-2004 08:10:

sounds nice so far, just at the build up at the mo. i think this has a very good drive, and to compliment the drive of the kick and bass, some extra percs thru out the whole buildup could really work, just some quiet but really rolling hats for example. but they do pick up again later in the build up so ill shut up about that :P i dont like that breakbeat.... the clap is far too quiet at that part. i think if your going to use a breakbeat it would much better with a different kick sound and a different clap/snare to the rest of the piece. At the break now, sounds very nice, maybe it drags on a bit at first, but once the synth comes in its easier to follow. just a very long break to try and follow, but like i said as it kicks off its really nice The good thing about using really long melody loops is that they rarely sound repetative, and so they dojnt get boring, but also, the mood can be varried alot, and thats been pulled off very well here i think. As the melody progresses, it portrays different feelings, like excitement, happiness, posibly danger! its cool how it does that. really nice tune anyway very well made. keep up all the good work, sounds mint.

Mike


Posted by Timothy on Aug-21-2004 10:27:

The build-up of the intro section is really nice. Very original that you used a breakbeat in the breakdown after the intro. It's a really nice song


Posted by Dr. Pils on Aug-21-2004 13:52:

Nice, I've heard this track before, is the original also produced by your group?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-21-2004 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pils
Nice, I've heard this track before, is the original also produced by your group?

Yep


Posted by en2t on Aug-21-2004 18:53:

Listening. Solid kick/bass combination, reminds me of Octagen's sounds. Some techy sounds playing in the back slightly, which is a plus. A minor suggestion - I hear various percussion elements as well as most of the synths in the background (including the main lead fading in) all processed with reverb, this makes the sound a bit muddy and takes away from the track's crisp. Ok strings coming in now, heavy with reverb BUT lack stereo width. The strings are loud enough, have lots of reverb, but the original source of the sound does not pan very effectively, so no matter how big you make it sound it'll still have a flatness to it =/ Another personal preference comment here, the strings are very orchestral, classic strings, which I think is getting outdated in trance. A much more effective choice, in my opinion, is the use of nifty synthesized pads which are more spacy and proggy. Okay anyway moving on to the lead, it's got the same issues in terms of not being wide in the stereo field. It's loud, very audible, but doesn't play mind tricks with your ears through intricate panning and left/right channel delaying. The melody is nice and memorable, a plus. Solid work overall, and I know I was a bit picky - but you guys are good enough producers so that I don't have to point out huge faults, and can just focus on the smaller elements that make a track truly stand out. Take care.

Stan.


Posted by [mart] on Aug-22-2004 11:24:

Thanks very much for your comments, you're very kind.


Posted by david.michael on Sep-13-2004 15:37:

Love it! Great track!


Posted by John on Sep-15-2004 11:33:

i like the old version better, cos that came in 192kbit j/k

sounds have definately improved. the track is still as great as it used to be love it.

john


Posted by optik on Sep-15-2004 12:12:

sounds pretty nice - quite -=to the formula=-

could do with some work in the perc department - some phased shakers wouldn't go a miss

and I would love to hear a really searing lead come in over the top of the chords

nice

op


Posted by d-miurge on Sep-15-2004 12:34:

Really good, you have all in this track, technic, melody, rythmic, emotion...
Perfect ?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-13-2004 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by d-miurge

Perfect ?

That would be quite scary... I mean if one would indeed create a perfect track then would there be any point in producing anymore?


Posted by alieu on Oct-18-2004 20:57:

Nice track! I don't know if you're a pro dj, but you really sound like one


Posted by JoeyEnv on Oct-18-2004 22:56:

This is vintage Trance. Exceptionally produced an perfectly mastered. Every club needs a tune like this imo. Great stuff.

--joey


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