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I don't get it? I was watching the RNC last night and they where interviewing a gay, i think nominie sp?, from the "log cabin" group (got to love that) about anti gay party line. Conservativism must be some heady drug to want to affiliate yourself with a party that is against your best interest. Any Gay Republicans want to explain this, come on i know you're out there, just use "your friend".

Quite simple really. Is the democratic party solely populated by extreme liberal hippies who want to go out and save the environment above all other considerations? No it's one minority viewpoint of a party composed of a many many multi-faceted viewpoints. Similarly the republican party extends beyond simple social conservatism. There's also fiscal conservatism, limited government, state-rights advocates, individualists, etc., etc., etc. Hence the reason why you have moderate Republicans such as Arnold who's pro-gay marriage, pro-environment, yet still a republican. And then you have democrats such as HOward Dean who is buddy buddy with the NRA. Doesn't mean that he's a confused individual because he fails to tow the party line in all aspects. So obviously these logcabin republicans don't consider marriage as soemthing that is their BEST interest. Makes sense to me. I don't want to get fucking married and I would call anybody who does absoletely crazy.

I agree with occrider.

However, are there any democrats that are anti-gay marriage? Anti-abortion? I'm sure there are, I just don't follow it that well.

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Originally posted by occrider Quite simple really. Is the democratic party solely populated by extreme liberal hippies who want to go out and save the environment above all other considerations? No it's one minority viewpoint of a party composed of a many many multi-faceted viewpoints. Similarly the republican party extends beyond simple social conservatism. There's also fiscal conservatism, limited government, state-rights advocates, individualists, etc., etc., etc. Hence the reason why you have moderate Republicans such as Arnold who's pro-gay marriage, pro-environment, yet still a republican. And then you have democrats such as HOward Dean who is buddy buddy with the NRA. Doesn't mean that he's a confused individual because he fails to tow the party line in all aspects. So obviously these logcabin republicans don't consider marriage as soemthing that is their BEST interest. Makes sense to me. I don't want to get fucking married and I would call anybody who does absoletely crazy.

Don't wanna get married?

You a gay liberal or somethin'?

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Originally posted by Seventil I agree with occrider. However, are there any democrats that are anti-gay marriage? Anti-abortion? I'm sure there are, I just don't follow it that well.

Oh sure, you have your moderate Dems. with these viewpoints, but for the most part they are not the majority. Very similar to the group moderate Repubs. views, which are not the majority partyline view.

Though I don't always agree with the mods. on either side, they are most certainly a necessity when it comes to working together in policy making.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Don't wanna get married? You a gay liberal or somethin'?

Don't believe in marriage

If I wanted someone nagging me about my whereabouts along with a life of poverty (or the threat of poverty should I get sick of the nagging) I would just quit my job and go live with my parents again.

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Originally posted by Seventil I agree with occrider. However, are there any democrats that are anti-gay marriage? Anti-abortion? I'm sure there are, I just don't follow it that well.

Clinton was against gay marriages. DOMA did pass under his administration I believe.

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Originally posted by Seventil I agree with occrider. However, are there any democrats that are anti-gay marriage? Anti-abortion? I'm sure there are, I just don't follow it that well.

Me! .. though the Anti-abortion is something I agree up to a certain point, same with Gay Marriage.. Im Against it, but Im against it on to making it an amendment.. Im for letting gays be recognized as couple, but not married.

I still dont know what DIck Cheney's daughter thinks about all this ( she is a gay american ).

Could it be that Gay men hate women and so do the Republicans? I mean the republicans want women in their "place". jk

some gay men put the importance of the state ahead of the importance of "gay"

so i've been told by an acquaintance who is gay, and yes, republican.

>JM<

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Originally posted by rizen Could it be that Gay men hate women and so do the Republicans? I mean the republicans want women in their "place". jk

>JM<

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Originally posted by JM some gay men put the importance of the state ahead of the importance of "gay"

that makes the most sense to me but, i find it akin to jew joining the nazi party for their stong defense policy, or kkk joining democrats for economic reasons.

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Originally posted by rizen Could it be that Gay men hate women and so do the Republicans? I mean the republicans want women in their "place".

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Originally posted by occrider Similarly the republican party extends beyond simple social conservatism. There's also fiscal conservatism, limited government, state-rights advocates, individualists, etc., etc., etc.

maybe i should be more pointed and said why vote for bush, because those principles you mention only apply to mod rep. Bush is for big gov, fed power, and not fiscal conservative. So I don't see the rational for a gay to vote bush for those reasons. Like it or not they are least compasionate to any minority group.

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Hence the reason why you have moderate Republicans such as Arnold who's pro-gay marriage, pro-environment, yet still a republican. And then you have democrats such as HOward Dean who is buddy buddy with the NRA. Doesn't mean that he's a confused individual because he fails to tow the party line in all aspects. So obviously these logcabin republicans don't consider marriage as soemthing that is their BEST interest. Makes sense to me. I don't want to get fucking married and I would call anybody who does absoletely crazy.

actual the guy they interviewed is in favor of gay marriage and wanted "turn the tide" in the replican party. good luck! lol

but it's not a just a matter of the marriage question; if it were, then as occ. said, it could be chalked up to being one issue among many. The reality, however, is that log cabin republicans belong to a party whose chief members are against their entire way of life and who view them as biological deviants at best and hell-bound sodomists at worst.

i guess fiscal conservatism and limited government must be powerful inducements indeed if they trump that sort of atavistic hatred...

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