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Why 3 decks ?

Hi,

I'm a DJ myself, and I rarely get the opportunity to spin with 3 decks. But seriously, what's the point of 3 decks in trance ? If you break up a song after 3 minutes because you can mix a bit faster with 3, the audience will burn you ? Yet I see some guys spinning with 3 decks, and there has to be a good reason for this.. ANyone care to enlighten me ? I might install that third table then, I have one here doing nothing (not a really good one though, but good enough if you're not scratching or anything).

For example, and interview with Marco Bailey (techno DJ) he basically insulted every DJ that spinned with 2 tables instead of 3 because they were technically newbies... he didn't explain himself unfortunately, I always want to improve !

Let me know !

Cheers !

Re: Why 3 decks ?

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru For example, and interview with Marco Bailey (techno DJ) he basically insulted every DJ that spinned with 2 tables instead of 3 because they were technically newbies... he didn't explain himself unfortunately, I always want to improve ! Let me know ! Cheers !

Bahhhh!!!

The guys a moron, he should learn to mix with two dex instead of insulting people for not using three, he was complete garbage when he played in glasgow.

pfft, your hardly a newbie if you spin on 2 decks. for mixing for trance it doesnt really have a use unless you want to use acapellas or scratch.

but on other styles of music like techno, and i do it a bit with drum n bass, you can quite often have 2 tracks playing while your mixing a third, or atleast beatmatch the 3rd while your waiting for the 1st to end so u can mix the 2nd... if that makes sense.

just more freedom but hardly makes people who use 2 decks newbie.

here's the deal:

there's no reason to use 3 decks if you're a trance dj.

if you're a techno dj, you should use 3 decks... you can use 2 and be good, but just makes your life a lot easier with 3.

yeah it gives you more freedom
you should always do whatever you can to make your mixs more interesting
i don't have a third turntable but i have a CD turntable and two turntables. one thing i found that is fun to do is take a breakbeat song, loop the beat and then mix out of my ending track into the break beat loop and then mix in a new 4/4 on the floor track under that break beat, making that 4/4 on the floor track a break beat track.
theres lots of stuff you can do. just expirament

Marco bailey is a worse dj.
Always mistakes in every set.
Last time a saw him spinning was I Love Techno and it was so facking bad.
This guy has to shut his mouth...
Don't know why people book this dj.

I saw a breaks DJ a couple of weeks ago, "Czech" on 2 main decks, and he had an assistant DJ on a 3rd deck loading up new vinyl regularly and appeared to be cuing it or beatmatching, I'm not sure what. I couldn't figure out what he was doing, too dark and distant but it all sounded good.

I wouldnt say theres very much of a point to spinning 3 decks of trance, but theres lots of other stuff that pretty much requires 3 decks to be interesting (min. techno)

lmao @ having an assistant

there is 1 use for 3 decks if you play trance, and that is when your name is john askew. he lays techno beats and shit over trance and it sounds fantastic and very different.

other than that, there isn't much point with trance.

techno is a completely different kettle of fish, and its lots of fun playing 3 decks. i disagree with what marco bailey said though. although it is actually technically easy to just mix one track into another (when compared to having 3 decks on the go and beatmatching 2 tracks at once), he shouldn't go about dissing people for it, as the music that gets played in this fashion is often very restrictive i.e. trance.

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Originally posted by tu_face there is 1 use for 3 decks if you play trance, and that is when your name is john askew. he lays techno beats and shit over trance and it sounds fantastic and very different. other than that, there isn't much point with trance. techno is a completely different kettle of fish, and its lots of fun playing 3 decks. i disagree with what marco bailey said though. although it is actually technically easy to just mix one track into another (when compared to having 3 decks on the go and beatmatching 2 tracks at once), he shouldn't go about dissing people for it, as the music that gets played in this fashion is often very restrictive i.e. trance.

John Askew, good DJ and nice bloke.

Have to disagree a little with Tu-face though. You can work with three decks in trance admittedly not like a techno DJ would. (PS heard your techno mix and like it... nice work).

I like teasing people with records.
Take Mike Koglin - Pushed on. I like playing Push - Strangeworld over the top of it. If I see people get excited by this I will drop strange world two or three records later (Nearly always). When you use records and know the keys you can actually get creative with trance too when it comes to using three decks. It's almost like doing a live mash up. Always good to have the upcomming records prepared though before you start doing stuff like this.

I still think it's wrong that DJs should disrespect other DJs for not playing the same as they do. That actually makes Marco Bailey seem a bit ignorant in my mind. And let's face it, a turn tablist can to more things with one deck than most DJs can to on three. It's alway relevant to the music though.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 John Askew, good DJ and nice bloke. Have to disagree a little with Tu-face though. You can work with three decks in trance admittedly not like a techno DJ would. (PS heard your techno mix and like it... nice work). I like teasing people with records. Take Mike Koglin - Pushed on. I like playing Push - Strangeworld over the top of it. If I see people get excited by this I will drop strange world two or three records later (Nearly always). When you use records and know the keys you can actually get creative with trance too when it comes to using three decks. It's almost like doing a live mash up. Always good to have the upcomming records prepared though before you start doing stuff like this.

hehe, that mix was done on 2 turntables in march before i got the cd deck cheers for having a listen

there was always the odd mash-up i used to do when i played trance, but it is more difficult if anything. you are right, if you hit the keys right then it will work, but i was never one for harmonic mixing

To play constantly on three dex is one of the hardest thing you can do, You need excellent co-ordination and a good ear for out of time beats. Hence the reason I don't do it.

I am really thinking of adding a third turntable, but I can't decide between getting one turntable or dropping some more cash and just picking up two cd decks

The Norwegian techno producer Cave is always mixing on
three decks and does a really good job out of it.

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Originally posted by webbie The Norwegian techno producer Cave is always mixing on three decks and does a really good job out of it.

i heard a recent set by him at the weekend, its stupendous!

i've just shelled out on another deck for my setup. the plastic was paying so i got a mk5g (which IMO is the only tech worth having, but vastly over-priced) to go with my 2 vestax pdx2000's + numark axis 9. now i need a 4 channel mixer :/ need to save for nuo5

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Originally posted by chesco To play constantly on three dex is one of the hardest thing you can do, You need excellent co-ordination and a good ear for out of time beats. Hence the reason I don't do it.

I once played with 2 turntables and 2 CD-decks. Three records on and mixing in a fourth - that was wicked!

Mind you it was a Techno set. The people loved it. Too bad it was only a local birthday party.

When playing trance, three decks is a must for me anyways. There's always the odd acapella you can throw in, or a few good mash-ups.

PS, Plastikman's stuff owns when you have 3 or more decks 8)

i use three decks when mixing trance. sometimes i'll throw layers of other sorts of genres overtop and makes it sound quite nice. or i just use the third to tease in a track that i'll mix in later on.

i definitly disagree with the fact that having three is useless!!

two is boring.

the more sources to mix from the better.



oh and 3tt techno djs... ben sims fucken owns!!!!

and chris liebing.... 4 tune wizardry

Ok good info here, but stop dissing Bailey lol. He didn't say like 'Fuck all who plays on 2 decks'. He said something like 'Yeah I understand that some people like to mix with 2 decks, but I just think it's not a technical challenge to play a song for 8 minutes and mix in another one, that's why I like to use 3 decks' After the journalist asked/told him 'People say you are a very good technical DJ, do you consider yourself a good DJ ? Who else would you name ?'

Cheers

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru Ok good info here, but stop dissing Bailey lol. He didn't say like 'Fuck all who plays on 2 decks'. He said something like 'Yeah I understand that some people like to mix with 2 decks, but I just think it's not a technical challenge to play a song for 8 minutes and mix in another one, that's why I like to use 3 decks' After the journalist asked/told him 'People say you are a very good technical DJ, do you consider yourself a good DJ ? Who else would you name ?' Cheers

ah, that changes things , i have the same opinion.

A third TT is on the top of my equipment list. You can always make use of the extra source, no matter what the genre to get ahead of yourself beatmatching wise!

Plus there is the fun of ambient peice + drum loop = new tune to be had, applicable to BOTH trance and techno!

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i got a mk5g (which IMO is the only tech worth having, but vastly over-priced

what are you talking about? I would take a MK2 anyday... your nuts man

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Originally posted by djkonami what are you talking about? I would take a MK2 anyday... your nuts man

the fact that it has more than +/8% pitch range.

the way i play my techno means that sometimes i would like to play a track as part of a mash up (and sometimes on their own) at higher speeds than the record will go at +8. i like to throw in a bit of breaks over my techno here and there nowadays, and theres a lot of slow breaks records that if had bought a mk2, i wouldnt be able to play the record on that deck.

i am not going to buy a deck i can't use at all times

And to be fair, I don't have any issues with the Vestax decks as they are actually well made even if they are a little over priced in my opinion (or at least the last time I looked he he).

Cheers
Nem

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