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Posted by Trancer-X on Aug-28-2004 02:52:

FBI Suspects Israel Has Mole in Pentagon

FBI Suspects Israel Has Mole in Pentagon -- CBS



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The FBI believes Israel has a spy at the very highest level of the Pentagon who may have sought to influence U.S. policy on Iran and Iraq, CBS News reported on Friday.


The Israeli embassy immediately denied the report.


"The FBI has a full-fledged espionage investigation under way and is about to ... roll up someone agents believe has been spying, not for an enemy, but for Israel, from within the office of the secretary of defense (Donald Rumsfeld)," the network reported.


CBS News said the FBI believed it had solid evidence the suspected mole supplied Israel with classified material that included secret White House deliberations on Iran.


The network described the spy as "a trusted analyst" assigned to a unit within the defense department tasked with helping develop the Pentagon's Iraq policy.


It said the analyst had ties to top Pentagon officials Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, both regarded as leading architects of the war on Iraq.


Asked about the CBS report, a spokesman for the Israeli embassy told reporters: "We categorically deny these allegations. They are completely false and outrageous."


CBS said the spy was believed to have been passing secrets to Israel through intermediaries at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a pro-Israel lobby.


"Our sources tell us that last year the suspected spy ... turned over a presidential directive on U.S. policy toward Iran while it was 'in the draft phase'," the network said.


"This put the Israelis -- according to one of our sources -- 'inside the decision-making loop' so they could 'try to influence the outcome'," CBS reported.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...rity_usa_spy_dc


Posted by Q5echo on Aug-28-2004 04:26:

they wanted to see what exactly the president wants to do with Iran.

my question is, why didn't they just ask?

there has got to be more than this.


Posted by LiquidX on Aug-28-2004 06:16:

Mmm Just saw it on CNN..it's very.. scary!


Posted by rizo on Aug-28-2004 06:21:

No doubt Iran is next. Since we are going to expand the empire. Could we at least get some cool uniforms (something like Jin-Roh) and our very own Himmler. I did enjoy his search for Atlantis O_o

Seriously I do agree with Q5echo, they could of asked especially since we have Wolfowitz evil master plan, PNAC, in action.


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Aug-28-2004 07:39:

israel will prolly do everything it can to use the US to get rid of its enemies in the middle east...i wouldn't be surprised if this individual did indeed influence foreign policy (the CNN report does hint at this) in the middle east


Posted by arctic on Aug-28-2004 10:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
they wanted to see what exactly the president wants to do with Iran.

my question is, why didn't they just ask?

there has got to be more than this.

I'm wondering the same thing. Perhaps Israel suspected that the US was lying to them?


Posted by Versaj on Aug-28-2004 17:18:

Lying to Israel?

Lying to them? How can the US possibly lie to Israel, when you have Israeli agents like Paul Wolfowits, Elliot Abrams, David Perle all who were related to the Iran-Contra scandal influencing American foreign policy. Of course, all of whom have ties to Israel, this goes back to Henry Kissinger folks... I don't believe it is a case of our government being hijacked in the interest of a foreign country, it's more along the lines of our government selling out to the Political lobby groups such as AIPAC, and more specifically influenced by groups like Jinsa, PNAC, American Enterprise Institute.

Weather it's under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, George W., or John Kerry are government has a long history of Israeli informants influencing our foreign policy that will prophetically bring all "progress" ,that American's hard earned tax money pays for, domestically and internationally to a screeching halt and so begins our decline as a nation.

Compromising to the demands of a foreign body that has in no way directly contributed to or benefited our lives as Americans, but instead uses our money, and top secret intelligence to build it's nuclear warheads and uses our men and women to fight it's wars with it's neighboring countries, is destroying if not destroyed everything that our country stands for.


in other news:
Bush admits Iraq was a mistake: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3604564.stm

Next up Iran and Syria, By John Kerry: http://www.forward.com/main/article...rry200408251051

For the first time in History, A U.S. president officially backs illegal israeli settlments on palastinian lands:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...msid-823265.cms

Who own's the U.S. congress:
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/July_...04/0407027.html

Last but not least, Ralph Nader is branded a racist anti-Semitic, because he said that the U.S. is a puppet to Israeli policy:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2004Aug13.html


Go figure...........


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-28-2004 20:57:

i like how you all just assume this is indeed true.

It goes to show the power of Israel's intelligence service. Penetrate the highest positions of the most powerful nation of the world? Sure, why not, Israel intelligence service can do it.

Whether it can or not is not the issue, the fact is everyone assumes they can.


Posted by Trancer-X on Aug-28-2004 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
i like how you all just assume this is indeed true.

It goes to show the power of Israel's intelligence service. Penetrate the highest positions of the most powerful nation of the world? Sure, why not, Israel intelligence service can do it.

Whether it can or not is not the issue, the fact is everyone assumes they can.




Main Entry: duplicity
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English duplicite, from Middle French, from Late Latin duplicitat-, duplicitas, from Latin duplex
1 : contradictory doubleness of thought, speech, or action; especially : the belying of one's true intentions by deceptive words or action

Oh yeah, we're your best friends... and for reasons that we can't disclose, we KNOW that you would never do anything contrary to what WE want you to do.


Posted by Trancer-X on Aug-28-2004 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
Perhaps Israel suspected that the US was lying to them?


but the US doesn't lie!

LOL


Posted by malek on Aug-29-2004 02:28:

A MOLE??? like ONE mole?

or you mean a whole army of spies to the services of Israel and the many jewish lobbies in the states!!...

this bs story is to cover that bigger problem.


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-29-2004 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Oh yeah, we're your best friends... and for reasons that we can't disclose, we KNOW that you would never do anything contrary to what WE want you to do.


Suspicious how this issue is so close to the elections no?


Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Aug-29-2004 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
A MOLE??? like ONE mole?

or you mean a whole army of spies to the services of Israel and the many jewish lobbies in the states!!...

this bs story is to cover that bigger problem.


And that�s all part of the Jewish conspiracy to take over the world right?

Cut out the bulshit man...No one is buying that shit anymore.


Posted by Massive84 on Aug-29-2004 14:23:

hmm, why would isreal have spies in the Pentagon?

i bet sharon looked in the anus of bush already, i mean isn't US and ISreal very close? and share all their secrets anyway?


Posted by Flotser on Aug-29-2004 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
i bet sharon looked in the anus of bush already,


yep....
and the funny part,
when it was Sharon's turn to show his,
bush ran away


Posted by discojoe on Aug-29-2004 20:53:

What the hell is the big deal.

A. I can assure you you have spies from many different countries throughout the ranks. If Canada has a spy agency (CSIS), im sure there are plenty of others that do as well.. they certainly arnt there to spy on themselves.

B. Israel is an ally and a friendly nation , its not like its russia or China. Get over it.

C. You can't obviously blame other countries. What do you think the CIA does with the billions of dollars in funding it gets? Its ok to spy on other counties but its an entirely different moral issue if it happens to us? Meh

stop whining


Posted by Versaj on Aug-30-2004 00:01:

the "big deal"

The crucial fallacy with your assertion, is that you assume a so called "friendly" nation, is spying(whoops i mean gathering intelligence) for "friendly" Allied research purposes. As if it was Canada, for example, covertly using "our" intelligence to research and gather analysis for its own good.

However, the main differences to a nation such a Canada compared to that of Israel:

A. Is that one of these nation is under a constant security threat, a direct consequential result of policy and actions it has chosen against a people of a displaced and occupied nation.

B. Is that one of these nations has ,at last count,at least 200 Nuclear warheads (as discovered to the public in 1986 , reconfirmed from satellite images in July of 2000), a direct violation of the UN's IAEA. On top of the unsurmountable proven evidence of nuclear "warheads"(not just reactors), this nation still maintains to flat out deny possession and to this day will not allow UN (not just American) Nuclear Arms inspectors in the country.
(please do a google on "Dimona" )

C. One of these nations, has been issued over 70 Resolutions for Violations against United Nation policy for the abuse of Human rights and occupying lands that do not belong to it. Further instigating conflict and a part of the world that has only seen intense violence for the past 50-60 years.

quote:
So what the hell is the big deal?


The fact the U.S. gives billions of dollars of our tax money every year to support Israel and it's military as opposed to other useful domestic investments. The fact that U.S. policy in the middle east been in-line with Israel since it's inceptions, despite increasing world animosity and terrorist attacks. One really does not have to assume Israeli influence can penetrate the "most powerful country in the world"..one just has to open up a news paper.

In reality this is not about some pencil pusher sitting at a pentagon desk, stealing classified documents on Iran to give to the Israeli government. It's about a Ranked pencil pusher who works in the same office that has influenced the CIA, later the American Government, and finally the American public that we should attack Iraq based on falsified claims of weapons of Mass destruction. This guy is just a scape goat who gets slap on the wrist as opposed to influential "leaders" higher up the chain causing mass hysteria if caught.

So u can assure me all you want about the intelligence community around the world and how it operates. But I'd rather see my tax go to productive actions that directly benefit our citizens, not Israel's intelligence budget.


Posted by torontotrance on Aug-30-2004 01:33:

There are a lot of moles in a lot of intelligence agencies in the world. Intelligence is very valuable to a lot of countries and it does not surprise me if Isreal had someone feeding them information at times. It would not also surprise me if the US gov't had a bunch of moles in different intelligence agencies. You can't trust anyone these days, we all know what russian spies did to the CIA and what american spies did to the KGB.


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-30-2004 02:13:

I'm surprised Israel needs a mole, dont they have a direct line to the white house. We luv Israel so much we smile while they fark us up the pooper.


Posted by Palestinian on Aug-30-2004 04:58:

Confused Paranoia

There is nothing difficult to understand about why Israel spys on the US, if you think about it. Perhaps being a Psychology student makes it quite clear to me. Israel suffers from 'delusions of paranoia'. When you're paranoid, you'll keep a close eye on not only your enemies, but also your friends. Ever hear the saying "keep your enemies close, and your friends closer"? Bingo.


Posted by Some One on Aug-30-2004 06:05:

Re: Paranoia

quote:
Originally posted by Palestinian
There is nothing difficult to understand about why Israel spys on the US, if you think about it. Perhaps being a Psychology student makes it quite clear to me. Israel suffers from 'delusions of paranoia'. When you're paranoid, you'll keep a close eye on not only your enemies, but also your friends. Ever hear the saying "keep your enemies close, and your friends closer"? Bingo.


I think the saying goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

Delusions of paranoia? 6 million people suffering from paranoia?


Posted by Palestinian on Aug-30-2004 07:51:

Smiling Frog

actually the saying goes the way I said it as well. keep your friends closer so that they don't stab you in the back.

and yes israel is paranoid. wouldn't you be paranoid if you killed someone or stole someone's home? wouldn't you be paranoid if you were surrounded by people that hated your guts? what's so hard to understand about that? If Iran has nukes, Israel is in danger of being wiped off the planet, and any Zionist will testify to that before I do. so why is an israeli supporter asking me if israel is truly paranoid? you should know this better than I.


Posted by josh4 on Aug-30-2004 14:21:

NOOOOOOO!

WTF is Israel doing?! The world is already starting to raise a brow on the treatment of Palestinians... which makes Jews look hypocritical. Israel just hasn't been making smart moves lately. Now if they lose U.S. support GOOD BYE MIDDLE EAST HELLO ARMAGEDDON.


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-30-2004 23:52:

hmmm. now where's that rug?!


Posted by TranceGiant on Sep-01-2004 10:10:

I'm proud to release exclusive pictures of Izhak Molestein, the israeli spy in the Pentagon:


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