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Posted by SportTrance on Sep-02-2004 10:13:

the kobe accuser

does anyone find it insane on how well theyve kept the identity of this girl from the public?

I cant imagine how there have been absolutely no leaks of any sort over the past year. It has been one of the biggest court cases of the year, maybe the decade, and yet we have nothing. There WAS one "leak" in the beginning, with a site with pics, etc, but it turned out to not really be her.

All I know is ive seen/heard absolutely nothing about who this woman is, or might be. With the way the media exploits crap in this country, its pretty impressive.

crazy wild shtuff


Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-02-2004 13:12:

Wasn't there a thread on here about it. I think there was a website with her phone number, parents tax info, address, etc. Was that all fake? I swear I saw something like that.


Posted by DJDREO on Sep-02-2004 13:34:

Re: the kobe accuser

quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance
does anyone find it insane on how well theyve kept the identity of this girl from the public?

I cant imagine how there have been absolutely no leaks of any sort over the past year. It has been one of the biggest court cases of the year, maybe the decade, and yet we have nothing. There WAS one "leak" in the beginning, with a site with pics, etc, but it turned out to not really be her.

All I know is ive seen/heard absolutely nothing about who this woman is, or might be. With the way the media exploits crap in this country, its pretty impressive.

crazy wild shtuff


Holy shit I NEVER noticed that. But does anybody have a theory over why they hide her Or if she even exist?


Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-02-2004 13:49:

Re: Re: Re: the kobe accuser

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
lol its all fake kobe fabricated the entire thing

what do you call those things where a celeb makes up a story or accident to get in the news...


LOL... attention whoring.

Its free marketing, but I know theres a different phrase for it.


Posted by The_One on Sep-02-2004 13:49:

Re: Re: Re: the kobe accuser

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
lol its all fake kobe fabricated the entire thing

what do you call those things where a celeb makes up a story or accident to get in the news...


Its called a publicity stunt. I really doubt Kobe would jeopordize his basketball carrer and family life for a mere publicity stunt.

The girl was obviously just after Kobes money. The fact that she decided to drop the case makes her look even more guilty of that. Too bad we'll never know who she was.


Posted by jesten on Sep-02-2004 13:55:

Dude her name is Kate Faber. Spelling could be wrong but it's pernounced 'Fay-ber'. A certain radio talk show mentions her name at least twice a day.


And they are supposed to hide her identity because in the US, they are by law not supposed to identify 'rape' victims. Its a privacy issue.


Posted by tranceaholic on Sep-02-2004 14:16:

i think now after the case have been dismissed she can be identified or not...i wanna c what she looks like and if she is worth the fuck..


Posted by Siang on Sep-02-2004 14:18:

Are you fucking stupid? Attention whoring? Yes thats the kind of attention you want, being accused of raping and beating a white girl. And yea, its real easy to fake court hearings, court appeals, etc.....


Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-02-2004 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Siang
Are you fucking stupid? Attention whoring? Yes thats the kind of attention you want, being accused of raping and beating a white girl. And yea, its real easy to fake court hearings, court appeals, etc.....


Whoa, I never said the Kobe thing was attention whoring, but celebrities in general making up things to get their name back into the pop culture (i.e. Paris Hilton sex tape, Britney Spears' marriage, etc.)

Note the post above that one:
quote:
what do you call those things where a celeb makes up a story or accident to get in the news...


That's what I was responding to. Not the part about Kobe making it up


Posted by tranceaholic on Sep-02-2004 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Bod
Whoa, I never said the Kobe thing was attention whoring, but celebrities in general making up things to get their name back into the pop culture (i.e. Paris Hilton sex tape, Britney Spears' marriage, etc.)

Note the post above that one:


That's what I was responding to. Not the part about Kobe making it up


celebrity whoring doesnt work for athletes...even if u r in the media 24/7 but u suck on the court then u aint worth shit...


Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-02-2004 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaholic
celebrity whoring doesnt work for athletes...even if u r in the media 24/7 but u suck on the court then u aint worth shit...


That's true.


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 15:39:

Re: Re: Re: Re: the kobe accuser

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
lol its all fake kobe fabricated the entire thing

what do you call those things where a celeb makes up a story or accident to get in the news...


i think its called a Paris Hilton sex tape


Posted by Siang on Sep-02-2004 16:03:

yea Dj_Bod, I meant the guy above your initial post also, not you. Sorry for the mix up


Posted by ShadoWolf on Sep-02-2004 16:15:

wow there are some really stupid people here


Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-02-2004 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Siang
yea Dj_Bod, I meant the guy above your initial post also, not you. Sorry for the mix up


It's alright. I was just confused (it's easy to do when I'm at work)


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Sep-02-2004 17:25:

Conspiracy.. just everywhere, Conspiracyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! arrgh


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-02-2004 17:52:

It's pathetic in North American law these days and this case showed all about the flaws in the system. A girl gets raped in her mind, yet she is the one put on trial by Bryant's defence team, since when did getting raped by someone become a crime by the victim. Our laws are so twisted because we have these morons who cry foul when the criminals' rights are violated but no one seems to give a crap that the victim had his or her rights violated in the first place by the criminal, that's why charges were laid. I bet most of you think that she was a gold digging whore that never got raped thinking she was after Kobe's money. The poor girl would have been grilled by the defence about her sexual history and everything, since when did your sexual history factor into being raped. Rape is all about you saying no and then the person having sex against your will. When did how many men you sleep with actually make a damn of a difference, the question is you were raped or you were not. North America is backwards, we are too concerned with the criminal's rights but not the victim's right (if they are still alive) or their family and loved ones' right to seek justice. Kobe will always be a rapist in my book, even thought the case did not go to trial. If he was'nt a star, this case would not have made any news and she would have been just another statistic, which is pathetic and the criminal would have got life in prison. There were 3 leaks of information by the court people in the case, which got out and tainted the people and the girl thought she would not get a fair trial, it would end in acquittal and she did not want to be on trial herself. Since when did getting raped and being the victim constitute you being on trial, that's why America and Canada are backwards. The way I look at it, if you are convicted of a rape, your dick should be cut off then you cannot tape again. This case shows how bad criminal rights have become, they get more rights than the victims that is just plain wrong. John Walsh put it best, being someone who knows about the entire process, he got mistreated by the cops, the courts and everything and he says we have it backwards, the victim's rights come first but at least he is doing something about it, taking scumbags off the street.


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-02-2004 18:02:

But if you had sex before you got raped, rape is still rape, it does not matter about it. The question comes down to...did you say no and did he continue and did you get raped by Kobe or not. See Kobe's defence team can say all they want about getting a fair trial but when did your past make a damn of difference unless you were crying rape all the time. People have sympathy for Kobe but I don't, he reeped what he sowed and he will get taken apart in the civil trial, he will pay for his actions. OJ got off but got taken apart in the civil trial. Kobe's team was going to trash the poor girl anyway, her life would have been on trial but it was kobe and his actions that should have been on trial but that's how ass backwards our countries have become. The defence has a legal right to question problems but their rights have gone way too far. No rape victim should have their damn life put on trial but that's why we have crackheads like the ACLU, who just bitch for criminals and their rights. Your rights go down the drain, the minute you violate someone else's


Posted by JayD on Sep-02-2004 18:11:

quote:
^^ Paragraphs would be good.

I think the major concern and question was, if you were sexually assaulted, why did you have (was it two or three) more sexual encounters with men or a man post.. If I were sexually assaulted, I wouldn't conduct in anymore sexual acctivities. I would go straight to the police. Maybe it was the question that

I understand she may have been scared, but having two other different types of seaman in your ** post the fact that you were just sexually assaulted raises some questions.

Rape is a serious offense and should not be taken lightly. If Kobe was guilty then damn well he should have been prosecuted.. If not then he should not have.


My post before it got fucked.

quote:
But if you had sex before you got raped, rape is still rape, it does not matter about it.


She had sex after.

There could've been the possiblity that they had sex, and she could've walked out of thier like "shit, I was just rapped". Definitly no dispute in that.. But like I said, the substantial evidence post the fact that she walked out and was like "shit, I was just rapped" would have resulted in contacting authorities... Not having sex with other men. It kind of mess's w/ evidence.

JaY


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-02-2004 18:18:

I never said that the evidence was'nt a mess but you see the point that I'm making here, kobe's team immediately turned it into pointing the finger at the accuser, it's ass backwards. Since when did getting raped, being a victim make you a criminal. The case did one thing tho, it got a lot of people angry at the process and I expect more laws to be passed against crap like this. Kobe was on trial, not the girl and we should remember that, she may have been a whore and slept around but that does not diminish her accusation of rape. Being a whore does not negate the circumstances nor the rape.


Posted by igottaknow on Sep-02-2004 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
I never said that the evidence was'nt a mess but you see the point that I'm making here, kobe's team immediately turned it into pointing the finger at the accuser, it's ass backwards. Since when did getting raped, being a victim make you a criminal. The case did one thing tho, it got a lot of people angry at the process and I expect more laws to be passed against crap like this. Kobe was on trial, not the girl and we should remember that, she may have been a whore and slept around but that does not diminish her accusation of rape. Being a whore does not negate the circumstances nor the rape.

spot on, too bad money always wins


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-02-2004 18:37:

If it was a 25 yr old middle class guy, he would have got 10 years
If it was a 25 yr old black man, life in prison

the system has more flaws than michael jackson


Posted by JayD on Sep-02-2004 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
I never said that the evidence was'nt a mess but you see the point that I'm making here, kobe's team immediately turned it into pointing the finger at the accuser, it's ass backwards. Since when did getting raped, being a victim make you a criminal. The case did one thing tho, it got a lot of people angry at the process and I expect more laws to be passed against crap like this. Kobe was on trial, not the girl and we should remember that, she may have been a whore and slept around but that does not diminish her accusation of rape. Being a whore does not negate the circumstances nor the rape.


Well they are the defense.. And they'll do whatever they can to defend even if it's not morally right. Look at the Scot Peterson trial, most of the substantial evidence that the prosecutors are using is on the affair he had.. You can say the same about that.. Alla since when does being a bad husband and father = youself a murderer? Get me?

Things are fucked and I agree that things need to be better handled. You have to remember that it was the prosecution in the case (for Kobe) that really fucked up here and which ultimatly resulted in the case getting closed. Not the defense.

JaY


Posted by tranceaholic on Sep-02-2004 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
If it was a 25 yr old middle class guy, he would have got 10 years
If it was a 25 yr old black man, life in prison

the system has more flaws than michael jackson


well first of all based on what do u think she DID get raped? her word? scond rapes is a horrific ordeal and when u get raped ur emotionaly unstable and cant stand the thought of rape so if she a rape victim how does she get it on with other guys right there after..also why would koby want to rape her, he would get any chick he wants too..


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-02-2004 19:34:

But it does not comedown to what Kobe thought, it's what the girl thought.


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