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str8-150 stanton

i have these stanton decks.
firstly what is with that irritating grinding noise when you holda record still or rewind it onthe platter??????
also the features:
2.key correction- cannot find arecord that this has ANY effect on at all. whhats the point it does nothing
3. who has ever used the reverse. ever.
4. 78 speed will never be used by human beings.its pointless
5. the pitch on/off switch "enables high speed mixing a the touch of a button". i have never pressed it. what , on earth, can it doto your mixing skills to turnoff the pitch fader on your turntable

this is just my opinion obv but id like to know yourviews on these points. perhaps youcan prove me wrong.

Why oh why did you buy these decks when u hate them and everything about them?
That's just plain stupid.

They better have been given to you, or something.

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Originally posted by dan_Saviola i have these stanton decks. firstly what is with that irritating grinding noise when you holda record still or rewind it onthe platter?????? also the features: 2.key correction- cannot find arecord that this has ANY effect on at all. whhats the point it does nothing 3. who has ever used the reverse. ever. 4. 78 speed will never be used by human beings.its pointless 5. the pitch on/off switch "enables high speed mixing a the touch of a button". i have never pressed it. what , on earth, can it doto your mixing skills to turnoff the pitch fader on your turntable this is just my opinion obv but id like to know yourviews on these points. perhaps youcan prove me wrong.

1. are you using proper slipmats? i wouldn't exactly know, but i hear those rubber ones on techs cause this. dunno if it's the same case with str8-150s. perhaps a use of some plastic bag for better slippage is in order?
2. a feature no one has mastered. only proper key correction/master tempo i've seen are on Pioneer CDJ decks. it's supposed to let you play a record at any speed you want, and you won't get the actual pitch (how HIGH or LOW it sounds) mucked with, only the speed. in other words, you can play a record at +100% and you won't hear the chipmunks, you'll hear the exact same track, only 100% faster.
3. reverse is used by turntablists, for cutting and sampling sometimes. also, i've seen techno jocks play with it. it can be pretty neat to experiment with.
4. bah, maybe they just put it in to cater to people with old ass records. although, if the key correction worked, this could be used to mess with slow records.
5. sounds like something a shitty CD decks would have. haha.

but again, if you find it this crappy, why'd you buy it?

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Originally posted by dan_Saviola i have these stanton decks. firstly what is with that irritating grinding noise when you holda record still or rewind it onthe platter?????? also the features: 2.key correction- cannot find arecord that this has ANY effect on at all. whhats the point it does nothing 3. who has ever used the reverse. ever. 4. 78 speed will never be used by human beings.its pointless 5. the pitch on/off switch "enables high speed mixing a the touch of a button". i have never pressed it. what , on earth, can it doto your mixing skills to turnoff the pitch fader on your turntable this is just my opinion obv but id like to know yourviews on these points. perhaps youcan prove me wrong.

1. That sounds more like a problem w/ the slipmats. If i remember stanton stock slipmats, that would probably be the problem.

2. No vinyl turntable has this feature dialed in, and i doubt it would ever happen b/c every turntable will waver, every cartridge will be different, and you are doing nothing more than making analog act digital. Just bad

3. A really good dj that i've seen used reverse was when frankie bones spun here in denver years ago. He, however, used a standard sl-1200 w/ the old-school duct-tape roll trick to make it work.

4. 78rpm is nice if you have records circa 1900s, but if you do find 78s you will need to get a larger grove stylus for the 78s.

5. As explained before. Just a pitch reset button.


Yeah, a couple of years ago i was in your same shoes, but with the previous sl-1200 killer. The stanton str8-100. I finally got rid of it once it's pitch control fader died. I just simply had enough of it's crap. My advice, sell the str8-150 before it drops in value b/c once it drops, your not gonna get crap for it. In my case, when i bought the str8-100, they were going for $499 but lucky me i got it for $300, while the sl-1200m3d was $450 new. After two and a half years, i was only able to get $150, and i had to throw in a rm-3s mixer along w/ it.

Sell it fast b/c stanton decks drop in value like a new Daewoo. (btw, never buy one, i got a friend who's grandma got screwed by owing ~$10,000 for a car that has a blue book of $2700. And it only has 7000mi!)

and yet:
"Without a doubt the premier turntable on the market today. Totally flawless, streets ahead of the rest in terms of performance and features, many inside the industry are saying that this is the turntable the mk5g should have been. With the world's strongest torque engine, extremely high precision key lock which has totally revolutionised high-speed mixing, 50% pitch range, 33, 45 and 78rpm, digital and analogue capabilities, reverse play and a straight tone arm which cuts down on angular distortion and gives off supreme sound levels from within the groove. Becoming the new industry standard based on both performance and word of mouth."

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Originally posted by dan_Saviola i have these stanton decks. firstly what is with that irritating grinding noise when you holda record still or rewind it onthe platter?????? also the features: 2.key correction- cannot find arecord that this has ANY effect on at all. whhats the point it does nothing 3. who has ever used the reverse. ever. 4. 78 speed will never be used by human beings.its pointless 5. the pitch on/off switch "enables high speed mixing a the touch of a button". i have never pressed it. what , on earth, can it doto your mixing skills to turnoff the pitch fader on your turntable this is just my opinion obv but id like to know yourviews on these points. perhaps youcan prove me wrong.

i think everyone has covered everything, except the money you saved

if you ignore those features that you never use, its still a fucking good deck.

Technics are boring plus . . .

Try doing this on your technics, Click on the link below, then click media in the top right, then click 'fluteline'. http://www.woodwurk.com I WAY rate these decks over technics and owned technics for 9 years before. The motor design ran out for technics so Stanton bought it out, beefed it up and opened No end the turntable possibilities. Every one else just blends and chops, I do this and a hell of a lot more because the deck I'm on enables me to.Cheers,Dan Warb

i read that the wow and flutter on these ridiculous stanton decks is really bad..

who the hell needs all that torque????? trance isnt about scratching and even if it was then the techs have more than enough torque..

i use the reverse on my stantons that i fool around with a lot when i mix breakz, but never with trance

i paid $150 for my stantons new, and theyre still worth about that


go wholesale!

whats with the really old threads bein dug up

this is like the third lol

like the rest . . . backround.

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Originally posted by richg101 i read that the wow and flutter on these ridiculous stanton decks is really bad.. who the hell needs all that torque????? trance isnt about scratching and even if it was then the techs have more than enough torque..

The wow and flutter your talking about between the technics and the str8 150's is around 0.02 percent, and believe me their abso nothing in it and it's not noticeable in any way what so ever. The extra torque is useful for being able to do things like scrtaching a beat in back and forth as you slowly bring the volume up with the other hand then when it reaches the desired level you can on the final bounce launch this record by letting go, on the tech's it was still easy to do this but with the extra torque it's even easier. The reverse in Trance is absolutly amazing, you get to a big deep break down and when it gets half way through you drop a record in on the other deck in reverse quietly in the break down then hit echo on your mixer and cut out the reversing record so you hear the reversed beats fade away in the back round, then cut in one or two more reversed beats with echo then finally launch it in again nice and loud to emphasize the drum role, at this point hit a filter of sorts as you fade out the breakdown while slowly killin ghte base on the reverse beats so that you get a distant 'hi end set of beats in reverse (this makes the breakdown so intense before it drops back in) then finally turn down the filter as bring bach in to full volume the breakdown record and the intesity goes throught the roof then bang . . . bang . . . bang kill the reverse, four dead beats and then bosh the breakdown ends and were steaming in again. The only people I have encountered finding extra features on a deck useless are uncreative Dj's into just blending, seriously the possibilities of extra deck features are endlesss in every genre and it's us tricksters that are keeping vynil alive other wise we might as well stick an Mp3 or a Cd on and stand at the bar. Cheers Dan Warb

As much as I appreciate you taking the time to type that out, seriously learn some punctuation, reading that hurt my brain.

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Originally posted by Nou ^^ Agreed When I was in the market for decks the first time I talked to a guy at Guitar Center and said I wanted ST-100's he told me that the pitch would die after 6 months and that I should get techs... I thought he was giving me the run... but I took it anyways... Techs are the best, their is no doubting it. 30+ years on that same design and they still are going strong.

Its funny how that happend because i had the exact opposite. The guy here at a big australia music store was telling me the techs where not worth it because they die after 2-3 years and that i should go for the stantons. Im not sure but i think he has now won the dumbest salesperson award. I realy think because of my age he took me for a complete idiot...

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown As much as I appreciate you taking the time to type that out, seriously learn some punctuation, reading that hurt my brain.

I know ! These forums are a nightmare, you can pleace as many space between your posts but this forum set up makes the posts end up being one big block ! Saing that, the lay out has nothing to do with punctuation, does it ?? I mean I;m fully aware of how to use commas and full stops or is it that you just made your brain hurt ???

Just a quick note here.

I've had my stanton str8-100's for 4 years now and i still find them as accurate with the pitch control, the motor still has the same torque as it did and the everything on them does as it should, the only problem with them after 4 years is the 33/45 rpm buttons, on one of my decks the 45 button has got a little sticky, meaning i have to press it more than once to get that speed (big deal, just means i need to give the switch a clean and it will be back to normal)

And after 4 years i still prefer these decks over the technics that i use in clubs.

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo Just a quick note here. I've had my stanton str8-100's for 4 years now and i still find them as accurate with the pitch control, the motor still has the same torque as it did and the everything on them does as it should, the only problem with them after 4 years is the 33/45 rpm buttons, on one of my decks the 45 button has got a little sticky, meaning i have to press it more than once to get that speed (big deal, just means i need to give the switch a clean and it will be back to normal) And after 4 years i still prefer these decks over the technics that i use in clubs.

Yea, I Djaind last Sat on a pair of technic 1200's and found that on both of them you had really press to switch it between 33 and 45.

I figure I will add my 2 cents to this, guess I would know as well as anyone the performance of an st-150... Due to the fact I have 3 of them. The extra features are gimmicks just a little something extra to add, the key correction is useless unless the deck is running via the line out instead of phono out... It's only really useless for about 3% then it just sounds like the echo effect gone wrong.

I use the reverse feature... It is interesting what you can acctually do with it when you acctually have some creativity... Play Elecktrochemie LK - schall (backwards) layered on top of DK8 - murder was the bass (orig or Tomie Nevada mix) as an intro to a set, and tell me that don't sound cool. I also get into the turntablism thing so i use it there a little bit too.

78 speed... look I don't know why companies still insist on adding this to decks... they need to let it go.

I am sure at this point a few of you are thinking why would you get these over technics "omg wtf... etc", I have explained why in other threads and its because there a very solid workhorse and have never let me down, Ive had 2 of them for fair long while now and they still hold up as strong as the day I got them. Truth be told I prefer using them over technics the extra torque spoils you and gives your mixes alot more control.

The wow and flutter issue is bullshit... Its not even slightly noticeable and truth be told I think 150's hold a pitch just as well as any tech if not better, not to mention because of the amount of torque your corrections happen a lot faster by just using the pitch control. Also for those who say there is too much torque... give me a fucking break. Maybe instead of criticising you learn how to mix.

I am not trying to convice any technic fanboys to rush out and buy these the fact is I don't really care, not to mention it's a pointless arguement... Like whatever the you want to like and whatever the makes you happy to mix on. most people on these forums that have acctually used the 150's have just had a quick play at there local dj store or simply read a review or just decided they plain out don't like them, so they cant really pass judgement for how they go for long mixes and how they go over time... If anyone is wondering, I mix techno so there is not a very long stage where I will have only 1 track going at any given time unless it is a quiet spot even still I usually have a filter running over the other track for shits and giggles.

At the end of the day like and use what you feel comfortable with, I think vestax make an awesome deck but I just didnt feel comfortable mixing with them... for a scratch though nothing will beat them... DJ Woody proves that. I still love the technics and do not have a problem with them and never will... I mean there a trustworthy and reliable beast, I just like using my 150's more...

-Timski

stanton sucks

<---waits to be flamed and banned by neo.

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Originally posted by Timski I figure I will add my 2 cents to this, guess I would know as well as anyone the performance of an st-150... Due to the fact I have 3 of them. The extra features are gimmicks just a little something extra to add, the key correction is useless unless the deck is running via the line out instead of phono out... It's only really useless for about 3% then it just sounds like the echo effect gone wrong. I use the reverse feature... It is interesting what you can acctually do with it when you acctually have some creativity... Play Elecktrochemie LK - schall (backwards) layered on top of DK8 - murder was the bass (orig or Tomie Nevada mix) as an intro to a set, and tell me that don't sound cool. I also get into the turntablism thing so i use it there a little bit too. 78 speed... look I don't know why companies still insist on adding this to decks... they need to let it go. I am sure at this point a few of you are thinking why would you get these over technics "omg wtf... etc", I have explained why in other threads and its because there a very solid workhorse and have never let me down, Ive had 2 of them for fair long while now and they still hold up as strong as the day I got them. Truth be told I prefer using them over technics the extra torque spoils you and gives your mixes alot more control. The wow and flutter issue is bullshit... Its not even slightly noticeable and truth be told I think 150's hold a pitch just as well as any tech if not better, not to mention because of the amount of torque your corrections happen a lot faster by just using the pitch control. Also for those who say there is too much torque... give me a fucking break. Maybe instead of criticising you learn how to mix.

BONG ON CHAP ! I was going to say tho, I don't see the extra features as gimmiks, I do see what you mean tho that the basic deck witht features aside does make them even better sturdier work horse than the technics thou and I think they really are the best deck on the market. The extra features I find fenominal with all the extra live stunts you can pull off and even the 78 setting I use. You can get a a long 'HUmmm' or 'Screech in a break down, hit echo as you start and stop the deck with the start and stop set to work slow and you get whale like sounds over the other track, do the same again set on different speeds and it sounds amazing if you use the right track. I'm selling mine in the for sale section in this forum as I'm going into Cd and Pm3 mixing, plus it looks like I'm going abroad but I just know I'm going to look at buying at least one when I get there. You other guys that stick to 1 deck and manufacturer, please step back and widen your horizons. Top Stuff ! Dan Warb

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