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Posted by DJ Joshua H on Aug-24-2004 15:44:

OM or concorde style?

I think I'm gonna get a pair of ortofon's. I'm debating between getting the OM style or the Concorde style. What are the pros/cons of each as far as:

Sound quality
Tracking
Professionalism (mostly i've seen dj's with cartridge and headshell setups but alot of TA's recommend the concords. Is that because of the quick installation? looks?)

Also could anyone give me advice or refer me to a site that gives proper tonearm settings for the om's.

Thanks!


Posted by Tiger777 on Aug-24-2004 20:48:

Their caracteristics are the same. If you have a spare headshell, get the OM. If you don't, get the Concorde.


Posted by TwoPlow on Aug-24-2004 21:23:

I have a pair of the Concorde Pro S needles and I like them a lot. Decent sound quality, easy installation, and they look purty.


Posted by D Dubya on Aug-24-2004 21:49:

My advice would definitely be to get the Concorde carts. I have 2 pairs of them and I love em (the handles on the sides of the first pair were broken by some drunk girl at a party -- dumb)


Posted by auujay on Aug-24-2004 21:56:

I have concordes and originally got them over the OM because of ease of installation. Now I am more confident I would say go with either one (especially if you already have headshells). Concordes do look cool but the sound quality is the same.


Posted by tu_face on Aug-26-2004 13:32:

as far as i know there is no technical difference between the carts. the concordes look miles better and are much easier to switch. plus you don't have to fanny about with little shit screws to mount them.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Aug-26-2004 13:48:

These are pretty newb questions - carts aren't really my forte.

Do any carts fit onto any headshells?
I've got the stock Numark HS-1 headshell that came with my TTs, and am wondering if the OMs would fit onto it - I'm in need of some new carts and am thinking possibly the Ortofon Pro S OM carts.

Would the OM carts be MUCH better than just Stanton 500ALs?
I'm not a real serious DJ, so something that will look after my vinyls is more important than sound quality.


Posted by Luke Cartwright on Aug-26-2004 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
as far as i know there is no technical difference between the carts. the concordes look miles better and are much easier to switch. plus you don't have to fanny about with little shit screws to mount them.


Agreed, the stylus are the same so theres not gonna be much difference in the quality just cos of the cartridge.

My mate has the OM's and my tracking seems twice as good plus its easier to move the concordes with the longer handle bit.

Also those are OM's are ugly bastards, go for the concordes.


Posted by lyte on Aug-26-2004 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
These are pretty newb questions - carts aren't really my forte.

Do any carts fit onto any headshells?
I've got the stock Numark HS-1 headshell that came with my TTs, and am wondering if the OMs would fit onto it - I'm in need of some new carts and am thinking possibly the Ortofon Pro S OM carts.

Would the OM carts be MUCH better than just Stanton 500ALs?
I'm not a real serious DJ, so something that will look after my vinyls is more important than sound quality.



I would assume more catridges fit onto any headshell. I was told last night by a very popular record store owner in Cleveland that Ortofon Elektros sell very well and he has never had a complaint about them.. except one time by a scratch dj. I trust his judgement (him knowledge being much more vast than my own) and I'm buying them soon.


Posted by lyte on Aug-26-2004 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by lyte
I would assume more catridges fit onto any headshell. I was told last night by a very popular record store owner in Cleveland that Ortofon Elektros sell very well and he has never had a complaint about them.. except one time by a scratch dj. I trust his judgement (him knowing more than me) and I'm buying them soon.


Posted by lyte on Aug-26-2004 13:58:

OOPS fucked up!


Posted by tu_face on Aug-26-2004 14:11:

any standard headshell mounting cart will fit on any standard headshell. unless you lose the screws


Posted by Trance Nutter on Aug-28-2004 08:39:

How about wear on the vinyl?
Anyone know?

Thanks for the opinions so far - depending on my finances (after a large amount of vinyls I'm about to purchse!) I might get the Ortofons, and soon - my current carts are giving me the shits.


Posted by D Dubya on Aug-28-2004 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
my current carts are giving me the shits.


You're not supposed to eat them - lame joke, I know.

Anyways, I wish I still had the URL of a site that explains what each of the types of needles made by ortofon are used for and their level of record wear. If you do a little searching, probably on their site you will find it there. As a matter of fact, I know it is on the ortofon website.

For a different question, aren't there some ortofon carts that are made out of metal instead of that black plastic. Does anyone know the name of the cart offhand and have any experience with them?


Posted by auujay on Aug-28-2004 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.

For a different question, aren't there some ortofon carts that are made out of metal instead of that black plastic. Does anyone know the name of the cart offhand and have any experience with them?


I have Ortofon Concords that are silver and match the tone arm. Maybe you are thinking of those as they might look like metal if you just see them in a picture.


Posted by D Dubya on Aug-28-2004 18:39:

Damnit, so they just look metal? I knew it was too good to be true. I just want the handles on my carts to be idiot proof and not suffer the same fate as my previous set.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Aug-29-2004 05:43:

I woulda thought metal carts woulda been too heavy.....

Yours were the ones the drunk chicks broke if I remember correctly right? How bloody hard musta they yanked them to break the arm!


Posted by D Dubya on Aug-29-2004 09:48:

Sadly enough, not that hard. they just kinda leaned on them. It was always nice when I would come home, the tables would be spinning and there was a full beer can spinning on the turntable. If they only knew how much this shit costs.



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