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-- Is Dance Music Dead? (URB Jan/Feb 01)

I read a interesting article in the latest URB (a U.S music-culture mag for you Euro's). Moby, and several others comment on how played out and tired the dance club music scene is here in America. Having recently begun listening to European Dj's I'm tending to agree. What the kiddy clubs and radio streams are playing is commercialized music that has no place in the genre of "trance" (aka kraftwerks anyone?).

The one Dj who may yet continue to bring a fresh sound to the states I believe is Christopher Lawrence. Heard enough of the stuff he makes to put him up there with Tiesto and PvD (in my mind anyways).

Wondering if anyone has read or feels the same way?

~Scree

what the hell r u talking about/?

eh?

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Originally posted by MoSH_MaN what the hell r u talking about/?

I don't see how you are confused, that made complete sense. He said that dance music here in America is commercial, even what many consider trance. And then he asks what anyone who has read or heard of the article thinks. It really isn't that difficult...peace.

Aaaaaah ,it took a while but there it is:difference of continents!

trance is not going away

Trance will die when everyone forgets it... and i'm not gonna forget my fucking life !!!

I think the present incarnation of it will.. just like anything which gets extremely commercial .. .it'll get tired and die out ... look what happened to disco... it started out as funk which kicked ass.. then it got popularised... for several years it was big .. then the public got tired and moved on to something else.. don't get me wrong I like uplifting melodic stuff .. but I think that what will continue to exists once this phenomena happens (what happened to disco) .. will be GOA/Psy/Acid trance cuz It never got big and I don't really see how it could... it's not marketable enough... the melodies aren't catchy enough to play on MTV or something......

I'll personally always have a special place in my heart for trance but .. to be honest the collapse of the globalisation of trance won't break my heart... It broke my heart to see it bastardised and beaten into the present state it's in right now...

commercial music sux!!!!

a more recent example of how commercialization (i think i misspelled smth here, it looks too weird!!!) destoyes music is gabber...

gabber got REALLY commercial, everything started to sound the same, the atmosphere within the scene got bad, and the music died...

now, i see it come back a lill, but not as large as then, and it sure will never be again...

but i dont want this to happen to trance, so i say: do ANYTHING to avoid the commercialization of trance, cuz if u dont, ur killing it urself!!!
if u luv trance, dont buy commercial cds n stuff

so i totally agree with Synder, but since im repeating him, that was obvious already

and Moby saying the scene is dieing, he is one of the ppl responsible for that, like Jean is in Holland

man... you guys are scaring me!!! "is dance music dead".. hmmmmm... i guess it's inevitable. dance music is such a broad term. there's always gotta be something though. if disco was in and is not out, what's supposed to take over!?! I hope it's HARDCORE rap and country!!!! ... i can't wait

im gonna get hell for this one.....

Yeah fred I think you are right. 'Dance' music dying? I guess every type of music ever made is gone then - people can dance to anything. heheh. Things always change, but they are usually related to the past in some way. The way some of you peeps talk about trance is the way I have felt about Alternative, or yes even Hip Hop at previous junctures of my life. Am I currently addicted to some types of electronic music? Yep. Will it always be this way? Maybe, but probably not. Rather than worry about it too much now, I just live it up. And for those of you who say that country or rap sucks, just think of everyone that says the same thing about 'techno shit'. Yes, there is a lot of bad harcore rap out there, but then again some really great music has come out of the gangsta rap movement too. I won't try to defend country since it seems so universally hated, but that doesn't mean it as an entire genre is all terrible music. Many people rave about the GOA movement in trance, basically the beginnings or the genre. Do the same with every type of music you 'hate' and you will probably find something that you might, god forbid, actually like! I am not coming down on anyone, just using djfreds comments for support. What I am saying is that you should repsect every type of music as it means something to somebody somewhere, but that doesn't mean you have to like a genre in it's entirety or at all. >>
Find what you love - don't worry about everyone else.

Here, if you like hip hop and trance try -
Talib Kweli and DJ HiTek - Too Late f. Res
It's absolutely euphoric and not all 'bling bling'.

peace.

Dance music in America is dead??? That's messed cuz I think its really developing (not that there hasn't been developments already) I think there's a lot more underground than you're aware of.. next time buy XLR8R instead (not that it's underground, but I respect it more than urb)

I can't believe you'd hear that from urb tho, what are they going out of business??

latez...

Biznology makes perfect sense btw..

re: Confusion

Seems a little confusion in response to the post, URB did not say dance (aka electronica music in general) was dying. They posted a letter on how one of the beggining founders who popularized music (Moby...at least in America) is saying the scene is tired in America. I mistook the audience of this site... forgetting most of you are in Europe somewhere over the rainbow.

Moby has every right to say what he choses, seeing as how hes probably sold more CD's in America then any other "Electronic" artist. Although I won't disagree with anyone when they say hes a sellout (all his music plays on commericals.... very much the comercialized music. Moby went on to say how the club dj's all play the music they hope is cool so they dont alienate theyre audiences. He's just trying to say.... its time to experiment or move on or something

I just thought this was an interesting letter... when i get back home ill post it if you want.

~ScreE

I dunno but I dun think Moby should say that, is he dissing himself?? dance music is dying and he's like number 1... weird... I think that America is going through a messed up time in music with POP and all that crap but there's more and more people getting into dance music it seems and raves etc etc... if it gets full blown and becomes the new POP it'll "die" but really it will never die... it hasn't died since the beggining and never will... there's always gonna be creative people pushing the boundaries and making cool, intelligent, thoughtful or at least creative and enjoyable music.. this is probably true for any type of music...

I did misunderstand what was said about Urb... they really would be going through tough times if this was their idea..

that's all I wanna write or else I'll be nagging or something boring...

latez...

i live in the US... and ok, where I live, I get no exposure to trance music at all.. i can only get personal recommendations from friends or look on this website to see what new tracks Swamper has put out for us. And with the issue of dance music being dead, I'm not sure about that. Personally i am tired of hearing all this mainstreama pop Backstreet Boys crap. ok, it ain't bad the first time around, but after the 1000th time they play it in the same day, it gets quite irritating.. so yea, i'm not sure about dance music in general, but I do think that the US needs to focus on other music genres (like trance ).

byebye

btw, Moby rocks.

My opinion

No no. Moby "used" to rock. (My opinion)

I hate pop culture

yeah

I agree that Moby is not what he used to be. Not that he isn't talented, cause I am sure whatever else he makes will be cool. But now that he is so popular, MTV and radio will be over that so quick it won't be tolerable. I remember when Play was a masterpiece, before MTV and radio bastardized it like a year and a half after it came out. Boo Moby. His older stuff is less played, but I really don't even bother anymore. peace.

trance music shall never die

as long as the freaks like us are still waiting to see great djs come out to clubs at 6 or 7 in the morning i dont think anything will happen to trance. it may get commercial and may be chewed up by the masses and spit out after a while but trance was not meant for the little losers who listen to nsync and backstreet. it was meant for the addicts of trance. and when the little losers are gone, those addicts will still be there at 6 in the morning waitin in line to get in because van dyk or oakenfold are inside spinning. thank you.

dance music dead?

Here in the States, the "electronic" music scene is still relatively underground, thank God. Sure, there are raves and some of the big dance clubs are playing the good stuff. But, you have to remember that rock music is what Americans have been brought up on for so long. Actually, country music was the most listened to form of music in the U.S. up until a few years ago, then rap took over. Don't know if it's true, but that's what I read in some music mag. Either way, it doesn't bother me. I love Trance and I try to turn people on to it, I try to teach them how to listen to it. Most people say "It's the same beat, boom-boom-boom". I teach them to listen to all the other sounds and layers within the track and to figure out the story that the producer is telling. Some get it, some don't. I just wish I lived in Europe so I can hear more of what I love,TRANCE!! In the U.S., the dance scene is having a hard time. I'm American, but most Americans are too conservative and close minded to accept electronic music. The younger generation is starting to get it. Better stop, this is too damn long!! Peace!!

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