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Is this the worst ripoff ever?

And I thought "Lolo - Why?" vs "Sasha - Xpander" was bad!

http://w1.184.telia.com/~u18411604/ripoff.mp3

First track = Unknown Source - Nadjanema (Airbase remix)
Second track = JVD - From russia with love

What can I say...

About 3 or 4 years ago there was this guy who called himseld DJ Mystic and what this guy did is that he ripped off almost every possible trance tune out as the time and released them as they were his own. He actually made trance album cds which include all of his ripoffs. He didn�t even bother change the original name of the tune� among the tunes he ripped you can fined:
DJ Mystic � out of the blue
DJ Mystic � Insomnia

Well you get the idea�

who ripped off from who here ?

I dislike both versions btw

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru who ripped off from who here ?

Well I never heard about the 2nd track until today, and it seems new... Airbase's remix is about 1 year old.

Well have you ever heared that ripoff version. I forgot the title, I think it's In my memory or something from tiesto vs another song, they are identical lol, I still wonder who ripped off who.

edit

Tiesto - Urban Train and Kid Vicious - Reform

/edit

But apparently Tiesto gave credit to the Kid somewhere in font size 2 ina corner on the vinyl or something..

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru Well have you ever heared that ripoff version. I forgot the title, I think it's In my memory or something from tiesto vs another song, they are identical lol, I still wonder who ripped off who. edit Tiesto - Urban Train and Kid Vicious - Reform /edit But apparently Tiesto gave credit to the Kid somewhere in font size 2 ina corner on the vinyl or something..

didn't Kid help tiesto make suburban train? i thought someone said this a while back on this forum

pretty funny

about reform / suburban train

official explanation (the nice version): tiesto was inspired after remixing reform, and borrowed the melody and ronald & tijs prouduced suburban train together



what really happened (ronald van gelderen has said this): tiesto made suburban train and stole the melody, and ronald found out and made tijs credit him on tha track, that is why on the in my memory abum it says DJ Ti�sto & Ronald Van Gelderen - Suburban Train

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Originally posted by Massive84 didn't Kid help tiesto make suburban train? i thought someone said this a while back on this forum

I know Tiesto did a remix of Reform but it sounded just like a mashup of Suburban Train & his remix of Jan Johnston - Flesh, like a quick half an hour job. If that was done before S.T. I suppose he could've been inspired by that and converted it into his own track, but S.T. bore more resemblance to his remix of Silence than his remix of Flesh (used alot of the same samples)... but has a similar melody to Reform.

And I just managed to confuse myself, lol.

Would be interested to know the order in which they were produced...

//edit - thx montana

Re: Is this the worst ripoff ever?

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Originally posted by Jarjar First track = Unknown Source - Nadjanema (Airbase remix) Second track = JVD - From russia with love

Hahaha they're hilariously similar! JVD (which is an alias of Ron van den Beuken I think?) probably heard the Unknown Source track (which is over a year old) and forgot about it... then remembered the melody and thought it was his own genius creation. I've done that before

But note for note... that's almost too accurate to be a mistake...

Prefered the original mix of Nadjanema anyway.

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Originally posted by isoterra JVD (which is an alias of Ron van den Beuken I think?)

JVD is Ron van den Beuken's partner in crime, had some releases a few years ago. He also spins under the Ron van den Beuken name, I think

he even managed to rip off the track title from matt darey's old classic

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Originally posted by montana about reform / suburban train official explanation (the nice version): tiesto was inspired after remixing reform, and borrowed the melody and ronald & tijs prouduced suburban train together what really happened (ronald van gelderen has said this): tiesto made suburban train and stole the melody, and ronald found out and made tijs credit him on tha track, that is why on the in my memory abum it says DJ Ti�sto & Ronald Van Gelderen - Suburban Train

Well that melody is stolen from Lost Train- Gamemaster anyway, so both of them should shut the hell up.

speaking about rippoffs.

don't you all think that Endre-i kill for you(probspot remix) sound quite near Audioholics-external key?

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Originally posted by Massive84 speaking about rippoffs. don't you all think that Endre-i kill for you(probspot remix) sound quite near Audioholics-external key?

hmmm...?

lol

No clue, haven't heared either of em.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well that melody is stolen from Lost Train- Gamemaster anyway, so both of them should shut the hell up.

Lost Train? Surely you mean Lost Tribe?

I'd love to hear a comparison sample too as afaik they sound nothing like eachother...

nothing can beat the original mix of Nadjanema anyway

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Originally posted by montana about reform / suburban train official explanation (the nice version): tiesto was inspired after remixing reform, and borrowed the melody and ronald & tijs prouduced suburban train together what really happened (ronald van gelderen has said this): tiesto made suburban train and stole the melody, and ronald found out and made tijs credit him on tha track, that is why on the in my memory abum it says DJ Ti�sto & Ronald Van Gelderen - Suburban Train

Does Tiesto make any of his own music himself? lol

I think it goes something like this :

Tiesto : Hey mr. engineer, I want a really fat sound, with a beat behind it.. Oh and a good bass also yes..
And then the engineer tweaks for a while, tiesto says if he likes it or not, what he wants changed, and 'he' made his song

No I don't think it's that bad, but I keep reading that his engineer does a lot though. But those are no facts, so I'll just stfu and go hide

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru I think it goes something like this : Tiesto : Hey mr. engineer, I want a really fat sound, with a beat behind it.. Oh and a good bass also yes.. And then the engineer tweaks for a while, tiesto says if he likes it or not, what he wants changed, and 'he' made his song No I don't think it's that bad, but I keep reading that his engineer does a lot though. But those are no facts, so I'll just stfu and go hide

Its a smart move, the engineer probably wouldn't look as good on the cover.

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Originally posted by Jarjar And I thought "Lolo - Why?" vs "Sasha - Xpander" was bad! http://w1.184.telia.com/~u18411604/ripoff.mp3 First track = Unknown Source - Nadjanema (Airbase remix) Second track = JVD - From russia with love What can I say...

Jezus, thats not even smooth ripping, its just total cut'n'paste basically.
No kudos to Beuken for rippin my melody intepretation of Nadjanema...

// Jezper

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Originally posted by BelgianGuru I think it goes something like this : Tiesto : Hey mr. engineer, I want a really fat sound, with a beat behind it.. Oh and a good bass also yes.. And then the engineer tweaks for a while, tiesto says if he likes it or not, what he wants changed, and 'he' made his song No I don't think it's that bad, but I keep reading that his engineer does a lot though. But those are no facts, so I'll just stfu and go hide

the fact is that tijs have had a lot of help from his blackhole artists like dj montana (one track or two), cor fijneman (he has stopped helping afaik), geert huinink (this guy does the most work) and also dj waakop reijers on the tracks on "just be"

Damn, that's some massive stealings...

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