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Posted by Xavier on Aug-26-2004 13:55:

Champions League Draw

announced in 5 minutes from now...

Posted by Xavier on Aug-26-2004 14:24:

so far...

GROUP A GROUP B GROUP C
Deportivo R Madrid B Munich
LIVERPOOL AS Roma Juventus
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GROUP D GROUP E GROUP F
MAN UTD ARSENAL Barcelona
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GROUP G GROUP H
Valencia Porto
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Posted by Xavier on Aug-26-2004 14:39:

Final...

Group A
Team P W D L F A Pts
Deportivo La Coruna 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
LIVERPOOL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AS Monaco 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Olympiakos 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group B
Team P W D L F A Pts
Real Madrid 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AS Roma 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Bayer Leverkusen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dynamo Kiev 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group C
Team P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Juventus 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ajax Amsterdam 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group D
Team P W D L F A Pts
MANCHESTER UNITED 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Olympique Lyonnais 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sparta Prague 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fenerbahce 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group E
Team P W D L F A Pts
ARSENAL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Panathinaikos 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PSV Eindhoven 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rosenborg 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group F
Team P W D L F A Pts
Barcelona 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AC Milan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CELTIC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Shakhtar Donetsk 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group G
Team P W D L F A Pts
Valencia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Inter Milan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Anderlecht 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Werder Bremen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Group H
Team P W D L F A Pts
FC Porto 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CHELSEA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Paris Saint Germain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CSKA Moscow 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-26-2004 14:43:

Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea have all got off lightly. It seems like they are trying to help the English clubs through! Celtic have got a tough group though.

Some interesting clashes:
Larsson against his old club Celtic
Mourinho against his old club Porto.
Samuel against his old club Roma

Posted by Woody4eva on Aug-26-2004 14:55:

Nice easy draw for us.

Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-26-2004 15:04:

Man Utd and Arsenal can count themselves lucky. They were going to be with one of Roma, Juventus, Lyon, Panathanaikos, AC Milan or Inter Milan. Out of that lot Arsenal got Panathinaikos and Man Utd got Lyon.

Liverpool and Chelsea can also count themselves lucky. They could have drawn Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid or Valencia but they got Deportivo and Porto.

Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-26-2004 15:36:

Good draw for us. Bad draw for our rivals.

Valencia & Inter will probably go through.
Andrelecth in UEFA
and
Bremen out!

Posted by chesco on Aug-26-2004 16:30:

Group F
Team P W D L F A Pts
Barcelona 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AC Milan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CELTIC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Shakhtar Donetsk 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Gutted.

Posted by PacMan on Aug-26-2004 18:59:

damn i was hoping for

liverpool
real madrid
monaco
rosenborg

Posted by Acid Circus on Aug-27-2004 11:49:

Very tough on Celtic, but I don't think Liverpool have got off as lightly as the other English teams. Monaco and Deportivo are more than capable of taking points from Liverpool in both games and the Greeks are always hard to play in their home grounds. Group C looks good!

Posted by raveed on Aug-27-2004 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by PacMan
damn i was hoping for

liverpool
real madrid
monaco
rosenborg

well look on the bright side ... now there actually a possibility liverpool could go through

Posted by mentalbarter on Aug-27-2004 16:11:

i can see liverpool struggling to get thru this group
although i think they will do it, it will be by the skin of their teeth

Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-28-2004 17:40:

Damn Man Utd got a shi**y group guess I wont spend any quid on those matches.

Posted by TJM on Aug-30-2004 17:50:

God I can't wait for the Champions League! Some fascinating games in there; Bayern, Juve and Ajax together will be tight, and Celtic, Barca and Milan will all make great games.

Which of the smaller teams do you think will do well?? Theres always a few that surprise and go far every year (Porto, Monaco, Depor, Leverkusen, Leeds, Basel etc). Ajax are 50/1 which isn't a bad each way bet

Posted by noikeee on Aug-30-2004 18:13:

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Originally posted by Xavier
Final...

Group A
Team P W D L F A Pts
Deportivo La Coruna 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
LIVERPOOL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AS Monaco 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Olympiakos 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

i believe depor and liverpool will come on top, monaco and greece had their fame last season

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Group B
Team P W D L F A Pts
Real Madrid 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AS Roma 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Bayer Leverkusen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dynamo Kiev 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

bayer has had some bad seasons lately but seem to be recovering. roma never really done well in champions league, maybe this year will be their year. i hope real gets eliminated but they're the big favs here

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Group C
Team P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Juventus 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ajax Amsterdam 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

juve to go trough. bayern is going down and could very well be surprised by ajax, at least i hope so! maccabi is probably the weakest team of all groups but you can't expect facilities in champions league..

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Group D
Team P W D L F A Pts
MANCHESTER UNITED 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Olympique Lyonnais 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sparta Prague 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fenerbahce 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

seems like a pretty easy group for united. the other teams should fight for second place, with lyon being a bit more of a fav.

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Group E
Team P W D L F A Pts
ARSENAL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Panathinaikos 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PSV Eindhoven 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rosenborg 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

arsenal and psv are obvious favs, but panathinaikos and rosenborg are very experient in european competitions and can always cause surprises.

quote:
Group F
Team P W D L F A Pts
Barcelona 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
AC Milan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CELTIC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Shakhtar Donetsk 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

the death group, barca and milan would be favs but celtic is a very respectable team, and i believe even shakhtar could do a bit of a shock here, don't underestimate ukranians

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Group G
Team P W D L F A Pts
Valencia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Inter Milan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Anderlecht 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Werder Bremen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

an interesting one, valencia should go through, but then you get two national champions on good leagues and a big italian team that rarely does well on the CL, i think this will be a very close race

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Group H
Team P W D L F A Pts
FC Porto 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CHELSEA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Paris Saint Germain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
CSKA Moscow 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

ah, our group. despite the fact that we have signed a bunch of awesome players in the summer (seitaridis, diego, quaresma, postiga, even pepe from maritimo which is a very promising central back), the pre-season isn't going very well, one manager being sacked before the start of the championship, bad exhibitions. we have the potential but it's not working at the moment, and there's the pressure of being the reigning european champions. chelsea should win the group easily, and we should fight for the second place with psg. cska is fairly unknown to me, apart for knowing artur jorge was the manager recently, i don't believe they should be a big threat, but let's be careful when traveling to moscow.