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Posted by Joi Lamusic on Aug-31-2004 13:12:

Some tips for vocaltrancers

Aaah..Vocal trance

Well, here are MY tips for making vocal trance. These may be really obvious things (or even stupid), but I hope these are even bit helpfull tips for some of U

1) Sometimes less is more! U don't have to always write a long story for good vocal line. Like Antiloops - I love you, simple and good But sometimes little story is nice, like Kay Cee - Unsolved mysteries

2) When U listen to vocal trance, U can hear that usually when there is vocal there aren't lots of melodies going on... That way the vocal really stands up from the track.

3) Sometimes even silly lyrics make good song if the voice is interesting Listen some songs of Kyau vs Albert...

4) Sometimes it helps if U think the vocal is like synth or string... So U can create first the vocal melody and then start to think the words...

5) Just let your inspiration fly

And maybe someone can give more some tips (or even betetr tips) for making vocal trance?

Posted by Crizzz_H on Aug-31-2004 19:12:

hello

thank you

Posted by trance-ta on Aug-31-2004 19:22:

Hey Joi, I think this was quite good help. So Thx!

Posted by BelgianGuru on Aug-31-2004 20:37:

Also don't go the Lasgo vocal 'dance' tour. It really sucks.

Posted by Tranc3 on Aug-31-2004 21:13:

Re: Some tips for vocaltrancers

quote:
Originally posted by Joi Lamusic
2) When U listen to vocal trance, U can hear that usually when there is vocal there aren't lots of melodies going on... That way the vocal really stands up from the track.

When I listen to GOOD vocal trance, I find that there ARE other melodies going on, that way the vocal supplements the track and doesn't support it on its' own.

Needless to say, I feel vocals should add to a track. A track shouldn't be built around vocals, rather, they should complement each other, and sound perfectly fine without each other.

Posted by djdustx on Sep-01-2004 15:10:

^ ALL Trance IS Good if its produced right ^ there is only preference

Sebasano

Posted by BelgianGuru on Sep-01-2004 15:21:

How much is the fish

Posted by Reversed on Sep-01-2004 16:46:

I recently started a track and decided to have a friend send me some vocal clips which I tossed in to see how it would sound... I think it could work. What do you think?

http://www.reversedlogic.com/mixes/...lton-05full.mp3

I know they don't quite flow yet but I still feel the potential is there.

Hales@Reversed Logic
www.reversedlogic.com

Posted by Joi Lamusic on Sep-02-2004 18:54:

But I think the BEST advice anyone can give is ;listen to vocal trance...Really LISTEN to it. Listen different styles of vocal trance (also vocals by male singers and not only female)... Learn and create your own style to use vocals in your tracks

And have FUN!!!!

Posted by Joi Lamusic on Sep-02-2004 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Reversed
I recently started a track and decided to have a friend send me some vocal clips which I tossed in to see how it would sound... I think it could work. What do you think?

http://www.reversedlogic.com/mixes/...lton-05full.mp3

I know they don't quite flow yet but I still feel the potential is there.

Hales@Reversed Logic
www.reversedlogic.com

I kind of liked this track...Cool
And I think the vocal fits nicely in to this bizarre melody
It not only fits, it gives more "deepness" to the track.... Well, that's what I think.

Posted by Reversed on Sep-02-2004 19:28:

Thanks Joi Lamusic,

I was trying to decide if it was right for the thread or not but I found myself wondering a lot about the points you mentioned.

Hales@Reversed Logic
www.reversedlogic.com

Posted by Limit on Sep-03-2004 00:33:

thats a serious track dude...there's one effect that i'm interested in knowing how you pulled it off. It comes in at 2:15 and sound slike a reverse reverbed vocal layered with a reversed synth sound or my second thought would be that is a vocoded vocal that is reverse reverbed...how did ya pull it off and what did ya use(synths, effects).

Thanks, Love this Tune!

Posted by Dancer on Sep-05-2004 20:24:

Thank to you Joi Lamusic for help! Nice help

Posted by DjSimonB on Sep-06-2004 17:09:

I'm not a vocal trance expert, but to anyone making vocal trance, just try to write good lyrics, you have no idea how much I cringe whenever I hear something like "so much loooove.... from aboooove...., I'm so hiiigh, floating in the skyyyyyy...". I always appreciate well-written vocals - even if I don't like the tune, I repect it more.

Posted by Joi Lamusic on Sep-06-2004 17:50:

Simon, U right! There should be some sort of "idea" in the lyrics...
I hate lyrics like "You cheated me and made me cry,I do anything to make U mine...", I think it should be "U cheated me and made me cry, I don't want U back in to my life" U know what I mean.

But sometimes "short" lyrics are also really good/working thing... Think about Future Breeze "Why don't you dance with me", that's HOT!